When to ditch the bottle?

Kayle - posted on 11/13/2010 ( 189 moms have responded )

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My son is 10 months old and I am already working on getting him off the bottle.
He only gets bottles at night and drinks out of a sippy cup during the day.
But I see other kids a year old up to 3 years old still sucking on a bottle.
When my son turns a year old the bottle will be gone.

What is everyone elses opinion on when to ditch the bottle?

Also, please no anti-FF posts.

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Nikki - posted on 11/14/2010

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I started adding a little cow's milk to her formula about 20 mls at a time then gradually increasing, until I found out she is allergic to dairy. I have read it's best to start it in their cereal then add it to the formula, slowly increasing the milk and decreasing the formula.

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Besides the pacifier, is she developing normal? Teeth? Speech? If she's doing well in those areas then I'm curious why you want to break her of it? Perhaps society's idea of normal is making you feel guilty?

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But within the course of a discussion there are twists and turns that take us into a different place than what the original poster said. It's counterproductive to not be in the same spot as everyone else within the discussion/debate.

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I just want to point out a few more things I've learned along the way....

1. Problems can occur and preventative measures need to be taken long BEFORE the teeth ever poke through. Gum care is equally as important to prepare for their teeth. The attitude that some parents have that, "oh well, they're just baby teeth and they fall out" is so WRONG, for lack of a better word. Proper, consistent care with gums and developing teeth can make a world of difference with how our adult teeth come in. Also, teeth are hereditary. My dad (61) and myself (33) have NEVER had a cavity. Unfortunately both my brothers take after my mom and their mouths are riddled with cavities and expensive dental work. Just sayin....

Sometimes it doesn't matter WHAT you do but it's always good to be prepared and take preventative measures. You can always take your child to a dentist early on to have them inspect if you're concerned about it.

2. Pacifiers, and I would assume bottles as well, are not only detrimental to a child's teeth and speech development, but they can effect the way their jaws align causing problems later in life.

3. Recommendations are just that. Recommendations. Guidelines to follow. Like Nikki said, they shouldn't be black and white. God knows children aren't. AND, with any recommendation or guideline, there's an assumption that you'll be practicing or using things properly and responsibly. Of course there are always going to be exceptions.

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Haha! Just for the record, the stroller is permenantly in the back of my SUV, just in case. Whenever Chad is with us, he insists pushing it just so he doesn't have to carry our stuff. LMAO! Sounds like you guys would get along great! ;)

Anyhow, I hope you don't feel like I'm judging?

Rosie - posted on 11/19/2010

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i know sara, i love having a spot to put everything, lol!very convienent, especially at the amusement parks. you can smuggle all sorts of goodies in there, lol!

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We use the stroller for Eliza about twice a month, other than our walks which is 3-4x a week. So we use the stroller a fair amount. Even if she is walking, the stroller holds all our crap!

Rosie - posted on 11/19/2010

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guess what dana, i use mine for lucas too, lol!! GASP!!! :) i use it for when we got to the mall (which is like twice a year, lol) and when we go to get vinnie from school (which is about 5 blocks away), and when we go to amusement parks or places like that (which, once again happens rarely, maybe every other year). i don't know if it's cause he's so little still (roxanne is bigger than he is and he's 3 1/2), but he does get really tired trying to keep up with us. i think both of my older children were about 4 before we stopped using it (they were little peanuts too).

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Again, INTERESTING -- it's NOT commonplace where I live. The only time I would expect to see an older toddler in a stroller is if either parents were walking/jogging etc. I can understand an amusement park etc. also where you'll be doing a ton of walking but not for normal everyday. It's definitely NOT common here!

Bonnie - posted on 11/18/2010

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Yeah i've seen many children around 3-5 years old in a stroller. Honestly, I don't know how you get them to stay in there lol.

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Interesting. The most I've ever brought when we're out at places like that is a lil' umbrella stroller just in case she starts whining.

Just out of curiosity, how often do you go to places that require it?

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I just gave away my stroller to my cousin-in-law cuz I've used it maybe 3 times in the past year and a half (for my now 2.5 year old). Actually, now that I think about it a bit I think the last time I used it for him was when I had to renew my license almost exactly a year ago and needed him contained while I filled out the paperwork and had my pic taken. He walks w/ my mom and his sisters to the store and back just for fun. Sometimes they are gone walking for 2 hours straight. ;) Kid's got WAY better endurance than I've got. ;)

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My daughter will be almost three when the baby comes, and we just bought a double that converts to a sit/stand. Actually my mom bought it as my Christmas gift, but that's beside the point. I don't use a stroller day to day with my daughter. Today we ran about 6 errands, in and out of the car all day, and she did just fine walking. But at the mall, or a fair, or our walks around the neighborhood (which happens 3-4x a week) she uses a stroller. I can't see booting her out for the new baby, so we just got one they can both use. I think she'll really like the sit/stand feature!

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WOW! Sherri, I'm surprised your 4 1/2 year old still uses a stroller? I haven't put Roxanne in a stroller since she was about 18 months.

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The strolller one I really think depends on the situation. I know I get a bit bothered here when its obviously used because the parent doesn't want to waste any time. And that's there prerogative I guess. I just wish people would give their kids the time to do something, but needs must in most situations I guess.

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I guess things differ wherever you go. We were encouraged to walk as soon as we could. Obviously we'd have the buggy to go out in but when we were out we'd be allowed to walk. Personally I think a 3 or 4 year old is fully capable of walking around. Each to their own though and I can see your point of using one in Disney World but here we don't have theme parks as big as that really =]

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I see plenty of 3 or 4 year olds with dummys where I live. Basically what I meant by my comment about when children go to nursery here is that they aren't allowed to be in nappies or have dummys and the people who still allow their children in a buggy at the age of three are the ones who have others gawping at them. I had my own preferences for when we cut the bottle and dummy and everyone else has theres but there comes a time when it has to go. Actually I can remember when I firt met my husband his sister who was 7 or 8 at the time had a dummy, she hadn't had it since she was little, her mam had cut it at 18 months, but she had decided one day randomly to buy one....very odd!

Meghan - posted on 11/17/2010

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My son stopped using it when he was good and ready. I did stress about it but he was using sippy cups primarily by 7 months and was able to drink out of an actual cup by a year. At 13 months it was just before bed and the morning, 15 months just in the morning and 20 months he was done. Clearly he didn't need it for nutritional reasons, it was a comfort object for him.and who am I to tell him he doesn't need something?

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I see way too many 4 year olds with pacifiers and bottles, and I NEVER shop at Walmart. Well, once last Christmas, but anyway. The little girl across the street is 4 and she still runs around with a bottle of formula and if not that, a pacifier. I know she doesn't have special needs, her brother does, and her mom is too busy with him to wean her younger child. Last week, I found her napping in the playhouse in the playground (her mom was there reading a book) sucking on a bottle. I just got a little shiver down my spine.

I get the night-time or nap-time thing, it's really hard to wean them of their little crutches (lucky for me, my daughter's is hand holding-but she'll still have to be cut off at some point). I don't have any brilliant suggestions for that stuff. That's why there are all those books for parents I guess...

Anyway, I do see lots of kids way older than my daughter still carrying around bottles of milk or formula. In the mall, at the play palace, etc. There comes a time...

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Yeah, some kids just like the bottle for some reason. It seems weird to me, but then he still asks for a drink just before going to bed... so maybe that has something to do with it?

Both of my boys used cups (not sippy cups, just plain old tumblers) from age 7 months just as the ped said they would, so it wasn't like they couldn't use anything else.

Seth is also one of those that does things in his own time. It sounds like Syd is a bit the same.

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I disagree, Katherine. You CAN have a goal date for stuff. Just don't be surprised if you get a few more grey hairs when that date comes... and goes. And wrinkles are our friends... aren't they?



The first time around I didn't know that you were "supposed" to get baby off the bottle by 12 months. He'd only just weaned himself off the boob at that age and used the bottle only for sleeps until he was 2. I freaked out when I read some forum that said the magic number had come and gone for us, so I started forcing him to give it up. BIG mistake. He gave it up himself at around 28 months. The bottle only contained water from the time he was 25 months, he just liked it.



Now #2 will be 2 yrs old next month and he still has a bottle too. Who cares what "they" say? Neither of my boys had a dummy. I hate the things and refused to let them have one. They have beautiful teeth, but then brushing twice a day probably has a little to do with that too.



As for the state of their teeth, as in straight or crooked, do you know that that is mostly predetermined BEFORE they even have their first tooth? I was worried about my eldest's lower teeth, because they are a bit crooked (like mine were before braces). Our dentist told me that whatever position they are in now is what the adult ones will be in when they come in, of course.... AND the position of the teeth as well as the likelihood of caries is mostly genetic!



I ate tons of sugar as a kid and have very few cavities. Didn't have my first filling until I was 24! Whereas my husband was a sporty, healthy sort who doesn't care for sweets and has had heaps of filling starting from age 7.



So I wouldn't lose sleep worrying about whether having a bottle at naptime is making baby's teeth crooked or will give them caries (unless the bottle is full of cordial or juice of course). Take precautions, but try to go with the flow. No need to make the poor kid stress if he really wants a bottle for sleeps after age 1.

Katherine - posted on 11/17/2010

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Yes, I have basically told them that.

Actually, you CAN"T have a goal date to get rid of something like that. It isn't very realistic. We're talking about human beings here, not training an animal.

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Katherine, I agree with Dana! Without the profanity. I'm not a potty mouth. But I'm not offended by it...lol...couldn't help mentioning that. 2/5 Love you DMak!

Katherine - posted on 11/17/2010

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She's wicked smart, has perfect teeth, articulate as all get out......it's all the asses around me.

Nikki - posted on 11/17/2010

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Have you tried bribing her Katherine? Find out something that she really wants, discuss the plan and see if she is willing to co operate?

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I have a nephew that would find his fingers in his sleep...it wasn't a daytime issue. Socks taped to his hands would just get soaked...lol.

Katherine - posted on 11/17/2010

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I'm soooo gladyou said that. Sara because my daughter (says in 2pt font) just turned 5 and WILL NOT GIVE UP her night time pacifier. I have tried everything under the sun.

I hid it, told her it broke..... well that doesn't work with the older ones. I threw them all out and she made me go buy her a new one at midnight after screaming for 4 hours.
Now my 20mo and her damn bottle.

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I too have only seen ONE older toddler with a pacifier. She was 3 or 4 and had the thing on a string around her neck. It's obviously not the norm, and most kids will eventually let the bottle/paci go.

Bonnie - posted on 11/17/2010

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Dana, oddly enough I believe Walmart is usually where I see 3 and 4 year old with either a bottle or pacifier.

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Oh, that's not true -- one other time I saw a mom give her screaming toddler (probably 4) a pacifier in the line-up at Walmart. I might not have agreed with it but fuck me, I was glad.

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If Roxanne is using at pacifier still when she's 3 it won't matter to anyone because she only uses it a naptime and bedtime. How would a nursery/preschool know?



You guys (everyone, generally speaking) can't tell me that you OFTEN see an older toddler (3-5) cruisin' around with a pacifier or bottle hanging out of their mouth? Not OFTEN! I know I've only seen it once and the same girl was also probably 5 years old, still in diapers, alternating a bottle and pacifier in her mouth, sitting on her, what I assume to be grandmother's lap? in the waiting room of a doctor's office. OBVIOUSLY there were issues and who am I to judge?

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I think the main thing here in the UK is that age at 3 childrne go to nursery. It isn't compulsory but most children go and they have to be fully potty trained, and can'r have dummys whilst they're there. I think sometimes peoples opinions differ because there's possible a reason why they must be off the dummy or potty trained at a certain time.

Nikki - posted on 11/17/2010

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Just chop it off Kati! His teeth are obviously more important that one finger, he has 9 more. lol

Melanie - posted on 11/17/2010

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My son had a bottle at nap/bed time until he was 2 & continued to use a dummy until he was 3&half..he gave it up when HE was ready..he is now 10 with perfectly straight teeth & only 1 filling
my daughter was breastfed until 19mths, had never had a dummy (i was her comfort for nap/bed so she started having sleeptime bottles at 19mths!) sippy cup rest of the time tho, she gave it up at 3..beautiful straight teeth & she's 5
my baby girl (7mths) has a dummy & bottles & will do so until she is ready to give them up, as soon as she can hold her own bottle i will give her a sippy cup during the day
none of my children have been allowed a bottle in their cot/bed they sit on my lap or lay on their own little kiddy couch to drink their bottle then brush teeth & go to bed, my older 2 still have a drink of milk last thing before bed!
i think bad teeth, jaw & speech issues have more to do with thumb suckers, genes & the individual child than dummies & bottles
i must say tho IMO kids should NOT still be wearing nappies, suck their thumb, have a dummy or drink out of a bottle when they start school (unless they have medical issues)

Rosie - posted on 11/17/2010

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at least you guys can take things away from your children, my 3 year old still sucks his fingers when he's sleepy. he also has to have a blanket, or sock, or dirty underwear, lol, and cuddle with tthat whilst sucking his first 2 fingers on the hand that is cuddling the blanket. i CAN'T take his fingers away.

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LOL yes, wool. Any woollen garment or blanket she will rub it on her face and suck on. I know a kid who does the same thing with muslin cloth. No other cloth, just muslin. Kids are funny aren't they :)

Katherine - posted on 11/17/2010

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WOOL???? I have to say I have never heard of that....

Oh, I'm good, no worries. I feel better now thanks.

Especially since it's ok according to Nikki :)

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LOL I agree Nikki. I'm not truly worried or I would have done something about it. Just musing that's all :)

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It's not a big pet peeve for me, hell I do it myself. Sometimes there are SO MANY posts already, even within a few short hours. But yes, reading the most recent posts would help THOUGH a lot of the time I faff about writing my post and heaps are posted in the mean time. You know what I mean?

And back to the topic... my daughter has never used a dummy. I was adamant she wouldn't use one unless she had colic and screamed the house down. But she totally thwarted me by sucking on anything wool. It started off with her sucking on her clothes and so to stop her from waking in the morning in completely saliva sodden clothes, I gave her a wool blanket. She still uses them to go to sleep. Do you think that could have a similar effect on her teeth as using a dummy? Probably eh? Though because its a fabric is doesn't have a set shape....

Nikki - posted on 11/17/2010

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Katherine don't let it get to you, it's not worth stressing yourself out over, a few years ago it was more that appropriate for a 2 year old to have a bottle, who cares what everyone else thinks it's not important. What matters is that your daughter is happy and healthy.

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I agree with Sara -- there's nothing more frustrating than someone jumping into an already heated debate. It causes confusion and it says, "LAZY"....I know it's equally frustrating to join a debate when there's pages of comments but you have options -- don't comment, read the comments; at least the last page to familiarize yourself with the convo, or make a note when you comment that you haven't read the other comments so no one assumes you're refering to their last post.

This is a debate community -- not a normal community where you can just express your opinion and bugger off. In these types of communities there's an expectation that you're here to debate.

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