Which is superior; to base morality on belief in God (or whatever God you believe in),

♏*PHOENIX*♏ - posted on 02/01/2011 ( 12 moms have responded )

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or independent of him~



~Belief in God is necessary for a workable understanding of morality.

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~Morality can be derived logically from simple observation of the human condition

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Jenny - posted on 02/03/2011

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Morality is a part of our evolution, it is normal and natural. When we fight this, such as living more isolated instead of social lives, we find aberrant behaviours spring up. The things we consider moral/immoral fit perfectly with tribal living: no killing people, no stealing, don't hoard reasources (we're sure getting over that one quick) etc. It will continue to become more pronounced with every generation, we are losing empathy. God really has nothing to do with it but it's followers sure like to stake their claim on it. If it keeps you from raping people, great, but you can be good without god.

Veronica - posted on 02/03/2011

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In my mind, and heart, and in 'my world', persay -- I do believe that belief in God is necessary for a workable understanding of morality. I believe so, because he put forth the law, he puts forth the unconditional love, and he put forth forgiveness, through Jesus. In my belief God is a loving God, and he wants all of us to be with him. Even the worst sinners of sinners -- but who are we to judge that? You say murderers and rapists should go to hell -- maybe the person who cannot forgive them, will go to hell. I read once that we will be surprised at who we see in heaven - that speaks enough volume to me, that its about me and what Im going to do on this earth - not about what others are doing right or wrong.
Anyhow - I think the main thing is respect - i think its the biggest moral of all.

To be a bit conflicting with what I said - I am not saying at all, that if you dont have God in your life, that you cannot have morals or values - we can still be taught this, regardless. So Im not saying that because you are godless, that you are any less important, valuable, or moral than anyone else.

Nadia - posted on 02/03/2011

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I don't think either is superior... I dn't beleive in God, but i follow the 10 commandments. I "do unto others" even though i don't go to church. it's all how a person is raised and the morals/values they learned growing up. I don't agree with serial killers/rapists/child molesters accepting Jesus into their hearts in order to be forgiven so they can go to heaven. you kill someone or hurt someone like that you're going to hell.

Krista - posted on 02/03/2011

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I don't think that either is superior.

However, I do not think that religious belief is necessary for an understanding of morality.

I think that the biggest key to morality is empathy -- to think about how your actions and words might affect other people and to put yourself in their shoes. Christians call it the Golden Rule, but it's definitely a concept that predates and transcends religion, in my opinion.

Sara - posted on 02/03/2011

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I think morality can be derived by observation. I don't believe in God, but I am a member of society, and I respect the social laws and mores of that society...things like not killing, not cheating on my husband, not stealing...I think people can figure all of these things out without a belief in God or a higher power. I don't really think one is better than the other, though I've gotten the impression over the years that many Christians consider their way to be superior to mine...that's not a dig at anyone, just something I've experienced in my life.

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Since I don't believe in God, I'll take door #2. "Morality can be derived logically from simple observation of the human condition "

Edit: And I don't think either way of seeing it is "superior".

Desiree - posted on 02/03/2011

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Each person to his own!! Morality is taught to each of us through the history of our families and how and what they have come through. it eventually become and inbreed thing that we end up doing without thinking. Then every so often something goes horribly wrong and one persons morality is just not imprinted into the brain correctly and thus we get the pshyco and serial killers who have no guilt. But most of us seem to have it and taught the correct way of using it.

Nicole - posted on 02/01/2011

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We either internalize or externalize social rules. I think it's better if we can internalize them

Sal - posted on 02/01/2011

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there are many people of wonderful morals who go to church and have a real faith in god, there are some truly wonderful people with impecable morals who don't and there are some complete arses who go to church and think that is enough, so neither is right or better but one should never assume that going to church and spouting religion equals superior morals

Johnny - posted on 02/01/2011

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I follow the second in my own life. It isn't superior, it just happens to be the one that feels right in my head. As long as you strive to be a good person, it doesn't matter where the urge comes from. I can not understand why anyone would need a god to tell them what is right anymore than they can understand why I don't.

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I believe there is only good in the world because of God since I don't believe there would even BE a world w/out God, but I don't believe you have to believe in God in order to have good morals.

~Jennifer - posted on 02/01/2011

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Neither is superior to the other.
Whatever helps a person simply be a good person is all that matters.

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