would you let your young daugher Pole Dance??

♏*PHOENIX*♏ - posted on 10/21/2010 ( 68 moms have responded )

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So, tThis new show called The Talk…had a Women on who has a class where she teaches Pole dancing for women, well…she now teaches young girls as young as 5years old…and they call it Pole Fitness..

Would you allow your daughter to take classes…why? and if not what do you feel would be the harm... ?

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Charlie - posted on 10/21/2010

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neither does pole aerobics , like i said ive been to a class its sweat pants and baggy T's the moves are generally all gymnastics its not focused on sex its focused on strength and flexibility there's no gyrating , or leg spreading for no real reason unless to execute the move much like the moves in gym that require the same .

Jodi - posted on 10/21/2010

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What happened to skipping ropes and hopscotch? I don't know about anyone else, but my daughter likes those things, and I am ok with that. She's never asked me if she could please have pole dancing fitness lessons.....so whose agenda is it if a child is doing that? I would figure that if your daughter told you she wanted dancing lessons, that wouldn't exactly be the first thing that would pop into your head, right?

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Depends on how the gestures are used with the younger girls.. AIt is a great workout and if done properly it can be great for younger kids as well. Have you seen the acrobats from Cirque du Soleil in Zumaniti? Those women are performing tasteful routines that have nothing to do with stripper pole dancing. If used as a fitness routine without the "sexiness" added to it. no problem in my book

Kate CP - posted on 10/21/2010

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Uhh...no. This would be another classic parenting fail. It's my job to keep my daughter OFF the pole.

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Tah - posted on 10/24/2010

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o and crystal jones..i don't care whatour records is this season...your baby should have on a dallas jersey..i am just saying...don't dress him in the dark..lol

Johnny - posted on 10/24/2010

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I think this thread is the first time my opinion (and those sharing it) has ever been referred to as conservative. LOL.

I'm pretty certain that jazz, ballet, and gymnastics were never specifically designed to get men turned on for money. It's not so much the actual dancing, as the connotations behind it. I can't even imagine what a 5 year old would think if she finds out her mommy is sending her to learn how to dance like strippers. Hmm...

Tah - posted on 10/23/2010

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i told my husband i signed our daughter up for pole dancing classes..."i thnk you should go ahead and get your money back".....i love getting him riled up..it's an addiction...lol..

Chrystal - posted on 10/23/2010

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No I would not allow my daughter to take classes. I would not allow her at 5 years old to take a poll dancing fitness class, b/c poll dancing even though it is excercise, is very sexual. My daughter does not need to look sexual at 5 years old. She can excercise the old fashioned way.

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I think its just one of those things that we will not agree on..i think to myself why cant others just get its not acceptable, whether or not the moves are sexy or not.I was on another thread and a mothers five year old was kicked out of cheer leading.Why.. her mother brought the chant her child was meant to say to the school and said its not appropriate for a child to say..it was like my back hurts, my shirts to tight, my booty shakes from left to right.
What happened was the five year old was kicked out of cheer leading and the found another child to say it.
The mother took it further and went to the news and the whole area which she lives in is in up roar over that..they think its acceptable for five year olds to say it, many wouldnt think it is but many will think it is.What i say is do what you feel is acceptable and decent.I want my children to be children while children..so no pole fitness and no inappropriate dance, dress or chants thanks.Many are with me and many wont get it.

Josia - posted on 10/23/2010

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It is good exercise wise. I used to do the chinese pole when i did circus classes. Similar thing. I had abs and ripped arms it was awesome. Over the age of 18 - yes. But as young as five? hell to the no! 13 or 14? still hell no. When she's 18 she's old enough to make her own decisions. Women are sexualised enough in the media but exposing children who are too young to know any better is morally wrong. Regardless of the fitness benefits.

Ez - posted on 10/23/2010

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I totally agree with Jodi. My concern with this would be why are parents encouraging their kindergartener to pole-dance?? It is not mainstream yet, so it would be very unlikely that a little girl would ask for it. So that means that parents are suggesting it. Who the hell does that? 'Hey sweety, I've been thinking you should really get some more exercise and improve your strength,, what about pole dancing?' Ummm no.



I just think it's a bit pointless, when there are so many other sports that don't have any sexual connotations. A girl I went to school with is a competitive pole-dancer. It's only ever been for sport with her (she is actually a school teacher by day), but it is in lingerie/skimpy costuming. But like Tah said, there are some things kids just shouldn't do. And this is one of them IMO.

Isobel - posted on 10/22/2010

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and yes...my kids are in swimming, taekwondo, basketball, swimming, skiing, you name it...if my daughter came to me and gave me a logical athletic reason to exercise on a poll... who am I to tell her she's wrong?

Tah - posted on 10/22/2010

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you know what..yeah i'm posting again cause this crap gets my goat...there are some things that children shouldn't do, they are not little adults, there psyche is different and we need to encourage them to be children...my daughter doesn't have inner sexy that needs to be unleashed, she has rainbows, kittens and hannah montana on her brain. She gets exercise outside on her bike, karate...camping an hiking with girl scouts, running around, her dance and gymnastic classes and she will be starting again once i can find a schedule that works, so why out them on a pole for that, she doesn't need to pay for college right now..but i guess we can always put some heels and cake makeup on her with a belly shirt also....

Tah - posted on 10/22/2010

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i would also like to say that i am not keen on putting my husband and her father in the hospital or jail....so no...again....

Tah - posted on 10/22/2010

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ballet, jazz, tap, track, basketball, karate, bike riding, gymnastics...what am i missing, when did we start putting our daughters on poles at 5 for exercise...is something wrong with other types of exercise now...she can get on a pole when her husband has one installed...

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I was in hip hop and jazz and ballet, we didn't dress or dance like that. Thats not what you see at dance competitions here. When it comes to exercise, I have a huge yard and a 2 mile bike path that leads to the river. Conservative, yes, especially when it comes to my kids, and besides that if you mention pole and daughter in the same sentence most dads would flip.

Jodi - posted on 10/22/2010

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Personally, I would have more objection to the video Laura posted than the one you posted, Loureen. Maybe we just shouldn't allow our daughters to dance at ALL, because it can all be provocative if we allow it to be!!

Charlie - posted on 10/22/2010

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Its all perception .

I doubt if i jumped on a pole in my tracksuit that anyone would be turned on by it male or female but if you still deem that sexy well your easily pleased LOL..... i joke ....



Its just aerobic dace moves with pole !

Heather - posted on 10/22/2010

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if i had a daughter i would let her do the lessons as well! i agree with ebony its a form of working out! and i would be there with her and watch to make sure it wasnt being sexual! and if they had mommy daughter classes i would take them with her!

Cat - posted on 10/22/2010

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If my child needs to do pole dancing for excercise than there's a bigger problem than just the classes... She could do gymnastics or ballet, as others have mentioned... She can save the pole dancing till people will be able to throw money at her, or, preferably not at all... The thought of my child, or ANY child doing anything on a poll is sick and disturbing, I dont care if its thinly veiled as 'exercise'

Becky - posted on 10/22/2010

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A big fat NO! When she becomes an adult then she can decide what she wants to do.

Jane - posted on 10/22/2010

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LOL....wow...I'm finding that there are so many conservatives out there. I see it as another form of dance/exercise. I've seen pole dance classes and there is nothing at ALL sexual about it. It's a ballet bar only verticle, in my opinion. So yes, I would have let my daughter take a pole dancing class based on what I've seen. She's 20 now so I really don't have a say but she did dance from 4 through 17 and if pole dancing was offered during her dance years, I would have let her do that too.

♏*PHOENIX*♏ - posted on 10/22/2010

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That’s the beauty of OPINIONS Liz ……. Everyone is entitled to one… :0)

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NO WAY!!!! It doesn't matter how tasteful it may be taught I would rather not see my daughter end up on a pole ever. Those pictures you mention are in GQ magazine which a child shouldn't have anyway.

♏*PHOENIX*♏ - posted on 10/22/2010

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Well Nikki, Im glad you asked….

The fear of having your child sexualized to early keeps coming up…and many have a valid point on that matter, but I just feel that when its done tasteful, and not sexual..then why not..

Not to mention that I would be there at the classes to watch and make sure its not sexual…

Im not sure if your familiar with the hit TV show GLEE….well they have taken some racy photos that have become a “Controversy” and I know many grade school, and high school kids watch that show…look it up if you haven’t seen them…

There are so many places where “Sexual subtleties” come into play around the world we live in and on tv..from our children’s friends…ect

And I would let my daughter do this around the ages of 10-14

Jackie - posted on 10/22/2010

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I totally agree with Desiree and Loreen. You don't have to wear pasties on your breasts and hooker heels to do exercises on a pole. It doesn't HAVE to be provocative. Kids that age don't think that way in the first place. It's a great workout, it's fun, and harmless.

It doesn't mean that because she knows how to balance and shift her weight on a pole, that she's going to take her cloths off for money and be degraded by sloppy men. You as a parent still need to teach morals and values and you can DO THAT and let he take exercise classes at the same time!

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First of all, I don't see any reason that a 5 yr old....who should be outside running around or involved in some kind of extra curricular activity / sport would even NEED a fitness class - of any kind.

That being said, IF my daughter wanted to learn 'pole fitness' at a more mature age - I'd be the one to teach her, so I would control exactly what and how she would learn.
Pole is NOT easy, but it does give you some serious core strength.

Rosie - posted on 10/22/2010

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i would let my child do it. she obviously wouldn't be taking her clothes off, or doing provocative moves on it, but it is EXCELLENT exercise, and pretty much the same thing as gymnastics, it's just using a different aparatus. meh, i don't see the big deal. it's not like my child would be taking her clothes off for money, or doing anything even close to that.

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Trying to make things like this acceptable is why our children today are way beyond there years..pole dancing for fitness is only one example why there growing up so fast..its not acceptable and its even more unacceptable that us as parents think its okay for five year old to do it.Thats the biggest crime here not the people who advertise it to children of five, but the parents who hop on the band wagon and go with it.

Desiree - posted on 10/22/2010

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I don't see why not. Its great fun and extremly hard work. it helps to keep the body supple and just because she learns to do it doesn't mean she is going out to try itt for a career. I am not sure about allowing a child as young as five but then again a good many of them are doing gymnastics. So actually its the same thing just with a different kind of apparatus.

I have personally done it myself and never realised I had muscles in places i never used before. And yes you can really work up a storm let no one tell you its easy. Its not but it is good fun if you go with some girl friends and then you can sit and laugh together at how silly you look.;) Hey make no mistake before you all get crazy, no I am no Pole dancer or Stripper never was and don't have the figure for it. The most my body is good for is being mom although Hubby thinks I am the most gorgeous woman in the world (I am overwieght by the by)

Anyway I went with some friends to see what it was all about. And seeing as I belive in giving almost anything a bash once. You would not belive how many woman are using it as a fun way to 1. loose weight and 2. to keep thier men happy. or even surprise them. A very large number of these woman are grossly over weight.

But its nice to be with a group of women who are just having fun... Opps now i have gone off on a tangent and off the course sorry girls. But the answer is yes but not before she is old enough and no I am not sure what old enough means. for me its may be 16 for My husband its 40 before he will let her fly the nest typical and even then he will be carrying the proverbial ShotGun (Feeling sorry for the guy who marries her)...

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I agree 100% with all that Carol said.

I wouldnt allow that personally for my little girls....i think its actually disgusting.I can think of many other ways to keep my girls fit and healthy..cycling, walking, swimming.Those activities do the same thing for health& fitness, i dont see how pole dancing is acceptable to anyone, for a five year old child.

Johnny - posted on 10/21/2010

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I'd prefer to keep my daughter from participating in what is commonly seen as sexually provocative behavior until she has at least gone through puberty. I'm a big believer in the free expression of sexual feelings, even for those we might consider "young" in our society (teenage girls). But I don't believe that really extends to those who are not yet at the point of sexual maturation.

C. - posted on 10/21/2010

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Hmm.. Interesting.. There seems to be several posts missing since the last time I was on..

Jodi - posted on 10/21/2010

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At least Kimberly has edited that post now. I actually originally skimmed over it HOPING I had misread its intention.

Nikki - posted on 10/21/2010

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I can see where your coming from Loureen, but I am really uncomfortable at the thought of little girls jumping on a pole, because of the association with stripping. If there was no such thing as stripping and sexual pole dancing then it would most likely be as acceptable as sports like gymnastics. I think there are better ways for little girls to exercise!

Woah Kim, that was pretty harsh and personal attackish..., Christina; you cop a beating in this group! funny how it's debating but it's still hard to listen to an opposing opinion at times. well done for taking it and still being here! Keeps things interesting doesn't it!

C. - posted on 10/21/2010

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Kimberly, no need to be rude just b/c I didn't think your post was funny. Yeah, I'm all numb and dead inside.. W/e.

Jodi - posted on 10/21/2010

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Oh yeah, the kit's is disgusting. No no need for that. But I still reserve judgement on the dancing. As I said, it bothers me that parents are the ones pushing for it (because little girls aren't the ones asking for it), but not having seen what a children's class would look like, I am not going to say it is tasteless or sexual, etc. It CAN be, but is it?

Kate CP - posted on 10/21/2010

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Okay I visited the link for the toy that was pulled from the shelves and all I can say is...
what.
the.
fuck.

o.O

Charlie - posted on 10/21/2010

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Meh , im just trying to encourage debate , its boring when we all agree haha !

Jodi - posted on 10/21/2010

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I just don't think there is a need for it. But having never seen a child's pole dancing class, I will reserve my opinion.......

Charlie - posted on 10/21/2010

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Well yeah they might as well because its pretty much the same , that's my point .

But hey some people like soccer others like football .

Jodi - posted on 10/21/2010

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I think the only thing that would bother me is that it is the parents generally making the decision about it, not the child. I don't know any little girls who would ask to please learn pole dancing. Dancing, yes. Gymnastics, yes. Any number of other sports, yes, but I honestly just don't know which little girls are demanding pole dancing classes. It is coming from the demands of parents. THAT is more what bothers me about it.

C. - posted on 10/21/2010

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Loureen, if it's so much like gymnastics, then why is it even a class? They might as well take up gymnastics then.

Bonnie - posted on 10/21/2010

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I don't have a daughter, but if I did/would have one down the road my answer would be....HELL NO! I'm sorry, but there are other workouts that little girls can do. I would be paranoid that this could lead her in the wrong direction later in life!

Charlie - posted on 10/21/2010

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for the sake of debate ..........little girls wearing leotards do the very same maneuvers on a balance beam in gymnastics the only difference is its horizontal so whats the difference ?

C. - posted on 10/21/2010

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I really don't see how any of that is funny, Kimberly. LITTLE GIRLS shouldn't even know what that kind of stuff is. What happened to girls that young playing with Barbie dolls, baby dolls, going outside to run around?? Ok, maybe not baby/Barbie dolls at that age..

But they shouldn't know what pole dancing is. They shouldn't know what padded bras are. And they CERTAINLY should not know how to unleash their inner sex kitten at that age ("Unleash the sex kitten inside…simply extend the Peekaboo pole inside the tube, slip on the sexy tunes and away you go! “Soon you’ll be flaunting it to the world and earning a fortune in Peekaboo Dance Dollars").. People anymore are just idiots coming up with this crap for KIDS.

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