Wrong twin aborted in Australia

Merry - posted on 02/08/2012 ( 20 moms have responded )

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I’ve written before about the horrible practice of “toin coss” abortions, where one healthy twin is aborted because (for whatever unacceptable reason) the mother does not want to have two babies born.



In a shocking story from Australia, a healthy 32-week twin was “accidentally” aborted when doctors mistakenly killed the healthy twin when they were attempting to abort the sick twin, as the Australian Herald Sun paper reports:



A Victorian mother, pregnant with twin boys she had already named, had made the agonising decision to abort one of the babies on doctors’ advice.



She had been told that one twin had a congenital heart defect that would require years of operations, if he survived at all.



An ultrasound clinician had checked the healthy baby, who was in a separate sac to the sick baby, before the termination.



But just after 2.30pm on Tuesday the wrong baby was injected, terminating the healthy pregnancy.



The mother then had an emergency caesarean section and the sick child was terminated in a three-hour operation.



The hospital has announced there will be an “investigation” into what went wrong. But obviously what went wrong is that doctors suggested to the mother that she abort one of her twins. The hospital in a statement called the mistake a “terrible tragedy” but how would they have described the outcome if the doctors had made the right choice about which child to abort? Would that be a “resounding success”?!



Steven Ertelt at LifeNews notes that this case in Australia is not the first example of this happening:



Officials in Italy, in 2007, investigated a botched abortion done on twin brothers where the healthy brother became the victim of the abortion and the twin, who has Down syndrome, lived. The disabled brother was the target of the abortion procedure and the case is raising the ugly specter of abortions done to kill disabled people. The abortion was done on a 38-year-old woman in Milan.







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Many babies born with serious heart defects die. Not everything is fixable. A friend of mine just buried her 5 month old son, who died of a heart defect. The defect was discovered during pregnancy and she was advised to terminate the pregnancy due to its severity. She and her husband chose not to based on the exact logic cited here ("many babies with heart defects survive"). The doctors did everything they could and the baby died anyway. Not to mention mom (and the baby's siblings, 4, 3, and 2) went through 5 months of crisis after crisis with a baby that never had a chance anyway. I wouldn't judge a mother for sparing herself and the rest of her family the pain of that situation.

Jodi - posted on 02/08/2012

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It is not my place to judge this woman. Lord knows, it wasn't an easy decision to make, I highly doubt she woke up one morning and said "Hey, that doctors right, I should abort this baby! Yippee!" And now, well, now she lost two babies.



I have no idea what I would have done, I'd like to imagine I wouldn't have an abortion, but I don't know that. Abortion is an option for me in cases where a baby is terminally or gravely ill. You could place the baby up for adoption I suppose, but even babies with downs syndrome, as in the second case, can be hard if not impossible to place.



The hospital made the terrible, horrible, aweful mistake. The mother, did what she thought was best for everyone.

Aleks - posted on 02/15/2012

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This actual story happened in my home town. What is worse it happened in one of THE biggest birthing hospitals in this state. So you could say they were THE experts.



As for medicals, they are covered (unless treatments needed are not performed in this country - though most are).



This story disgusts me for so many reasons. I have seen and heard so many stories that for me there is only this:

While there is life, there's hope.



That is all that I will say.

Jodi - posted on 02/08/2012

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But here's how I see it, we dont' have to imagine how she, or anyone could do it. We can only imagine how we would handle the situation, we can only KNOW how we would handle the situation if we had to go through it.



I know someone who works in a clinic, and I was told that the MAJORITY of women who get abortions, claim that other people have an abortion is wrong, but THEIR reason is justifiable. Just saying.



I'm sure she was scared, not just about her sick baby, but how having a sick baby would impact her other baby's life, the level of care she could give to her other baby and any other children she may or may not have had at that time. I'm sure she was scared of scary, high medical costs that could easily bankrupt a person, or the undeniable stress it would put on her marriage (if she was married). Now don't get me wrong, I don't think abortion is the route, but it's not my place to tell someone what they should or should not do with their body. Late term abortions bother me more than any other, but obviously the doctors thought the baby wasn't likely to survive.



She didn't name those babies going "Boy, I can't wait until I get to kill off Patrick!" She named those babies dreaming of the day she would bring BOTH of them home. I think it's easy ti villanize a mother who chooses to abort her baby, but I think she must have done what she thought was best for her, her children and all those involved.

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So sad for all who were involed.Its truly heartbreaking.Two lives lost so young, a family in despair and doctors who must feel just beyond awful.

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Jodi -- it was sad -- he was just so weak (every breath was like running a marathon) and he was so drugged up all the time that smiling wasn't even something he could manage.



For some statistics: Congenital heart defects (conditions present at birth that can affect the structure of a baby’s heart and the way it works) are a major cause of infant death (that is, a death during the first year of life). A recent Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) study found that congenital heart defects were the main cause of death for 27,960 individuals residing in the United States from 1999 through 2006. Nearly half of these deaths occurred during infancy (younger than 1 year of age).



Supposedly, CHD are the leading cause of death for kids less than one year, greater than all forms of cancer combined. So to just shrug off the diagnosis with a, "well, many kids survive" really rubs me the wrong way, particular since I've know two families in the last year that last infants at 5 months old to CHD (both little boys -- Lincoln and Dominic). Both boys had surgery as temporary fixes but the doctors can't fix everything.

Stifler's - posted on 02/08/2012

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This isn't her fault it's the doctors who screwed it up and killed the wrong baby. I don't know what I would have done.

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I should also mention that that baby endured nothing but pain his entire (albeit short) life and never once smiled.

Jodi - posted on 02/08/2012

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Oh, as for doctors, I can't imagine she didn't do a little research herself. I'm sure this was discussed extensively. So, the doctor told her what *they* thought was best also.

Jodi - posted on 02/08/2012

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Meme, I agree with you, I think! lol I myself, I don't think I would do it, I don't know that, but I like to think I would choose to give it a try. BUT, I most definately do not agree with the sentiment of "What doesn't kill us only makes us stronger." For some people, what doesn't kill them, crushes them, destroys them, leaves them far worse off than before. Not that that really matters I guess, I just don't like seeing it used as an argument for or against something. Some people can't handle the load they're given, if that were true in all cases, suicide would not be a word, it would not be an act, it simply would not be.



I guess all I'm saying, I don't like the idea of abortion, but she did what she thought was best, and that's all we can ask of anybody, to do the best they can with what they have at that time. I'm sure, being hindsight is 20/20, if she could go back and do it differently, she would. I feel really sorry for her, she had the worst decision a mother can be faced with to make, and she lost TWO babies.

Kelina - posted on 02/08/2012

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I don't know her situation but there are several situations in which I might be able to understand her decision. 1) I don't know what health care is like where she lives. Is it paid for? or will she wind up with millions in medical bills making it impossible for her to support herself and her other child and give them a decent quality of life? 2) if the sick baby was going to die, and if he died would kill the other as well. I know that if I had a sick child I would want to be with them all the time. That would take me away from my other kids. But being away from my sick child would make me feel like the most horrible parent on the planet. Either way, I think I'd go through with the pregnancy because here our health care is paid for by the government. It would still win up costing a fortune in travel fees and stuff like that, but I think I'd probably get a lot of support in that. However, like I said, I don't know what here situation is.

MeMe - Raises Her Hand (-_-) (Mommy Of A Toddler And Teen) - posted on 02/08/2012

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Yes, I agree she probably did but only by going by the doctors advice. All I am saying is doctors can be and have been wrong. When it comes to a baby, I lean - now with my experience - towards the wrong side of things.



You're right I am not her and she is not me. All I can view my opinion on is my experience and I know how it all went. I know it is something I tossed about for a brief second - I had to think about how I would be able to still give my 12 year old (at the time) the same care if my son did have DS. How would I still work within my hectic career? Would we be able to afford it? What would it do to my marriage? Many Many thoughts, but like I said, very brief thoughts.... For me, it was a no brainer. Life sometimes give us terrible hardships that we must get through, what doesn't kill us only makes us stronger, IMO. Everything happens for a reason, even if we don't know the reason at the time or never do get to know it. We're talking about an almost full term baby, it's not like she was in the earliness of pregnacy a baby has a heartbeat at 22 days (why didn't they catch this earlier?), this baby could've been born before 32 weeks where they were twins, then what....

MeMe - Raises Her Hand (-_-) (Mommy Of A Toddler And Teen) - posted on 02/08/2012

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I was told my boy had a 75% chance of DS. They wanted me to do further invasive testing, that could (slim chance) have killed him. No way. If he was going to have DS then so be it (even if it had been a heart deffect). My boy was fine, perfect and healthy. If they can make a mistake with aborting the incorrect baby, they can definitely make a mistake on whether the child actually has a sickness.. They were 75% WRONG with my son... I would never be aborting, I can put myself in their shoes and it was an easy decision for me. That is my baby, I carried mine for 22 weeks (I was told at 16 weeks and went back to give my decision at 22weeks) when they wanted an answer and it was NO WAY in HELL! I could never have said "Yes, abort" after carrying for 22 weeks, nevermind 32 weeks. My god, forget it...

Merry - posted on 02/08/2012

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I just can't imagine how she could do it.

The babies were named?!?!?!

I mean how can you lay there on the hospital bed and know they're injecting poison into 'Patrick' to stop his heart?

I can't comprehend the thought.

No way could I even consider considering this.

MeMe - Raises Her Hand (-_-) (Mommy Of A Toddler And Teen) - posted on 02/08/2012

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I think it's nuts and a very poor and unethical thing to do. If the sick baby had a heart problem, so be it. It is what it is and I would be continuing my pregnancy. It just goes to show that mistakes can happen and this was a huge mistake! If the sick baby was born and died after birth well that was how it was suppose to be. Of course it would be saddening and forever imprinted on my soul but christ, I could live with that a hell of alot easier than living with this outcome. Absolutely insane, if you ask me. Makes me sick, really. Many children live that are born with heart deffects and live productive lives. Same goes for the boy twins, a child with DS can live a healthy productive life. I wonder about some parents, I mean, was it just the easy way out for them? They wouldn't have to fight like hell for their sick child and go through the hardships? Uncalled for, both babies should have been left alone and the end story may have been wonderful. It may not have but at least no one would be responsible for it...

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