Still Nursing?

Colleen - posted on 01/01/2010 ( 68 moms have responded )

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Hello! I was wondering if any June 08 moms are still nursing. I keep hoping that my son will slowly lose interest in it, but that doesn't seem to be happening. I don't mind it, but I also don't want to continue much past 2 years. Any suggestions of slowing weaning without it being traumatic for the little guy?

Thanks!

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Erica - posted on 01/06/2010

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I'm still nursing. :) Ryan generally only nurses once or twice a day now though unless he's not feeling good or is otherwise having a bad day. I am hoping that we'll make it until he's two years old, but I definitely plan on continuing to offer throughout the rest of the flu/cold season (until about April or so). I can't get over how much quickly he gets better compared to other toddlers when sick.

Aside from that, the gentlest way to wean gradually is to do the "Don't offer, don't refuse" thing. Don't actually offer the breast for anything, not for comfort, not when you know it's bedtime, nothing. BUT if she asks for it in any way, then go ahead and let her nurse.

Cassaundra - posted on 01/08/2010

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I am still nursing and have no plans to stop anytime soon. I am pregnant with my fifth child and plan to nurse my fourth right through pregnancy and tandem nurse both children after the birth of number five. Contrary to what you hear full-term nursing will never harm a child. Also, breastmilk continues to be VERY important as long as you are nursing. You need to give nothing but breastmilk till 6 mths because anything else is damaging to your child's immune and digestive system. But that doesn't mean that all of a sudden after 6 mths breastmilk is no good! In fact, at two yrs old, a toddler can be receiving 30% of their nutrition from breastmilk. The benefits of breastmilk are directly related to how long you nurse, the longer you nurse the better. the WHO says that no child should be weaned before age two so if you stop before then it is considered premature weaning. Children will always self-wean when they are ready. It's just that Mom may be ready before babe. So, if you've nursed till age two and you wish to wean, the don't offer don't refuse method is best, Any forced weaning can be traumatic to the child. Incidentally, so can the "sleep training" pushed by an earlier respondent. Forcing a child to "Cry-it out" actually causes permanent mental and emotional damage to a child. Is it worth doing that to get better sleep? Co-sleeping allows a child to have their nightime parenting needs, including the need to nurse, met with the least amount of disturbance to parents. co-sleeping is also proven to protect against crib death. In Japan, where co-sleeping is the norm, S.I.D.S. is so rare and unheard of that they don't even have a name for it. It's only in North America that we push early independence. everywhere else children have their dependence needs met and guess what, there is NO terrible twos! So continue nursing till age two and then after that, simply stop offering unless LO asks. The child will wean themself when it's right.

Kerri - posted on 01/08/2010

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I am still nursing my son. He mostly gets it at nap times and bed time and throughout the night. I have thought about trying to night wean him in hopes that he sleeps better through the night, but am not in a huge rush. Dr Jay gordon has a good article on how to night wean without any trauma to your baby, I think if I decide to night wean him I will try that. But if you want to breastfeed until the baby is ready to stop on his own, go for it. You will not be teaching the baby that he is in control of everything and they will not have issues if you let them breastfeed later, that's silly. There are many benifits to extended breastfeeding. But in the long run it's all up to you and what you are comfortable doing.

Erica - posted on 01/06/2010

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QUOTING LISA: My son weaned at 13 months - my typical goal is once they can have whole milk, I wean them primarily because they also need the vitamin D. I found with both of my boys that they are only bothered for a couple of days and then they are better. The trauma was more on my part than theirs - they were ok.

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Just to let you know that this is a myth. The vitamin D in milk is only minimally absorbed in the body. Not only does your breastmilk contain vitamin D that is much more completely absorbed, it only takes 15 minutes outside during the day to reach your daily quota of vitamin D.

Nothing gives you vitamin D better than the sunlight. There is absolutely no need to wean to whole milk because of vitamin D.

Dalite - posted on 01/06/2010

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My son is still nursing pretty regularly. I also have those days when I can't wait for it to be over, but I try to remind myself 'this too shall pass', and then I get a bit sad because it is such a lovely bonding time that we share. It is important to remember that nursing is not only nourishment but love and attention, it is immunity and health, and helps to create a confident child. There are many studies showing that it also helps with IQ levels. I recommend Mothering.com for resources. I have heard it is actually great to nurse beyond two to help with the 'terrible two's', some moms say it is the only way to soothe a temper tantrum. Think of the benefits and make sure they out-way your reasons to stop. And why do you want to stop at two?

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ROSE - posted on 02/04/2010

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try giving table food and cows milkif the doctor said it is okay it will take awhile but you will find some they other than breastmilk good luck

ROSE - posted on 02/04/2010

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try to give table food and cows milk my stop nurseing after they had table food .it might take awhile until you find something they like dont give up

Leia - posted on 02/04/2010

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I still breastfeed my son and plan to continue until he is ready to stop...I believe that it is just as important now as it was when they were infants; the needs change but those magical nanas nourish, body and soul. I recommend finding your local Attachment Parenting group (meetup.com is a great resource!) and attending some meetings or meetups (through meetup.com)- you'll meet lots of other breastfeeding families (in case this is rare in your area) and can talk about compassionate, appropiate weaning options.

ROSE - posted on 01/29/2010

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HI MY NAME IS ROSE I ALSO NURSED MY TWO KIDS AND THEY BOTH STOPPED NURSEING AT A YEAR OLD I JUST GAVE THEM SOME TABLE FOOD THEY COULD EAT THEY LOVED IT SO I CONTINUED TO FEED THEN FOOD IF THEY ARE AT LEAST A YEAR OLD THEY COULD HAVE MILK BUT ASK A DOCTOR FIRST .

Danielle - posted on 01/28/2010

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IT WILL BE HARD!!! I QUIT WHEN MY DAUGHTER TURNED 1 AND SHE STILL WANTS TO PLAY WITH MY BOOBS AND NIPPLES ALL THE TIME ! THAT IS HOW SHE BONDED WITH ME SO I UNDERSTAND. U JUST HAVE TO DO IT LESS & LESS THEN NOT AT ALL. I WOULD SAY CUT IT IN HALF ABOUT EVERY DAY AND THAT WAY IT WONT BE SO TRAUMATIC ! AND ALSO DONT GIVE INTO TEMPTATION WHEN UR TEMPTED TO NURSE AFTER U'VE ALREADY STOPPED

Corie - posted on 01/23/2010

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I'm still nursing my daughter, too! I hope she continues until she's 2... I'm not even going to think about weaning. I don't care what people think. I'll never get this time back with her and I'm going to enjoy every moment of cuddle time she'll give me between running around!

Melissa - posted on 01/21/2010

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I nursed my first child until he was about 17-18 months. I had to stop as I got Glandular Fever of all things!! I was wanting to stop anyway, and had him down to just a night feed. With having glandular fever I couldn't even lift him as I was so shattered. My body must then have stopped producing any milk and it was straight onto a bottle and he never looked back.
With my 2nd son he lost interest himself at 6 months old, but I would have loved to have kept going for longer.
I suppose you could just keep on nursing every other day, he may lose interest and may prefer the indepence of having a bottle and settling down himself.

Lindsey - posted on 01/20/2010

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when you feel ready to wean, i would definitely cut out one feeding at a time, saving the morning and night feedings for last. i weaned my daughter at 9 mos ( i became pregnant again) and she shortly after began eating solid foods (by ten months) so she didn't notice much difference at all.

Liliana - posted on 01/20/2010

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I slowly weaned my son (June'08) at 15 months. He was becoming more and more distracted and too active when nursing. My middle child (April'04) nursed til well past his 2nd birthday; but he seemed to need that cuddle time more, but one thing I can say is middle-of-the-night nursing at this age is unnecessary. Routine for us was warm milk in a sippy cup, teeth brushing, and book before bed. If he awoke to nurse afterwards I only offered water. He eventually stopped waking to nurse in the wee hours because he was not getting breast. My soon-to-be 19 month old will still look for my breast and even try to attach, but he is clearly done and this is more of a comforting or playful thing. Nursing is wonderful and I sometimes miss it. On the other hand, when they are done, you belong to yourself again.

Sarah - posted on 01/20/2010

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My 19 month has wanted to start nursing more than the 2xs a day we have been doing for awhile. with a 3 yr old i just dont have the time but i plan on nursing him until he is almost 2. start pulling down the # of times you nurse him and start slowly so week 1 go down one less nursing and just continue. maybe offer a sippy cup of milk or something to replace when you would normally nurse and keep going. I think boys just like to nurse longer so do not feel bad. Good Luck S.R

User - posted on 01/20/2010

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Well, we had twins, so I was only able to nurse for 4 months, but I have 6 kids all together and I would say YOU are the Mom, YOU decide when is the right time. Sounds like you know it's time, but it's too difficult to deal with the whining, so you continue. Well, dear, there will be much more whining all throughout your baby's life if you don't establish who's the boss. Baby will nurse until he's 5 if you let him make the decision. It's warm Mommy time, who could blame him? My advice - if you feel like it's time, go away for the day, have daddy or someone else feed him a bottle or sippy cup. Daddy might appreciate your effort and help out. Good luck to you, Mother!

Iris - posted on 01/20/2010

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hi colleen. my son , also born jne 08, is also still nursing a lot. honestly its very difficult to wean at that stage, bec they are too smart and understand everything.
my first son i started slowly kind of weaning him with 2yrs by telling him one boop doesnt work anymore, than he got my milk only for sleeping and so on.
by 2,5 yrs he was done.
i kmow its not easy, but belive me its good for the kids. he was rarly sick. only after i stopped nursing he was sick constantly
warm regards
iris

Kimberley - posted on 01/19/2010

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Me too! My June 08 daughter still nurses mainly before nap/bedtimes, and I don't mind, either. I keep talking about her "being a big girl" and that big girls don't need to do that anymore....I also try and distract her with juice or milk instead, but that doesn't always work. Everything I've read, and friends who chime in tell me that she'll soon give it up naturally and without too much trouble. I had her nearly weaned before the holidays, but we both got sick and she needed the comfort, as well as the natural benefits nursing offered, and my Dr. said it was still the best thing for her. My suggestion is to let the weaning happen naturally - with both of you on the same page, so to speak, he'll give it up soon (meaning, try and offer distractions...talk about giving it up with the "currency" he values). Since I'm in the same boat as you, I'd love to hear your progress! Good luck!

Anthanique - posted on 01/19/2010

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Yes i still Nurse, It is exhausting as she is very demanding and almost obsessed, but my gran says this is normal, I also suggest if you can, just carry on untill she/ he is ready to stop.
P.S. My gran nursed my mother till she went to school, although I must admit, I doubt i will have the courage and patience to do so

Mia - posted on 01/18/2010

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I am still nursing as well!!! Take him to grandma's on the weekends and let him have a blast for a day without breast milk if possible? Have a bottle of warm juice or milk ready for him in the mornings? I don't know that's my plan.

Susan - posted on 01/18/2010

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We only nurse at night right before she goes to bed and first thing in the morning when she wakes, so twice a day for us is fine. She gets sippy cups of whole milk three or four times a day as well during the day, so I know she's getting her vitamin D. There's no medical reason to wean a child that is healthy and still nursing (as long as mommy is healthy too), so we're just going to let her self-wean whenever that happens. They grow up too fast already, I wouldn't want to take this away any earlier than it has to happen. But everyone is different and you have to figure out what works for you. But exchanging sippy cups of milk for feedings, one feeding at a time, seems to work for a lot of women.

Diana - posted on 01/18/2010

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Hi. I am still nursing and she now demands it. She wakes up any time of the night, gets her share and shes back to sleep. Continue doing likewise to your son and the best is until past years. Thanks

Nitha - posted on 01/17/2010

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oh tell me about it!! am still nursing as well!! My little one is so smart, as i have always told him that he only gets milk when he is going to sleep, so he will always drama he is sleepy n needs ,milk!! :P

Tonya - posted on 01/16/2010

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I believe it is most important to educate yourself before you let others judge and decide for you. Check out websites and organizations, and blogs, like on here. It is very encouraging to see so many nursing at this age because it is so good for them...even after 6mos!!!!!!! And telling you child, your still baby, they r a 'big boy/girl" so they "need to stop" is just confusing. For 18 mos you let them look to you/nursing for nourishment and compfort, and now all of the sudden it's "wrong" or will have a bad effect on them...I don't think soooo! Do what u feel is right and make sure u do it for the right reasons!! :-)

Tonya - posted on 01/16/2010

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Who is "they"?????? Do you have an actual source that the info is coming from?

Tonya - posted on 01/16/2010

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Jenni Gall- I was just wondering if u had also nursed your other three children, and when did they wean themselves?

Marlee - posted on 01/16/2010

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i'm still nursing my almost 19-month old daughter and will continue until she weans herself or the age of 3, whichever happens first... she nurses constantly during the day for a few minutes here or there and would be devastated if i cut back... i wish she would sleep through the night more, but my 7-year old didn't until he quit nursing at 27 months... she is my last child, so i want to enjoy this breastfeeding bond as long as possible...

Serene - posted on 01/16/2010

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wow i weaned my son when he was 9 months old. He had a mouth full of teeth and he loved to bite. Now he is a healthy guy and he gets cuddle time with mommy all of the time. Even though i'm not nursing we still have that special bond.

Heidi - posted on 01/15/2010

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Still pumping. Plan to stop @ two years or when I run out - whichever is sooner.

Liz - posted on 01/14/2010

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We're still nursing - 10 minutes each side in the morning and 13 minutes each side at night (just cut down from 15 minutes each side). She doesn't get any other breastfeeds at all. We just seemed to naturally wean down to this so I'm confident over time she will wean herself although I hope it's not too much past two as we will be TTC number 2 around then and I don't think it would be very comfortable for me to feed with sensitive pregnant boobs. World Health Organisation recommends you breastfeed up to two and beyond.

Melanie - posted on 01/12/2010

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Still nursing my 18 month old daughter. She was down to once a day, at bedtime, but lately has been asking to nurse in the morning & sometimes at naptime again. Mostly I just try to distract her or offer her water or whole milk because I'm ready to continue weaning her. I'm in no hurry though so we just take it day by day. Good luck.

Yvonne - posted on 01/12/2010

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We're still nursing, no plans to stop. I decided to just let her decide when she's done since it's so healthy for her. So glad that when she's sick and won't eat she can nurse.

Carol - posted on 01/12/2010

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I too am still nursing my June 08 baby. Things were going well but recently he has started waking up at night and won't go back to sleep without his fix so I think it's time to wean him off. It has helped so much to hear that so many of you are in the same situation and I think I'll follow the lead of so many of you that are going to wait a bit until there is less risk of colds and flu. After that, I plan to explain what's happening to him and then let Daddy get up in the middle of the night to get him back to sleep (after 18 months of "I don't have breasts" it's about time!!)

I am worried that it'll be a hard time but we went through the dreaded sleep training and it only took two nights of listening to him crying for an hour for him to understand that it's better just to go to sleep so I'm pretty optimistic.

Good luck to all of you and keep us posted.

Tara - posted on 01/11/2010

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We are still nursing. This is number 2. We were at one point down to once per day. It was a matter of dropping a nursing for several days and replacing it with a new routine. I try to drop more than one feeding a week. Good luck!

Shelley - posted on 01/11/2010

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I am still nursing. I pump 2-3 oz in the morning before I go to work. My husabnd adds 3-4 oz of goat milk for my son's morning bottle. I work all day & he usually only asks to nurse once in the evening. My supply has dramatically decreased because of this and he has started getting frustrated during his evening nursing because he's not getting much. I'm just letting it happen naturally. I am currently 13 weeks pregnant and don't plan on nursing through the whole pregnancy. Before long I'll probably lose my morning supply and just substitue goat milk completely for his morning bottle. He'll eventually stop asking to nurse in the evening when he knows he's not going to get anything.

Angelica - posted on 01/11/2010

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My son was born June 1st of 2008 and he's still breastfeeding almost every hour. I was hoping he'd wean himself but it's doesn't seem like that's going to happen any time soon. Although I am thankful that he's beginning to sleep 3 to 4 hours without waking up at night.

Julianna - posted on 01/11/2010

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Mine is a June 08 baby too. My daughter weaned herself at 11 months but was a strong solids eater. My son only breastfeeds in the night, and I'm able to feed for a few mins on each side then give a bottle. He is a very sensitive night baby and wakes up often with EACH tooth that starts coming in so at times he's up a lot at night but for the most part sleeps from 8-9 until at least 4-5 am wakes feeds briefly then a small bottle and back to sleep. I hope to wean him soon but am in no rush by forcing him. My hubby and I have planned our first trip without the kids (2 nights) in March....Hudson will be almost 21 months, so maybe that will be a wean?! Hopefully. He does fine when he's with my hubby or my mom but he sees me and he only wants me at night. So we'll see.

Lindsay - posted on 01/11/2010

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My son still gets nursies at night before bed. He doesn't usually nurse at all during the day, since I'm at work anyway. On weekends, if he is not feeling well, I don't mind nursing him as it is good for him but it is also comforting. Some nights, I wish I didn't feel that I have to nurse him, but I remind myself that I can take fifteen minutes to help him relax and feel connected with me again. He is very secure (and lucky me!) sleeps through the night, in his own bed....now, if I can get my 3 year old outta my bed I'll be happy!

Laura - posted on 01/11/2010

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I recently weaned my boy. He was mad for the breast, and was still feeding 7 times a day at 14 months old. I cut out feeds one at a time. Replaced them with healthy snacks, or going out to distract him seemed to help too. In the morning, instead of lying in bed to feed him, it meant that I had to get up early and give him breakfast straight away. I kept the last nightly feed until a month ago. He sorely missed that one, but I tried to change story/feed time in our bed, to story time in his room, and gave him some warm cow's milk. Now not even a month on, he is totally disinterested in feeding. Bit sad, but it was the right time for us too. All the best!

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My june 08 baby girl is still nursing as well...Im hoping she will just wean herself but I dont see that happening anytime soon lol...so for now I enjoy it :)

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Wow, I am actually surprised that there are more ppl in my situation. My son was born in jUne 08 too and he will not stop nursing. A part of me wants to stop because he has become demanding, he wants it more in the day and still doesn't sleep at night but then I know that it comforts him and I don't know if I want to hassle with fighting him to stop. He even tugs at my shirt until I let him feed. I think it would be easier to get him to stop if I wasn't at home full-time. Sometimes he won't eat food and will just push for nursing and will fight until he gets it. I have heard that it's harder the older they get to get them to stop and a lot of ppl talk about weining but what happens if they don't? I am in the same boat!

Cassandra - posted on 01/08/2010

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Hi, I am also nursing my little girl who now say "More Titty" then climbs up and lifts my top. A bit embarrassing in some situations, but hey, no real problem there either. This is my 3rd, Ella, my eldest fed til 16 months, my son only did 6 months and Scarlett will get it anytime she can! My suggestion is to cut one feed (maybe lunch time) and keep the morning & night time. See how you go and enjoy your son.

Angela - posted on 01/08/2010

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i weaned at 16months, i cut her feeding in half, like if i was feeding her 10minutes on each breast cut it down to 5. then the next week i would cut a feeding out altogether. i was only feeding her when she took naps and went to bed. the i got rid of the 1stnap feeding and so on.

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We are still nursing. I plan to continue and let my child wean himself. Most moms in the US only nurse 6 months or less if at all but the average age in the world is 5-6 years. I don't really have any weaning advice other than don't ask don't offer and try to offer solids before breastmilk. Good luck. May I ask why you have chosen 2 years of age to wean?

Mamie - posted on 01/07/2010

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I nursed my son until he was a little over 2 (mainly because of a formula allergy since we all know what it's like when they get teeth!) ... I gradually introduced my milk in bottles given by daddy & made myself unavailable (shower, store, etc.) so he would have to take it until we got down to the bedtime feeding then after about 2-3 months he weaned himself. I hope this helps! Good luck!

Myrtis - posted on 01/07/2010

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I nursed all three of my kids, and they never cried when they were weaned, but that was because all the groundwork was done before.



I just weaned my baby son at 18 months. Of my three sons he lasted the longest. My first weaned himself at 11 months and my second at 7 months. I found it very enjoyable to nurse and was sad when the first two weaned themselves, with my 18 month old though, I felt ready and he was ready. I was sad only for the first day when I realised that he was all grown up (he's my baby so it's harder).



My advice is to try introducing fluids in a cup first and establishing a routine that way. I always offered the cup first, and never put my breast milk in it. I found it easier if they didn't associate me with a cup at all, so you could use water, or watered down juice, or formula, or milk, or soymilk or whatever, just not your milk.



I also never nursed apart from meals and bedtime so it was easier in terms of sleep and night time we already had a routine to fall back on that did not involve falling asleep on my breast (we read a story together and sing songs). I think if you set up a routine that does NOT involve nursing before you wean it will be easier. Also, do not wean if you are still demand feeding at this point, it's too cruel, set up a routine and some boundaries first.



Also, I recommend a lot of extra snuggle time for both of you when you do wean, you will probably miss the close physical bond and the baby certainly will so you gotta make sure you give that baby some extra loving when you wean.



But, it's perfectly OK not to wean at this point, the WHO recommends breastfeeding until age two so you're really doing a great thing for your child if you keep nursing. Many mothers nurse until their children go to school and this works for them (though it never would have worked for me). I think the only advantage of weaning earlier is if the timing is good and your child isn't too opinionated yet.



Well good luck, it will all turn out fine, just gotta hang in there. :)

Stephanie - posted on 01/07/2010

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I am still nursing my daughter and at times she can be very demanding. When Im home and sitting on the coach for a couple minutes she comes right over and wants to nurse. I love nursing her and I know its good for her but at times I would really like to just sit. She still wakes up during the night to nurse and I would really like for that to stop. My husband does not want me to nurse more than two years but I told him that she will stop when she's ready. Good Luck and if you hear of any good tips on minimizing how often he nurses please pass them along. Have an Amazing Day!

Kerensa - posted on 01/07/2010

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No suggestions! Same thing is going on with my son and I. If he's still nursing when his 2nd birthday comes, I am just going to stop!!!!!!

Traci - posted on 01/07/2010

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I am still nursing at night, early morning, and weekends (during the day if she wants to). I am working full-time and really enjoy this time we have together. She is baby #4 and the last one. If she is still nursing after 2, I will probably slowly try to wean her off, but for now, I don't see any problem. I think kids will do it when they are ready. My oldest stopped at 25 months, my other two were 6 and 10 months. They all stopped on their own when they were ready.

Jennifer - posted on 01/07/2010

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My June 08 baby was my 4th. i nursed w/ all of them. I weaned him at 12 mo sinply b/c he was on his way to becoming a big boy and needed to make his many steps in life in doing so. Plus nutrition wise he needed more vitamins than i could give him for his ever developing body. Don't forget moms, YOU are the parent. Don't let your baby tell you when it's time to be done, thats a bad way to start off his childhood thinking they are in control. You bonded, you can still bond doing everything else there is to do.... Rocking w/ a sippy cup or bottle, read, snuggle when they nap or sleep, play on the floor. No child will have issues that their mom cut them off from nursing when they were almost 2, but they will if they continue on much later

Katey - posted on 01/07/2010

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Hello! Yes I'm still nursing and loving it and I know that one day I will miss it very much. But I have noticed that he has slowed down, and my mom always said if you what to wean one have another. Lol

Melissa - posted on 01/07/2010

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No, I stopped a while back... and he is on solids, baby-solids, milk, water and juice. Not to worry though, he gets cuddle time with his daddy when he first wakes up in the morning, and cuddles with mummy before bedtime. He comes into our room, and it is now part of his routine.

Cayley - posted on 01/07/2010

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Hi i am still nursing my son to.I am so glad to see there are so many others. I didnt want to be but am to soft and I to am not sure of the right way to wean him without it being traumatic for both of us. My son will help himeself where ever we go and say titi titi mum, he sometimes throws a little tantrum if i dont give it to him or i have to jump up and distract him so he does start up. My mum says she nursed me till i was 4yrs but i dont even want to think about going over 2yrs. I have had the pills that dry your milk up for a few months now but I was just not ready . My son was in and out of hospital so each time i wanted to stop i didnt as this was the only thing that soothed him. Any suggestions would be good:)

Cheryl - posted on 01/06/2010

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I have recently started weaning my daughter off and after a mth or so, she is down to only one session juz before she falls asleep at night. It's not as deifficult as I thought it would be, so long as you stay firm and explain to him he is a big boy and he needs to stop it. Start from the day. Distract him whenever he asks for it. Good luck.

Deidre - posted on 01/06/2010

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DONT WORRY YOU JUST HAVE TO MAKE UP YOUR MIND THAT YOU WANT HIM OFF HE WON'T COME OFF BY HIMSELF BOYS NEVER DO... MY SON IS 19MONTHS HE JUST CAME OFF MY BREAST LAST MONTH HE CRIED MAYBE TWO OR THREE NIGHT AND WE WENT ON A HUNGER STRIKE FOR A COUPLE OF DAY BUT WHEN HE REALIZED HE HAD NO CHOICE HE GAVE IN NOW HE DOESNT EVEN REMEMBER IT AND MY SON NEVER TOOK A BOTTLE

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