what they will gravitate towards, so why all the repeat stuff(electives) they have done for They want education that they will use in the real world, in their world, of what they can accomplish. If a student is a math whiz then student will obviously have a math major, if he excells in science then etc. so he wants to know why not give us morewants to know of what we are good at and really teach us how we can utilize that which we already are destined for, thus letting us become very productive citizens in our world, with less exasperation of failing that which we can't get or understand even if we try? Why waste time on tutors, summer school, when we still try our best to get a D in math or whatever subject we just don not get and obviously will not use in our lifes, when we could be getting educated to the max in what we do know and excell in and are about, and will use??? That is how my 17 yo feels about education and fights with it so that he is now doing public online schooling but it is still the same he says so he is not interested and yes I ahve done all the above, to the point of a nervous breakdown. And at 17 no matter how much I teach or preach how important even a diploma is to further your gains it does not matter to him now. He is stuck.He will be 18 in 5 months and considered an ault and then what do I tell him? Sorry about your luck son. for it is his decision ultimately, but you feel so helpless to not have gotten thru to know that he is not the only one and oh how many teens are thinking so different than thse last generation. If you pick up books from the 80's-90's the educators in those books on reform are amazingly on the same page as our troubled students, yet nothing has reformed in the way to learn or educate. It is not one size fits all, I agree, we all learn in different ways and can excell if shown. As one Mom said on here ome students are just good at everything,some just go with the flow, some just get by,some just don't get it,so fall into categories of being lazy due to trying for 8-10 years doing ok and then that is where education should become individualized to bring out the best in those students,so they can be proud they know what they know and know it well. It may not be math but it may be english they excell in so let them write a book, journalism, etc. not lgebra if they have passed basic math let it go direct them in their strong points in last few years of HS, w/o all the electives and get on with what they do know. Should be the same in college.Do you really think you want to write a report on Abe Lincoln(of which u did in grade school) to major in becoming a Biologist? We need people in the work force quicker and emitting the electives could do that as well as save money and all that college debt they college dall start out with. Do they not work hard enough to be awarded an education, to start a clean slate. Sometime I think my sonand his peers way of thinking is right on and they should all get together and say hey this is my education and we deserve to be taught to the best of our abilities in who and what our makeup is. You can't make a builder want to be a scientist???? ok I better stop.But Ian so frustrated my son is falling thru the cracks like so many others with no ture unerstanding or way to go...

Dawn - posted on 11/27/2012 ( 1 mom has responded )

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Iam lost, sad, disappointed, angry, that so many high-schoolers want an education that utilizes there interests- to let them excell in- what they will gravitate towards(what they are good at and will obviously do in the real world), so as they call it, why all the repeat stuff (electives) they have already done for 10 years+. They want education that they will use in the real world, in their world(maybe because our world is so fast paced and everything is a t our fingertips, is why they feel they should learn quick and whats most important)? If a student is a math whiz then that student will obviously have a math major, if he excells in science then so on.So he wants to know why not give him(teach him) more of what he knows(what they are good at) and teach us how we can utilize that which we are already destined for, thus letting us become, very productive citizens in our world, with less exasperatrion of failing that which we can't get or understand even if we try? Why waste time and $ on tutors, summer school, when they still barely make it. It is just for us to get them thru the system not really teach the kid knowledge he will retain or use if he passes with a D- even with that help??? Hello and we accomplished a diploma with no real need of that subject for that kid. Boy this is hard to explain and I know I repeat myself alot but it makes sense. He says he could be geting educated to the max in what we do know and excell in and are about and will use??? This is how my 17 y.o. feels about education and fights with it so, that he is now doing public online schooling(of which he found on his own) but it is still the same he says, so he is not interested and yes I have done all of the above, to get him to do it , to go, etc. but only he can, but I was at a point of a nervous breakdown. He is 17, no matter how much I teach and preach how important, even a diploma is, to furtrher your gains, it does not matter to him now. He is stuck. He will be 18 in 5 months and considered an adult and then what do I tell him? Sorry about your luck son?(Love and Logic) for it is his decision ultimately. But you feel so helpless to not have gotten thru -to know, that he is not the only one and oh how many teens are thinking so different than the last generation. I f you pick up educational books from the 80'-90's, the educators in those books on reform- are amazingly on the same page as our troubled students, yet nothing has reformed in the way to teach or educate the diversified student.It is not a one size fits all, I agree. We all learn in different ways and can excell if shown. As one Mom said on here some students are just good at everything and it comes easy, some just go with the flow. some just get by, some just don't get it, so they fall into categories of being lazy, learning disabilities, and the like and some just say after 10 years of repeat they are ready to use what they need and thus education should become individualized to bring out the best in those students,so they can be proud they know what they know and know it well. It may not be math, but it may be english they excell in so let them wite a book,(besides most authors do not put their books together English majors do!) journalism, etc.not Algebra! If they have passed basic math and know how to balance a check book then.........direct them in there strong points, in the last few years of HS w/o all the electives- unless it pertains to what their excelled subjects are and get on with what they do know. Should be the same in college. Do you really want to write a report on Winston Churchhill(of which you did in grade school) to major in becomng a Biologist?We need people in the workforce quicker and emitting the electives could do that as well as save money money and all that college debt to start out with.Do they not work hard enough to be awarded an education, to start with a clean slate.Sometimes I think my son and his peers way of thinking is right on and they should all get together and say hey this is my education and we deserve to be taught to the best of our abilitites in who and what our makeup is. You can't make a builder want to be a scientist???ok I better stop. But Iam so frustrated my son is falling thru the cracks like so many others with no true understanding or way to go!

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sorry if more than one posts I did not know how to edit it and did not want the first one to post, trying to figure out how to delete the first one? Thanks for understanding! oops. Not been on computers too long.

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