at what age do you think it is morally right for children to be exclded from school for bad behavior

Carrie - posted on 07/14/2009 ( 116 moms have responded )

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my son was excluded from school at just 2 and half. i know his behaviour was awful but this was due to epilepsy and medication. i thought it was discusting how a nursery was allowed to exclude. what are your views?

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Felicia Neikolle - posted on 07/15/2009

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and who said i'm doing that with my child? if i was doing that i'd homeschool .












You've said in more than one post things that say EXACTLY that. You've stated that you want NO ONE disrupting your childs learning as a defense as to why you believe it's a disciplinary problem with the child in question as well as in defense to putting your child into a private school rather than a public school to keep them away from the children with special needs so they can't do this.  You've also now attacked me for defending the RIGHT OF EQUALITY.  Not to mention, you've stated that you didn't put them in day care b/c you chose to "raise them ourselves" ... and yet you aren't homeschooling?  hmmm, sounds like you are doing like the rest of us and allowing others to raise your children after all.









rolls eyes  it could be that the law requires them to go to school.





Yes but homeschooling is still them going to school.  There are plenty of accredited programs out there. And before looking down your nose at those of us who have used daycare perhaps you should try walking a mile in our shoes ... I had no choice but to choose daycare.  That happens when the man you said forever to only meant until the next young thing came along that made his flagpole excited.  Daycare isn't always bad and it doesn't make you less of a mom/parent for utilizing it. This isn't the dark ages where women's only role was to be a mom and wife ... and even then a widow was forced to work.  I will never tire of defending those of us who don't have the luxury and didn't bother to attach a price tag to love so we could just sit at home and shop all day while the man we love slaves away to maintain the price tag attached.

Felicia Neikolle - posted on 07/15/2009

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Quoting Michelle:



Quoting Nichole:

Everyone keep in mind that Michelle is perfect! She got married at 20 and waited to have sex till she was married and her and her husband only had sex with each other.
She is better than ever mother on her!!
Her children are perfect and they WILL also wait to have sex till they are married.
Michelle you have some nerve. Why do you always attack people like you do? I have reported everything that you said on this post, hopefully something will be done.
Back to the original question.
I think it is too young to exclude some one from school. Did they talk to you first? Or was it sudden? There are a lot children that have behavior problems at 2. I could see it being done if it was an on going problem. How is he doing now with the epilepsy?





report away i'm allowed to state my opnions this isnt' kiss my ass you must agree with me board





You're right, Michelle.  It's not ... but it IS a RESPECT EACH OTHER AS HUMANS AND PARENTS board.  You are attacking her for asking what others thought of a situation that occured 3 yrs ago and have told her basically that she is less of a mom b/c she expects her son to get equal treatment as others ... ironically enough YOU are the AMERICAN ... living in the very country representative of EQUAL RIGHTS.

Nichole - posted on 07/15/2009

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Everyone keep in mind that Michelle is perfect! She got married at 20 and waited to have sex till she was married and her and her husband only had sex with each other.
She is better than ever mother on her!!
Her children are perfect and they WILL also wait to have sex till they are married.
Michelle you have some nerve. Why do you always attack people like you do? I have reported everything that you said on this post, hopefully something will be done.
Back to the original question.
I think it is too young to exclude some one from school. Did they talk to you first? Or was it sudden? There are a lot children that have behavior problems at 2. I could see it being done if it was an on going problem. How is he doing now with the epilepsy?

Felicia Neikolle - posted on 07/15/2009

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and btw my  husband and son volunteer at the special olympics yearly well this was my sons first year and he's just now 5 so he's exposed plus he's friends with a little boy with autism... so i have nothing again kids with 'issues' i just dont want them or anyone disturbing my childs learning because their parents want the out of control kid treated the same as the behaved kid





I can understand not wanting anyone disrupting their learning ... however, I feel you should be prepared for this.  It's a fact of life and definitely a fact of schooling.  Do you work outside your home? If not, have you ever? If so, did everyone stay in their own place and not distract you or disrupt you at some point? It's life ... treating children with special needs as if they are normal is their GREATEST gift in this life ... this allows them to think of themselves as normal and not less than others as well as affords them the same opportunities in life (to find love, passion, success, etc). Just b/c they have special needs doesn't mean we should sanction them off to a special place for everyone to go, "Awe poor little special kid - too bad he/she can't be like everyone else" ... it's no different than separating the gifted students from the average or below average students ... doing this gives those who are gifted a chip on their shoulders of being special and the world should bow down to them (typically - obviously not in all cases - these are just generalizations) b/c they know it all, and also tells all the other kids to not even bother b/c they will never be as good as the gifted ones.  It's branding ... like the rich kids shouldn't bother associating with the poor kids b/c they couldn't possibly be as good of ppl as the rich ones.   That is one of the major reasons for the Declaration of Independence including the statement, "... that all men are created equal" within it's statement.  No man is less than the government in which reigns for w/o man no government would exsist.  Sorry for the soap box preaching ... I just can't stand for people to look down their noses at others b/c they are different.  HELLO PEOPLE!  WE ARE ALL DIFFERENT IN OUR OWN WAYS!!  NONE BETTER THAN THE OTHER!!!

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Carrie - posted on 07/17/2009

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Quoting Felicia Neikolle:

Jamie - don't sweat it ... she has to belittle ppl b/c she isn't happy with her life. I mean, it must be difficult trying to maintain the image of perfection at all times. I'd prolly be bitter too. Not to mention she will die knowing that she will never know if her life, especially her sex life, could have been any better ... only knowing one man and expected to always be perfect so he will maintain the price tag of love ... it's a hard life for anyone. Just ask Paris ... Hilton that is ... she couldn't do it either.














Geez, glad i didnt marry the first guy i had slept with. I mean compared to some he was pretty good, but my hubby not, oh my, lets just say hes capable of giving me the big "O". No other man Ive been with has. I think its good to get some experience I mean the only ideas this chic and her man are gonna get is from pornos.  And she may never know if her husband is any good. Heck the only way we know its being done right is they have kids. Its ok though, this world is full of haters, and those who think they are perfect. I just wish them the best and send them on thier way.


















i'm sorry i dont live up to your needs that everyone sleep around
















Yep slept around a lot(note my sarcasm), lol. It was fun, I mean I learned things about my self, learned what I liked what I didnt. Learned what Iiked i a partner. Did you know penises come in all different shapes and sizes and it makes a difference when having sex? I found the one that fits me perfectly. Did you? Oh wait, youve only had one.













i know that feeling and it's great! so everyime i have sex i great a huge O. bet michell doesn't get that!









and you knwo that why? because you obviously dont know crap






you are the one that started this! you are the one that went completely off track from the question! you are the one calling the names! so now i'll call you one FRIGID!!! you've only had sex with one person how do you know what your feeling is the best you can get?

Angie - posted on 07/17/2009

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SO...WOW...I think there are situations where a child should be kicked out...but I think that it is the daycares job to work with the child...You know the good ol' saying, "No Child Left Behind". Which I think its kind of bull, but if they want to promote it they should stick to it. If that child is hurting the other children, take them into a situation where its just him and another teacher.

AS FOR THE REST OF YOU...WOW!!!!!!!!! Just because they were virgins when they were married DOES NOT mean they are better than any of us...And for the mom's who were "sluts" (who includes me) who has sex before marriage...uh THANKS

Michelle - posted on 07/17/2009

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Quoting carrie:



Quoting Jamie:




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Quoting Felicia Neikolle:

Jamie - don't sweat it ... she has to belittle ppl b/c she isn't happy with her life. I mean, it must be difficult trying to maintain the image of perfection at all times. I'd prolly be bitter too. Not to mention she will die knowing that she will never know if her life, especially her sex life, could have been any better ... only knowing one man and expected to always be perfect so he will maintain the price tag of love ... it's a hard life for anyone. Just ask Paris ... Hilton that is ... she couldn't do it either.












Geez, glad i didnt marry the first guy i had slept with. I mean compared to some he was pretty good, but my hubby not, oh my, lets just say hes capable of giving me the big "O". No other man Ive been with has. I think its good to get some experience I mean the only ideas this chic and her man are gonna get is from pornos.  And she may never know if her husband is any good. Heck the only way we know its being done right is they have kids. Its ok though, this world is full of haters, and those who think they are perfect. I just wish them the best and send them on thier way.















i'm sorry i dont live up to your needs that everyone sleep around













Yep slept around a lot(note my sarcasm), lol. It was fun, I mean I learned things about my self, learned what I liked what I didnt. Learned what Iiked i a partner. Did you know penises come in all different shapes and sizes and it makes a difference when having sex? I found the one that fits me perfectly. Did you? Oh wait, youve only had one.










i know that feeling and it's great! so everyime i have sex i great a huge O. bet michell doesn't get that!





and you knwo that why? because you obviously dont know crap

Michelle - posted on 07/17/2009

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Quoting carrie:



Quoting Jamie:




Quoting Michelle:





Quoting Jamie:






Quoting Felicia Neikolle:

Jamie - don't sweat it ... she has to belittle ppl b/c she isn't happy with her life. I mean, it must be difficult trying to maintain the image of perfection at all times. I'd prolly be bitter too. Not to mention she will die knowing that she will never know if her life, especially her sex life, could have been any better ... only knowing one man and expected to always be perfect so he will maintain the price tag of love ... it's a hard life for anyone. Just ask Paris ... Hilton that is ... she couldn't do it either.












Geez, glad i didnt marry the first guy i had slept with. I mean compared to some he was pretty good, but my hubby not, oh my, lets just say hes capable of giving me the big "O". No other man Ive been with has. I think its good to get some experience I mean the only ideas this chic and her man are gonna get is from pornos.  And she may never know if her husband is any good. Heck the only way we know its being done right is they have kids. Its ok though, this world is full of haters, and those who think they are perfect. I just wish them the best and send them on thier way.















i'm sorry i dont live up to your needs that everyone sleep around













Yep slept around a lot(note my sarcasm), lol. It was fun, I mean I learned things about my self, learned what I liked what I didnt. Learned what Iiked i a partner. Did you know penises come in all different shapes and sizes and it makes a difference when having sex? I found the one that fits me perfectly. Did you? Oh wait, youve only had one.










i know that feeling and it's great! so everyime i have sex i great a huge O. bet michell doesn't get that!





and you knwo that why? because you obviously dont know crap

Carrie - posted on 07/17/2009

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Quoting Dayna:


I think in your case, the school should've sat down with you and gone over every possible avenue. I think there were probably a lot of options that were not explored here. If at that time, things were not improving, then I could see them asking you to remove your child from the setting. There are amazing programs and grants and volunteer organizations all over the world that are more than willing to help a child get into a special education setting in order to ensure that your child, just because he's different, receives the absolute best education, just like everyone else's child. After all, that's what it's all about isn't it :)



 






we got the early learning team envolved they decided to put extra funding in for him to have a 1 to 1 carer for 3 hours out of the 4 he was there. but the nursery excluded him just before this was put in place. i know everything that nursery  did was wrong, why in his new nursery before he started school did they not need the extra funding and now he's in school and he's a completely changed boy. he can get angry when he hears loud noises and if someone screamed in his face he would wallop them because of the noise but he doesn't have his major tantrums any more or headbut the floor anymore, his "tantrums" not the right word for when a 5 year old stresses out, but these are exactly the same as his pears now. i was just so angry, it caused me allot of stress i had to give up work, and just work one night a week, and then when i started uni i was just so nervous that he'd be behaving bad and they'd call me to get him because that is what the nursery used to do when they couldn't handle him. but i've been so luckly that the school he's in are brilliant. they are above avarage on nearly everything with OFSTED

Carrie - posted on 07/17/2009

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Quoting Jamie:



Quoting Michelle:




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Quoting Felicia Neikolle:

Jamie - don't sweat it ... she has to belittle ppl b/c she isn't happy with her life. I mean, it must be difficult trying to maintain the image of perfection at all times. I'd prolly be bitter too. Not to mention she will die knowing that she will never know if her life, especially her sex life, could have been any better ... only knowing one man and expected to always be perfect so he will maintain the price tag of love ... it's a hard life for anyone. Just ask Paris ... Hilton that is ... she couldn't do it either.










Geez, glad i didnt marry the first guy i had slept with. I mean compared to some he was pretty good, but my hubby not, oh my, lets just say hes capable of giving me the big "O". No other man Ive been with has. I think its good to get some experience I mean the only ideas this chic and her man are gonna get is from pornos.  And she may never know if her husband is any good. Heck the only way we know its being done right is they have kids. Its ok though, this world is full of haters, and those who think they are perfect. I just wish them the best and send them on thier way.












i'm sorry i dont live up to your needs that everyone sleep around










Yep slept around a lot(note my sarcasm), lol. It was fun, I mean I learned things about my self, learned what I liked what I didnt. Learned what Iiked i a partner. Did you know penises come in all different shapes and sizes and it makes a difference when having sex? I found the one that fits me perfectly. Did you? Oh wait, youve only had one.






i know that feeling and it's great! so everyime i have sex i great a huge O. bet michell doesn't get that!

Carrie - posted on 07/17/2009

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Quoting Jamie:

Kinda irritated with this post. I guess I am now a slut becaue techincally I had a child out of wedlock. Youd be shocked to know my exhusband is not my daughters biological father, even though techically I was married to my exhusband when I gave birth. I got divorced and got pregnant but didnt marry my sons dad until my son was 6 months old. I guess Im a slut. Oh well, im happy, my hubby is happy, my kids are happy, thats what truely matters.


thankyou for this, what michell is implying is wrong, in this day and age many women if not more have children out of wedlock, she's completely gone off the real subject!

Carrie - posted on 07/17/2009

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Kinda irritated with this post. I guess I am now a slut becaue techincally I had a child out of wedlock. Youd be shocked to know my exhusband is not my daughters biological father, even though techically I was married to my exhusband when I gave birth. I got divorced and got pregnant but didnt marry my sons dad until my son was 6 months old. I guess Im a slut. Oh well, im happy, my hubby is happy, my kids are happy, thats what truely matters.


thankyou for this, what michell is implying is wrong, in this day and age many women if not more have children out of wedlock, she's completely gone off the real subject!

Dayna - posted on 07/17/2009

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I think this is an extremely sensitive topic by reading through the replies, so I am going to try my hardest to be as diplomatic as possible :)



First of all, please let me express my sincerity and sympathy (as I cannot empathize) about your situation. No parent expects their child to be born with any difficulties, and wow, epilepsy, that's a doozy of a diagnosis. I am very happy to hear that he is doing well though!



I do agree with some of the points that some of the other moms have made, and some of the comments from others have left me feeling angry at the blatant ignorance/judgments they have posted.



I do feel that if ANY child at ANY age in ANY school is causing a disruption, I feel that a school should do their best by working with the parent and the child to rectify the situation. After all, they say it takes a community to raise a child (not sure I agree with that statement whole heartedly, but you get the idea) However, if after exploring every option and things are not improving, I do feel it would be important to find another avenue for your child. I know that if I was in your position, that I would not want to disrupt the learning curve of the other children, no matter what the age/setting. I feel that it is extremely important for children to have constructive and an uninterrupted learning experience in a calm and peaceful setting. All it takes is one child whether it be plain old behavioral problems or a bona fide medical reason like your sons, to disrupt that experience. I do not feel that there should be an age limit as the younger the child, the more likely they are to be upset by another child with problems, who lashes out, who has "episodes".. Yes I feel it is important for our children to be exposed to those who are different than others, and I feel it is very important to teach our children to be tolerant and accepting of those differences. But I think it is the job of the parent to teach that tolerance and acceptance. Very young children are easily agitated and scared. You have to stop and think about how fragile a young mind is. It's not about ignoring that they should be learning the tolerance of the other child's problems, but it's about providing a safe, stable and comfortable place for the children to learn in. It can make things much more difficult when all the children (especially at that age) see that one child is having problems and acting out and they then think that they can do the same. It's a clear cut case of "monkey see, monkey do" and that can cause a plethora of problems.



I think in your case, the school should've sat down with you and gone over every possible avenue. I think there were probably a lot of options that were not explored here. If at that time, things were not improving, then I could see them asking you to remove your child from the setting. There are amazing programs and grants and volunteer organizations all over the world that are more than willing to help a child get into a special education setting in order to ensure that your child, just because he's different, receives the absolute best education, just like everyone else's child. After all, that's what it's all about isn't it :)



I wish you and your family the absolute best of luck in the future and hope that your son lives a happy and healthy life... and of course, receives the education and empathy that every child deserves!

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i think that is discustin my 4 year old has epileps and his behaver is terible at times due to his medication i was really worryed about what would happen when he started nursary but his teacher is really good if that was me i would move him to anther nursary if that was me it not right i dont belive a child shold have special treatment becousce of his/her disability but at the age of 2 its not right how on earth did that person manage to get a job looking after childern anyway its wrong

Sabrina - posted on 07/17/2009

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Wow I read up on this topic because I found it interesting and in the midst of everything it became all about attacking people. I find it completely wrong that someone came into this post with such negativity and jugdement. Who are you to look down on other mothers and call them sluts. News flash! Everyone is different and their life paths are as well. Some may make a few wrong turns along the way but that doesn't make them bad people or parents. I personally had sex before I got married but didn't have a child until I was married. I myself have self control and could have abstained from sex, but chose not to. Just because we make a choice to have sex before marriage doesn't make us bad people or mothers. I now am with my husband and happy. So my having sex before marriage has no baring on how my son will be raised or the QUALITY of my husbadn and our marriage. Wake up and join us in the real world. Alot of people dont get married and have children at an early age who grow up to be very strong and intelligent people. You should try being more supportive of our mothers instead of finding way to insult them and their children.

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I think that as soon as a child is old enough to know what he or she has done is wrong, that would be the time. But in your case there were other reasons and i dont think they should have done that, have they explained to the other children that he has epilepsy and can sometimes act differantly??? The people running the out-fit should be capable of keeping an eye on him and dealing with what happens, when they accepted him they should of known he may need extra attention, as long as he hasnt pysically hurt another child. Cant be easy for you!!!!! But these caregivers accepted him knowing he had epilepsy, they cant just kick him when things get hard, they should have the resources to deal with it! Good Luck, i wish you the best!!!!

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Hi, I'm newer here, but just wanted to respond...I tried my best to read through the previous responses but it was a lot of unrelated stuff, so I apologize if I missed something important...but I do feel like they should try everything they can before excluding anyone, and in my experience with daycare, a "good" place will do that if they can. Now I don't know if you are in the US or not, but a lot of people are commenting as though we are talking about "school", but the reality is, if he was 2 1/2, this is a daycare situation, not a school, so they are not obligated to do anything in the way of extra help or evaluation or anything..."morally", I do believe they should do what they can and use exclusion as a last resort, but "legally", they don't have to do anything. They don't have to let your kid in if they don't like the shoes he has on, actually, because daycare or preschool of any kind is not a requirement...so none of that applies, even like "special needs" or "special ed" doesn't come in to play until a kid is kindergarten age. Unfortunately, it sounds like the place where your son was just didn't want to deal with him, and "legally" they could get away with it...but since your real question was is it "morally" wrong, I say hell yes! Your poor son! I hope that he is doin much better and as some people alluded to, it seems like it may have been a blessing in disguise and maybe that just wasn't the right place for you...but I know what a pain switching places is, so I can only imagine what a hassle that was!

Jamie - posted on 07/16/2009

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Quoting Felicia Neikolle:

Jamie - don't sweat it ... she has to belittle ppl b/c she isn't happy with her life. I mean, it must be difficult trying to maintain the image of perfection at all times. I'd prolly be bitter too. Not to mention she will die knowing that she will never know if her life, especially her sex life, could have been any better ... only knowing one man and expected to always be perfect so he will maintain the price tag of love ... it's a hard life for anyone. Just ask Paris ... Hilton that is ... she couldn't do it either.








Geez, glad i didnt marry the first guy i had slept with. I mean compared to some he was pretty good, but my hubby not, oh my, lets just say hes capable of giving me the big "O". No other man Ive been with has. I think its good to get some experience I mean the only ideas this chic and her man are gonna get is from pornos.  And she may never know if her husband is any good. Heck the only way we know its being done right is they have kids. Its ok though, this world is full of haters, and those who think they are perfect. I just wish them the best and send them on thier way.









i'm sorry i dont live up to your needs that everyone sleep around






Yep slept around a lot(note my sarcasm), lol. It was fun, I mean I learned things about my self, learned what I liked what I didnt. Learned what Iiked i a partner. Did you know penises come in all different shapes and sizes and it makes a difference when having sex? I found the one that fits me perfectly. Did you? Oh wait, youve only had one.

Mandy - posted on 07/16/2009

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My son was "kicked" out of daycare at a year for bitting the little brat that kept bitting him. So, I guess at any age, really. I don't think that it is always fare but it happens.

Nichole - posted on 07/16/2009

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Everyone keep in mind that Michelle is perfect! She got married at 20 and waited to have sex till she was married and her and her husband only had sex with each other.
She is better than ever mother on her!!
Her children are perfect and they WILL also wait to have sex till they are married.
Michelle you have some nerve. Why do you always attack people like you do? I have reported everything that you said on this post, hopefully something will be done.
Back to the original question.
I think it is too young to exclude some one from school. Did they talk to you first? Or was it sudden? There are a lot children that have behavior problems at 2. I could see it being done if it was an on going problem. How is he doing now with the epilepsy?





















oh that explains it all for me then "HAPPY FAMILYS". and if she thinks that of her children she's got another thing coming cause in england kids that go private school are often the ones that do sex and drugs and are the drop outs when it comes to university.






















they did talk to me first about getting extra funding for a worker to come in and do some one and one time, but excluded him before that was even put in place, he didn't even need that extra funding in the next nursery he went to. his epilepsy is under control at the moment but he is currently switching meds to see if this will help, to get the help you need you have to push for it, it doesn't just come to you it's taken 3 years to get to this point it's an ongoing problem but i now have support from the school he's in.






























I think they should of let you get the help you needed and I am glad you found a school that took him and is helping with him. I hope you got really mad at that school after they did that to your son its not right. It's like what where they there for? I would have been pissed.




















I did read the rest of what you wrote back to Michelle and I completely agree. I told her before to just wait till her or her husband hit there midlife crisis one of them will crack because they have only had sex with one another. She claims to have such a perfect life and yes she always calls peoples sluts who didn't wait till they were married to have sex. Everyone should live there life like hers cause she is perfect, she needs a mother of the universe medal.




























i always say, you wouyld never buy a car without test driving it first, so why would you marry someone without test driving them?
























Damn right!!! Kuddos to that.





















because you aren't a cow... i mean car


















Now your calling people names...wow. What an example you set for your children!!! I'd be so proud to have a mommy like you.















i dind't call anyone a name i was refering to the saying why buy a cow when you get the milk for free...why be commited when some hooch is going to give it up












You did, you called us all sluts, remember? God now I am yawning!!!!









*rolls eyes* it seems to bother you alot so must be the truth and hit a nerve





You can call me what ever you want. I just think you need to be a better role model for your children. What would they think if they knew mommy was running around calling other mothers sluts. Are you gonna call your daughter a slut when you find out at 16 that she is having sex? Hmmmm

Michelle - posted on 07/16/2009

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Quoting Felicia Neikolle:

Jamie - don't sweat it ... she has to belittle ppl b/c she isn't happy with her life. I mean, it must be difficult trying to maintain the image of perfection at all times. I'd prolly be bitter too. Not to mention she will die knowing that she will never know if her life, especially her sex life, could have been any better ... only knowing one man and expected to always be perfect so he will maintain the price tag of love ... it's a hard life for anyone. Just ask Paris ... Hilton that is ... she couldn't do it either.






Geez, glad i didnt marry the first guy i had slept with. I mean compared to some he was pretty good, but my hubby not, oh my, lets just say hes capable of giving me the big "O". No other man Ive been with has. I think its good to get some experience I mean the only ideas this chic and her man are gonna get is from pornos.  And she may never know if her husband is any good. Heck the only way we know its being done right is they have kids. Its ok though, this world is full of haters, and those who think they are perfect. I just wish them the best and send them on thier way.





i'm sorry i dont live up to your needs that everyone sleep around

Jamie - posted on 07/16/2009

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Quoting Felicia Neikolle:

Jamie - don't sweat it ... she has to belittle ppl b/c she isn't happy with her life. I mean, it must be difficult trying to maintain the image of perfection at all times. I'd prolly be bitter too. Not to mention she will die knowing that she will never know if her life, especially her sex life, could have been any better ... only knowing one man and expected to always be perfect so he will maintain the price tag of love ... it's a hard life for anyone. Just ask Paris ... Hilton that is ... she couldn't do it either.



Geez, glad i didnt marry the first guy i had slept with. I mean compared to some he was pretty good, but my hubby not, oh my, lets just say hes capable of giving me the big "O". No other man Ive been with has. I think its good to get some experience I mean the only ideas this chic and her man are gonna get is from pornos.  And she may never know if her husband is any good. Heck the only way we know its being done right is they have kids. Its ok though, this world is full of haters, and those who think they are perfect. I just wish them the best and send them on thier way.

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just saying Michelle ... you seem to only have an opinion that is riddled with disdain for others and are only capable of name calling and pointing of fingers ... plus, I never said that you didn't want to be with him ... just saying (and you admitted earlier on) that when you attach a price tag to love your life is easier but happiness is not always a guarantee.


you best reread i never mentioned money as important... we were dead broke college students when we met

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just saying Michelle ... you seem to only have an opinion that is riddled with disdain for others and are only capable of name calling and pointing of fingers ... plus, I never said that you didn't want to be with him ... just saying (and you admitted earlier on) that when you attach a price tag to love your life is easier but happiness is not always a guarantee.

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Everyone keep in mind that Michelle is perfect! She got married at 20 and waited to have sex till she was married and her and her husband only had sex with each other.
She is better than ever mother on her!!
Her children are perfect and they WILL also wait to have sex till they are married.
Michelle you have some nerve. Why do you always attack people like you do? I have reported everything that you said on this post, hopefully something will be done.
Back to the original question.
I think it is too young to exclude some one from school. Did they talk to you first? Or was it sudden? There are a lot children that have behavior problems at 2. I could see it being done if it was an on going problem. How is he doing now with the epilepsy?



















oh that explains it all for me then "HAPPY FAMILYS". and if she thinks that of her children she's got another thing coming cause in england kids that go private school are often the ones that do sex and drugs and are the drop outs when it comes to university.




















they did talk to me first about getting extra funding for a worker to come in and do some one and one time, but excluded him before that was even put in place, he didn't even need that extra funding in the next nursery he went to. his epilepsy is under control at the moment but he is currently switching meds to see if this will help, to get the help you need you have to push for it, it doesn't just come to you it's taken 3 years to get to this point it's an ongoing problem but i now have support from the school he's in.



























I think they should of let you get the help you needed and I am glad you found a school that took him and is helping with him. I hope you got really mad at that school after they did that to your son its not right. It's like what where they there for? I would have been pissed.


















I did read the rest of what you wrote back to Michelle and I completely agree. I told her before to just wait till her or her husband hit there midlife crisis one of them will crack because they have only had sex with one another. She claims to have such a perfect life and yes she always calls peoples sluts who didn't wait till they were married to have sex. Everyone should live there life like hers cause she is perfect, she needs a mother of the universe medal.

























i always say, you wouyld never buy a car without test driving it first, so why would you marry someone without test driving them?





















Damn right!!! Kuddos to that.


















because you aren't a cow... i mean car















Now your calling people names...wow. What an example you set for your children!!! I'd be so proud to have a mommy like you.












i dind't call anyone a name i was refering to the saying why buy a cow when you get the milk for free...why be commited when some hooch is going to give it up









You did, you called us all sluts, remember? God now I am yawning!!!!





*rolls eyes* it seems to bother you alot so must be the truth and hit a nerve

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Everyone keep in mind that Michelle is perfect! She got married at 20 and waited to have sex till she was married and her and her husband only had sex with each other.
She is better than ever mother on her!!
Her children are perfect and they WILL also wait to have sex till they are married.
Michelle you have some nerve. Why do you always attack people like you do? I have reported everything that you said on this post, hopefully something will be done.
Back to the original question.
I think it is too young to exclude some one from school. Did they talk to you first? Or was it sudden? There are a lot children that have behavior problems at 2. I could see it being done if it was an on going problem. How is he doing now with the epilepsy?

















oh that explains it all for me then "HAPPY FAMILYS". and if she thinks that of her children she's got another thing coming cause in england kids that go private school are often the ones that do sex and drugs and are the drop outs when it comes to university.


















they did talk to me first about getting extra funding for a worker to come in and do some one and one time, but excluded him before that was even put in place, he didn't even need that extra funding in the next nursery he went to. his epilepsy is under control at the moment but he is currently switching meds to see if this will help, to get the help you need you have to push for it, it doesn't just come to you it's taken 3 years to get to this point it's an ongoing problem but i now have support from the school he's in.
























I think they should of let you get the help you needed and I am glad you found a school that took him and is helping with him. I hope you got really mad at that school after they did that to your son its not right. It's like what where they there for? I would have been pissed.
















I did read the rest of what you wrote back to Michelle and I completely agree. I told her before to just wait till her or her husband hit there midlife crisis one of them will crack because they have only had sex with one another. She claims to have such a perfect life and yes she always calls peoples sluts who didn't wait till they were married to have sex. Everyone should live there life like hers cause she is perfect, she needs a mother of the universe medal.






















i always say, you wouyld never buy a car without test driving it first, so why would you marry someone without test driving them?


















Damn right!!! Kuddos to that.















because you aren't a cow... i mean car












Now your calling people names...wow. What an example you set for your children!!! I'd be so proud to have a mommy like you.









i dind't call anyone a name i was refering to the saying why buy a cow when you get the milk for free...why be commited when some hooch is going to give it up





You did, you called us all sluts, remember? God now I am yawning!!!!

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Quoting Felicia Neikolle:

Jamie - don't sweat it ... she has to belittle ppl b/c she isn't happy with her life. I mean, it must be difficult trying to maintain the image of perfection at all times. I'd prolly be bitter too. Not to mention she will die knowing that she will never know if her life, especially her sex life, could have been any better ... only knowing one man and expected to always be perfect so he will maintain the price tag of love ... it's a hard life for anyone. Just ask Paris ... Hilton that is ... she couldn't do it either.


actually i am happy and anyone that knows me know this... i dont maintain anything for money i love my husband  i've been with him since i was 18...if i didn't want to be with him i wouldn't have married him...

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Everyone keep in mind that Michelle is perfect! She got married at 20 and waited to have sex till she was married and her and her husband only had sex with each other.
She is better than ever mother on her!!
Her children are perfect and they WILL also wait to have sex till they are married.
Michelle you have some nerve. Why do you always attack people like you do? I have reported everything that you said on this post, hopefully something will be done.
Back to the original question.
I think it is too young to exclude some one from school. Did they talk to you first? Or was it sudden? There are a lot children that have behavior problems at 2. I could see it being done if it was an on going problem. How is he doing now with the epilepsy?















oh that explains it all for me then "HAPPY FAMILYS". and if she thinks that of her children she's got another thing coming cause in england kids that go private school are often the ones that do sex and drugs and are the drop outs when it comes to university.
















they did talk to me first about getting extra funding for a worker to come in and do some one and one time, but excluded him before that was even put in place, he didn't even need that extra funding in the next nursery he went to. his epilepsy is under control at the moment but he is currently switching meds to see if this will help, to get the help you need you have to push for it, it doesn't just come to you it's taken 3 years to get to this point it's an ongoing problem but i now have support from the school he's in.





















I think they should of let you get the help you needed and I am glad you found a school that took him and is helping with him. I hope you got really mad at that school after they did that to your son its not right. It's like what where they there for? I would have been pissed.














I did read the rest of what you wrote back to Michelle and I completely agree. I told her before to just wait till her or her husband hit there midlife crisis one of them will crack because they have only had sex with one another. She claims to have such a perfect life and yes she always calls peoples sluts who didn't wait till they were married to have sex. Everyone should live there life like hers cause she is perfect, she needs a mother of the universe medal.



















i always say, you wouyld never buy a car without test driving it first, so why would you marry someone without test driving them?















Damn right!!! Kuddos to that.












because you aren't a cow... i mean car









Now your calling people names...wow. What an example you set for your children!!! I'd be so proud to have a mommy like you.





i dind't call anyone a name i was refering to the saying why buy a cow when you get the milk for free...why be commited when some hooch is going to give it up

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Jamie - don't sweat it ... she has to belittle ppl b/c she isn't happy with her life. I mean, it must be difficult trying to maintain the image of perfection at all times. I'd prolly be bitter too. Not to mention she will die knowing that she will never know if her life, especially her sex life, could have been any better ... only knowing one man and expected to always be perfect so he will maintain the price tag of love ... it's a hard life for anyone. Just ask Paris ... Hilton that is ... she couldn't do it either.

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Kinda irritated with this post. I guess I am now a slut becaue techincally I had a child out of wedlock. Youd be shocked to know my exhusband is not my daughters biological father, even though techically I was married to my exhusband when I gave birth. I got divorced and got pregnant but didnt marry my sons dad until my son was 6 months old. I guess Im a slut. Oh well, im happy, my hubby is happy, my kids are happy, thats what truely matters.

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Everyone keep in mind that Michelle is perfect! She got married at 20 and waited to have sex till she was married and her and her husband only had sex with each other.
She is better than ever mother on her!!
Her children are perfect and they WILL also wait to have sex till they are married.
Michelle you have some nerve. Why do you always attack people like you do? I have reported everything that you said on this post, hopefully something will be done.
Back to the original question.
I think it is too young to exclude some one from school. Did they talk to you first? Or was it sudden? There are a lot children that have behavior problems at 2. I could see it being done if it was an on going problem. How is he doing now with the epilepsy?













oh that explains it all for me then "HAPPY FAMILYS". and if she thinks that of her children she's got another thing coming cause in england kids that go private school are often the ones that do sex and drugs and are the drop outs when it comes to university.














they did talk to me first about getting extra funding for a worker to come in and do some one and one time, but excluded him before that was even put in place, he didn't even need that extra funding in the next nursery he went to. his epilepsy is under control at the moment but he is currently switching meds to see if this will help, to get the help you need you have to push for it, it doesn't just come to you it's taken 3 years to get to this point it's an ongoing problem but i now have support from the school he's in.


















I think they should of let you get the help you needed and I am glad you found a school that took him and is helping with him. I hope you got really mad at that school after they did that to your son its not right. It's like what where they there for? I would have been pissed.












I did read the rest of what you wrote back to Michelle and I completely agree. I told her before to just wait till her or her husband hit there midlife crisis one of them will crack because they have only had sex with one another. She claims to have such a perfect life and yes she always calls peoples sluts who didn't wait till they were married to have sex. Everyone should live there life like hers cause she is perfect, she needs a mother of the universe medal.
















i always say, you wouyld never buy a car without test driving it first, so why would you marry someone without test driving them?












Damn right!!! Kuddos to that.









because you aren't a cow... i mean car





Now your calling people names...wow. What an example you set for your children!!! I'd be so proud to have a mommy like you.

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Everyone keep in mind that Michelle is perfect! She got married at 20 and waited to have sex till she was married and her and her husband only had sex with each other.
She is better than ever mother on her!!
Her children are perfect and they WILL also wait to have sex till they are married.
Michelle you have some nerve. Why do you always attack people like you do? I have reported everything that you said on this post, hopefully something will be done.
Back to the original question.
I think it is too young to exclude some one from school. Did they talk to you first? Or was it sudden? There are a lot children that have behavior problems at 2. I could see it being done if it was an on going problem. How is he doing now with the epilepsy?











oh that explains it all for me then "HAPPY FAMILYS". and if she thinks that of her children she's got another thing coming cause in england kids that go private school are often the ones that do sex and drugs and are the drop outs when it comes to university.












they did talk to me first about getting extra funding for a worker to come in and do some one and one time, but excluded him before that was even put in place, he didn't even need that extra funding in the next nursery he went to. his epilepsy is under control at the moment but he is currently switching meds to see if this will help, to get the help you need you have to push for it, it doesn't just come to you it's taken 3 years to get to this point it's an ongoing problem but i now have support from the school he's in.















I think they should of let you get the help you needed and I am glad you found a school that took him and is helping with him. I hope you got really mad at that school after they did that to your son its not right. It's like what where they there for? I would have been pissed.










I did read the rest of what you wrote back to Michelle and I completely agree. I told her before to just wait till her or her husband hit there midlife crisis one of them will crack because they have only had sex with one another. She claims to have such a perfect life and yes she always calls peoples sluts who didn't wait till they were married to have sex. Everyone should live there life like hers cause she is perfect, she needs a mother of the universe medal.













i always say, you wouyld never buy a car without test driving it first, so why would you marry someone without test driving them?









Damn right!!! Kuddos to that.





because you aren't a cow... i mean car

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I fully support my kids. Age has nothing to do with the ability to support your children. My sis and her ex-hubby were 18 when they got married and had my oldest nephew ... at 18 he was netting over $75k a year. Again, age doesn't make you less able to support your kids ... it's a choice - a daily choice. And just because someone chooses to utilize daycare doesn't make their choice wrong by any means. It doesn't mean someone else is raising your kid(s). It simply means they are using a tool offered to them. If you knew anything about daycare you would know this ... it isn't cheap! I've prolly paid more in child care thus far than you will for your son to go to private school (depending on if it's a boarding school or not). And if you think for one second that putting him in a private school will keep him protected from the horrible things that are learned socially in a public school then you are sorely mistaken. It will only teach him how to hide it better. By time I was in high school and attending public school I had already learned how to sneak out and be drunk all day w/o getting caught ... that is all thanks to the private schools!!











and it sounds like your parents weren't paying attention ... i have both eyes wide open my child would never succeed in that crap















I am SO sorry that you are THAT dumb to say that!!  Now at least we know why you aren't homeschooling!!  My parents weren't the reason I did any of it!!  You are an adult and must realize by now that it doesn't matter what your parents raise you to believe ... at some point you decide whether or not you truly believe in it.  Apparently your eyes are wide shut if you think that at age 5 you can say that in 11 years he won't be able to work you like a hot knife on butter.  LOL ... I feel SO sorry for you.  You think you have a better life ... reality check honey, your son is likely to be the next K-Fed!!!












*rolls eyes* if u knew my son at all u'd know how stupid you sound.. your parents not watching and checking to see what you were doing is part of why you did it.. the other part is probably lack of self control and common sense and BTW my eyes are wide open i refuse to let my parents see my kids * they are drug addicts and child abusers* so they've threatened to kidnap my son so never will my eyes be closed










tell me if i'm wrong, but you stated here that your parents are drug addicts and child abusers, so are you sure you was a virgin before you got married! some people even if they did wait to loose thier verginity under thier own terms don't get the chance! if you get what i mean. when something like this happens to a girl they either have lots of sex with many different men, or don't have sex at all.





i'm postive....

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I fully support my kids. Age has nothing to do with the ability to support your children. My sis and her ex-hubby were 18 when they got married and had my oldest nephew ... at 18 he was netting over $75k a year. Again, age doesn't make you less able to support your kids ... it's a choice - a daily choice. And just because someone chooses to utilize daycare doesn't make their choice wrong by any means. It doesn't mean someone else is raising your kid(s). It simply means they are using a tool offered to them. If you knew anything about daycare you would know this ... it isn't cheap! I've prolly paid more in child care thus far than you will for your son to go to private school (depending on if it's a boarding school or not). And if you think for one second that putting him in a private school will keep him protected from the horrible things that are learned socially in a public school then you are sorely mistaken. It will only teach him how to hide it better. By time I was in high school and attending public school I had already learned how to sneak out and be drunk all day w/o getting caught ... that is all thanks to the private schools!!











and it sounds like your parents weren't paying attention ... i have both eyes wide open my child would never succeed in that crap















I am SO sorry that you are THAT dumb to say that!!  Now at least we know why you aren't homeschooling!!  My parents weren't the reason I did any of it!!  You are an adult and must realize by now that it doesn't matter what your parents raise you to believe ... at some point you decide whether or not you truly believe in it.  Apparently your eyes are wide shut if you think that at age 5 you can say that in 11 years he won't be able to work you like a hot knife on butter.  LOL ... I feel SO sorry for you.  You think you have a better life ... reality check honey, your son is likely to be the next K-Fed!!!












*rolls eyes* if u knew my son at all u'd know how stupid you sound.. your parents not watching and checking to see what you were doing is part of why you did it.. the other part is probably lack of self control and common sense and BTW my eyes are wide open i refuse to let my parents see my kids * they are drug addicts and child abusers* so they've threatened to kidnap my son so never will my eyes be closed










tell me if i'm wrong, but you stated here that your parents are drug addicts and child abusers, so are you sure you was a virgin before you got married! some people even if they did wait to loose thier verginity under thier own terms don't get the chance! if you get what i mean. when something like this happens to a girl they either have lots of sex with many different men, or don't have sex at all.





i'm postive....

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it happend to my son at tht age just because he bit a child i think its stupid xxxx

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Everyone keep in mind that Michelle is perfect! She got married at 20 and waited to have sex till she was married and her and her husband only had sex with each other.
She is better than ever mother on her!!
Her children are perfect and they WILL also wait to have sex till they are married.
Michelle you have some nerve. Why do you always attack people like you do? I have reported everything that you said on this post, hopefully something will be done.
Back to the original question.
I think it is too young to exclude some one from school. Did they talk to you first? Or was it sudden? There are a lot children that have behavior problems at 2. I could see it being done if it was an on going problem. How is he doing now with the epilepsy?









oh that explains it all for me then "HAPPY FAMILYS". and if she thinks that of her children she's got another thing coming cause in england kids that go private school are often the ones that do sex and drugs and are the drop outs when it comes to university.










they did talk to me first about getting extra funding for a worker to come in and do some one and one time, but excluded him before that was even put in place, he didn't even need that extra funding in the next nursery he went to. his epilepsy is under control at the moment but he is currently switching meds to see if this will help, to get the help you need you have to push for it, it doesn't just come to you it's taken 3 years to get to this point it's an ongoing problem but i now have support from the school he's in.












I think they should of let you get the help you needed and I am glad you found a school that took him and is helping with him. I hope you got really mad at that school after they did that to your son its not right. It's like what where they there for? I would have been pissed.








I did read the rest of what you wrote back to Michelle and I completely agree. I told her before to just wait till her or her husband hit there midlife crisis one of them will crack because they have only had sex with one another. She claims to have such a perfect life and yes she always calls peoples sluts who didn't wait till they were married to have sex. Everyone should live there life like hers cause she is perfect, she needs a mother of the universe medal.










i always say, you wouyld never buy a car without test driving it first, so why would you marry someone without test driving them?





Damn right!!! Kuddos to that.

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i call people a slut because they can't keep their legs closed then wonder why they have guys that run off and leave with them with kids they can't afford












Hmmm ... interesting.  So, what you are saying here is that since I wasn't a virgin when I married my ex-husband that I deserved for him to run out on me with a 16 yr old b/c I slept with him prior to marrying him.  Interesting.  You know, you should try doing your homework on the institution of marriage prior to being such a witch about it all.  I am Jewish by heritage (though I don't practice Judaism) and this is the TRUE chronicles of marriage ... the couple is betrothed and the man goes off to prepare the house for him and his bride. They don't see each other the entire time this occurs. Then, in the middle of the night (once the house is ready) he comes and steals her away and takes her to their new home. When the parents awake the next morning they begin the journey to the newlyweds home. When they arrive they expect to see a sheet hung out with blood on it from the consumation of the unity of the two - THEN the marriage ceremony begins.  You see, when God first outlined marriage is was a blood covenant with the ceremony being a celebration of the union (our receptions now a days).  It was until after man got all greedy and such that marriage was considered to be the act of vowing to each other in front of God and man to be faithful and true throughout life.  Marriage today is nothing more than a piece of paper and a right to tax by the government.  I believe in the original sanctity of marriage ... though still abide by the laws of the land as well where this is concerned.  I'm just advising you that in God's eyes when you give yourself unto someone ... you are married.









not jewish nor do i believe in any of the jewish relgion that is of course your right to believe what you want





apparently others were right - you can't read.  I didn't say that I believed in any of the "Jewish religion" aka Judaism.  In fact, I said I was Jewish by heritage ... not by faith.  The point is that if you did your history you would find that most cultures were in fact similar to what I outlined.  It's only in modern society and since the establishment of Catholicism that pre-marital sex has been wrong.  Just saying.  Either way, me having sex with my ex before marriage is NOT what doomed me to being a single mom for so long ... his inability to keep it in his pants did.  It also doesn't make me a slut.  Per Webster ... slut: -noun 1. a dirty, slovenly woman. 2. an immoral or dissolute woman; a prostitute.  See ... not a slut!!  In fact, having pre-marital sex isn't even part of the definition ... it says a slut is a dirty woman or an immoral woman such as a prostitute ... definitely never been one of those!  And before you find another name for it ... whore means the same as slut as does skank.  Dictionary.com if you don't believe me.

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I fully support my kids. Age has nothing to do with the ability to support your children. My sis and her ex-hubby were 18 when they got married and had my oldest nephew ... at 18 he was netting over $75k a year. Again, age doesn't make you less able to support your kids ... it's a choice - a daily choice. And just because someone chooses to utilize daycare doesn't make their choice wrong by any means. It doesn't mean someone else is raising your kid(s). It simply means they are using a tool offered to them. If you knew anything about daycare you would know this ... it isn't cheap! I've prolly paid more in child care thus far than you will for your son to go to private school (depending on if it's a boarding school or not). And if you think for one second that putting him in a private school will keep him protected from the horrible things that are learned socially in a public school then you are sorely mistaken. It will only teach him how to hide it better. By time I was in high school and attending public school I had already learned how to sneak out and be drunk all day w/o getting caught ... that is all thanks to the private schools!!









and it sounds like your parents weren't paying attention ... i have both eyes wide open my child would never succeed in that crap












I am SO sorry that you are THAT dumb to say that!!  Now at least we know why you aren't homeschooling!!  My parents weren't the reason I did any of it!!  You are an adult and must realize by now that it doesn't matter what your parents raise you to believe ... at some point you decide whether or not you truly believe in it.  Apparently your eyes are wide shut if you think that at age 5 you can say that in 11 years he won't be able to work you like a hot knife on butter.  LOL ... I feel SO sorry for you.  You think you have a better life ... reality check honey, your son is likely to be the next K-Fed!!!









*rolls eyes* if u knew my son at all u'd know how stupid you sound.. your parents not watching and checking to see what you were doing is part of why you did it.. the other part is probably lack of self control and common sense and BTW my eyes are wide open i refuse to let my parents see my kids * they are drug addicts and child abusers* so they've threatened to kidnap my son so never will my eyes be closed






tell me if i'm wrong, but you stated here that your parents are drug addicts and child abusers, so are you sure you was a virgin before you got married! some people even if they did wait to loose thier verginity under thier own terms don't get the chance! if you get what i mean. when something like this happens to a girl they either have lots of sex with many different men, or don't have sex at all.

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I fully support my kids. Age has nothing to do with the ability to support your children. My sis and her ex-hubby were 18 when they got married and had my oldest nephew ... at 18 he was netting over $75k a year. Again, age doesn't make you less able to support your kids ... it's a choice - a daily choice. And just because someone chooses to utilize daycare doesn't make their choice wrong by any means. It doesn't mean someone else is raising your kid(s). It simply means they are using a tool offered to them. If you knew anything about daycare you would know this ... it isn't cheap! I've prolly paid more in child care thus far than you will for your son to go to private school (depending on if it's a boarding school or not). And if you think for one second that putting him in a private school will keep him protected from the horrible things that are learned socially in a public school then you are sorely mistaken. It will only teach him how to hide it better. By time I was in high school and attending public school I had already learned how to sneak out and be drunk all day w/o getting caught ... that is all thanks to the private schools!!









and it sounds like your parents weren't paying attention ... i have both eyes wide open my child would never succeed in that crap












I am SO sorry that you are THAT dumb to say that!!  Now at least we know why you aren't homeschooling!!  My parents weren't the reason I did any of it!!  You are an adult and must realize by now that it doesn't matter what your parents raise you to believe ... at some point you decide whether or not you truly believe in it.  Apparently your eyes are wide shut if you think that at age 5 you can say that in 11 years he won't be able to work you like a hot knife on butter.  LOL ... I feel SO sorry for you.  You think you have a better life ... reality check honey, your son is likely to be the next K-Fed!!!









*rolls eyes* if u knew my son at all u'd know how stupid you sound.. your parents not watching and checking to see what you were doing is part of why you did it.. the other part is probably lack of self control and common sense and BTW my eyes are wide open i refuse to let my parents see my kids * they are drug addicts and child abusers* so they've threatened to kidnap my son so never will my eyes be closed






tell me if i'm wrong, but you stated here that your parents are drug addicts and child abusers, so are you sure you was a virgin before you got married! some people even if they did wait to loose thier verginity under thier own terms don't get the chance! if you get what i mean. when something like this happens to a girl they either have lots of sex with many different men, or don't have sex at all.

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i call people a slut because they can't keep their legs closed then wonder why they have guys that run off and leave with them with kids they can't afford









Hmmm ... interesting.  So, what you are saying here is that since I wasn't a virgin when I married my ex-husband that I deserved for him to run out on me with a 16 yr old b/c I slept with him prior to marrying him.  Interesting.  You know, you should try doing your homework on the institution of marriage prior to being such a witch about it all.  I am Jewish by heritage (though I don't practice Judaism) and this is the TRUE chronicles of marriage ... the couple is betrothed and the man goes off to prepare the house for him and his bride. They don't see each other the entire time this occurs. Then, in the middle of the night (once the house is ready) he comes and steals her away and takes her to their new home. When the parents awake the next morning they begin the journey to the newlyweds home. When they arrive they expect to see a sheet hung out with blood on it from the consumation of the unity of the two - THEN the marriage ceremony begins.  You see, when God first outlined marriage is was a blood covenant with the ceremony being a celebration of the union (our receptions now a days).  It was until after man got all greedy and such that marriage was considered to be the act of vowing to each other in front of God and man to be faithful and true throughout life.  Marriage today is nothing more than a piece of paper and a right to tax by the government.  I believe in the original sanctity of marriage ... though still abide by the laws of the land as well where this is concerned.  I'm just advising you that in God's eyes when you give yourself unto someone ... you are married.





not jewish nor do i believe in any of the jewish relgion that is of course your right to believe what you want

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Everyone keep in mind that Michelle is perfect! She got married at 20 and waited to have sex till she was married and her and her husband only had sex with each other.
She is better than ever mother on her!!
Her children are perfect and they WILL also wait to have sex till they are married.
Michelle you have some nerve. Why do you always attack people like you do? I have reported everything that you said on this post, hopefully something will be done.
Back to the original question.
I think it is too young to exclude some one from school. Did they talk to you first? Or was it sudden? There are a lot children that have behavior problems at 2. I could see it being done if it was an on going problem. How is he doing now with the epilepsy?







oh that explains it all for me then "HAPPY FAMILYS". and if she thinks that of her children she's got another thing coming cause in england kids that go private school are often the ones that do sex and drugs and are the drop outs when it comes to university.








they did talk to me first about getting extra funding for a worker to come in and do some one and one time, but excluded him before that was even put in place, he didn't even need that extra funding in the next nursery he went to. his epilepsy is under control at the moment but he is currently switching meds to see if this will help, to get the help you need you have to push for it, it doesn't just come to you it's taken 3 years to get to this point it's an ongoing problem but i now have support from the school he's in.









I think they should of let you get the help you needed and I am glad you found a school that took him and is helping with him. I hope you got really mad at that school after they did that to your son its not right. It's like what where they there for? I would have been pissed.






I did read the rest of what you wrote back to Michelle and I completely agree. I told her before to just wait till her or her husband hit there midlife crisis one of them will crack because they have only had sex with one another. She claims to have such a perfect life and yes she always calls peoples sluts who didn't wait till they were married to have sex. Everyone should live there life like hers cause she is perfect, she needs a mother of the universe medal.






i always say, you wouyld never buy a car without test driving it first, so why would you marry someone without test driving them?

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I dont think that a child should be excluded until at least 10. They should have never taken your son out of school at 2 an half. That is way to young

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I don't think any child should be excluded till they're at least 9 or 10 and even then should be a total last resort after everything else is used it. excludeing a child as young as 2 is absolutely rediculous children of that age cannot be held responsible for their actions and they won't even understand what excludeing is he might even like it cos he gets to stay at home with mummy instead it will deffinately not stop his bad behaviour

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Hmmm ... interesting.  So, what you are saying here is that since I wasn't a virgin when I married my ex-husband that I deserved for him to run out on me with a 16 yr old b/c I slept with him prior to marrying him.  Interesting.  You know, you should try doing your homework on the institution of marriage prior to being such a witch about it all.  I am Jewish by heritage (though I don't practice Judaism) and this is the TRUE chronicles of marriage ... the couple is betrothed and the man goes off to prepare the house for him and his bride. They don't see each other the entire time this occurs. Then, in the middle of the night (once the house is ready) he comes and steals her away and takes her to their new home. When the parents awake the next morning they begin the journey to the newlyweds home. When they arrive they expect to see a sheet hung out with blood on it from the consumation of the unity of the two - THEN the marriage ceremony begins.  You see, when God first outlined marriage is was a blood covenant with the ceremony being a celebration of the union (our receptions now a days).  It was until after man got all greedy and such that marriage was considered to be the act of vowing to each other in front of God and man to be faithful and true throughout life.  Marriage today is nothing more than a piece of paper and a right to tax by the government.  I believe in the original sanctity of marriage ... though still abide by the laws of the land as well where this is concerned.  I'm just advising you that in God's eyes when you give yourself unto someone ... you are married.

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Everyone keep in mind that Michelle is perfect! She got married at 20 and waited to have sex till she was married and her and her husband only had sex with each other.
She is better than ever mother on her!!
Her children are perfect and they WILL also wait to have sex till they are married.
Michelle you have some nerve. Why do you always attack people like you do? I have reported everything that you said on this post, hopefully something will be done.
Back to the original question.
I think it is too young to exclude some one from school. Did they talk to you first? Or was it sudden? There are a lot children that have behavior problems at 2. I could see it being done if it was an on going problem. How is he doing now with the epilepsy?











oh that explains it all for me then "HAPPY FAMILYS". and if she thinks that of her children she's got another thing coming cause in england kids that go private school are often the ones that do sex and drugs and are the drop outs when it comes to university.












they did talk to me first about getting extra funding for a worker to come in and do some one and one time, but excluded him before that was even put in place, he didn't even need that extra funding in the next nursery he went to. his epilepsy is under control at the moment but he is currently switching meds to see if this will help, to get the help you need you have to push for it, it doesn't just come to you it's taken 3 years to get to this point it's an ongoing problem but i now have support from the school he's in.















I think they should of let you get the help you needed and I am glad you found a school that took him and is helping with him. I hope you got really mad at that school after they did that to your son its not right. It's like what where they there for? I would have been pissed.










I did read the rest of what you wrote back to Michelle and I completely agree. I told her before to just wait till her or her husband hit there midlife crisis one of them will crack because they have only had sex with one another. She claims to have such a perfect life and yes she always calls peoples sluts who didn't wait till they were married to have sex. Everyone should live there life like hers cause she is perfect, she needs a mother of the universe medal.












i call people a slut because they can't keep their legs closed then wonder why they have guys that run off and leave with them with kids they can't afford









Oh my god you are so dense...Not everyone that has sex before marriage is a slut and not everyone that has children with someone is in that situation. Shut up!!!!





yawn you are about as boring as they come

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Everyone keep in mind that Michelle is perfect! She got married at 20 and waited to have sex till she was married and her and her husband only had sex with each other.
She is better than ever mother on her!!
Her children are perfect and they WILL also wait to have sex till they are married.
Michelle you have some nerve. Why do you always attack people like you do? I have reported everything that you said on this post, hopefully something will be done.
Back to the original question.
I think it is too young to exclude some one from school. Did they talk to you first? Or was it sudden? There are a lot children that have behavior problems at 2. I could see it being done if it was an on going problem. How is he doing now with the epilepsy?









oh that explains it all for me then "HAPPY FAMILYS". and if she thinks that of her children she's got another thing coming cause in england kids that go private school are often the ones that do sex and drugs and are the drop outs when it comes to university.










they did talk to me first about getting extra funding for a worker to come in and do some one and one time, but excluded him before that was even put in place, he didn't even need that extra funding in the next nursery he went to. his epilepsy is under control at the moment but he is currently switching meds to see if this will help, to get the help you need you have to push for it, it doesn't just come to you it's taken 3 years to get to this point it's an ongoing problem but i now have support from the school he's in.












I think they should of let you get the help you needed and I am glad you found a school that took him and is helping with him. I hope you got really mad at that school after they did that to your son its not right. It's like what where they there for? I would have been pissed.








I did read the rest of what you wrote back to Michelle and I completely agree. I told her before to just wait till her or her husband hit there midlife crisis one of them will crack because they have only had sex with one another. She claims to have such a perfect life and yes she always calls peoples sluts who didn't wait till they were married to have sex. Everyone should live there life like hers cause she is perfect, she needs a mother of the universe medal.









i call people a slut because they can't keep their legs closed then wonder why they have guys that run off and leave with them with kids they can't afford





Oh my god you are so dense...Not everyone that has sex before marriage is a slut and not everyone that has children with someone is in that situation. Shut up!!!!

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Everyone keep in mind that Michelle is perfect! She got married at 20 and waited to have sex till she was married and her and her husband only had sex with each other.
She is better than ever mother on her!!
Her children are perfect and they WILL also wait to have sex till they are married.
Michelle you have some nerve. Why do you always attack people like you do? I have reported everything that you said on this post, hopefully something will be done.
Back to the original question.
I think it is too young to exclude some one from school. Did they talk to you first? Or was it sudden? There are a lot children that have behavior problems at 2. I could see it being done if it was an on going problem. How is he doing now with the epilepsy?







oh that explains it all for me then "HAPPY FAMILYS". and if she thinks that of her children she's got another thing coming cause in england kids that go private school are often the ones that do sex and drugs and are the drop outs when it comes to university.








they did talk to me first about getting extra funding for a worker to come in and do some one and one time, but excluded him before that was even put in place, he didn't even need that extra funding in the next nursery he went to. his epilepsy is under control at the moment but he is currently switching meds to see if this will help, to get the help you need you have to push for it, it doesn't just come to you it's taken 3 years to get to this point it's an ongoing problem but i now have support from the school he's in.









I think they should of let you get the help you needed and I am glad you found a school that took him and is helping with him. I hope you got really mad at that school after they did that to your son its not right. It's like what where they there for? I would have been pissed.






I did read the rest of what you wrote back to Michelle and I completely agree. I told her before to just wait till her or her husband hit there midlife crisis one of them will crack because they have only had sex with one another. She claims to have such a perfect life and yes she always calls peoples sluts who didn't wait till they were married to have sex. Everyone should live there life like hers cause she is perfect, she needs a mother of the universe medal.





i call people a slut because they can't keep their legs closed then wonder why they have guys that run off and leave with them with kids they can't afford

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Everyone keep in mind that Michelle is perfect! She got married at 20 and waited to have sex till she was married and her and her husband only had sex with each other.
She is better than ever mother on her!!
Her children are perfect and they WILL also wait to have sex till they are married.
Michelle you have some nerve. Why do you always attack people like you do? I have reported everything that you said on this post, hopefully something will be done.
Back to the original question.
I think it is too young to exclude some one from school. Did they talk to you first? Or was it sudden? There are a lot children that have behavior problems at 2. I could see it being done if it was an on going problem. How is he doing now with the epilepsy?





oh that explains it all for me then "HAPPY FAMILYS". and if she thinks that of her children she's got another thing coming cause in england kids that go private school are often the ones that do sex and drugs and are the drop outs when it comes to university.






they did talk to me first about getting extra funding for a worker to come in and do some one and one time, but excluded him before that was even put in place, he didn't even need that extra funding in the next nursery he went to. his epilepsy is under control at the moment but he is currently switching meds to see if this will help, to get the help you need you have to push for it, it doesn't just come to you it's taken 3 years to get to this point it's an ongoing problem but i now have support from the school he's in.





I think they should of let you get the help you needed and I am glad you found a school that took him and is helping with him. I hope you got really mad at that school after they did that to your son its not right. It's like what where they there for? I would have been pissed.



I did read the rest of what you wrote back to Michelle and I completely agree. I told her before to just wait till her or her husband hit there midlife crisis one of them will crack because they have only had sex with one another. She claims to have such a perfect life and yes she always calls peoples sluts who didn't wait till they were married to have sex. Everyone should live there life like hers cause she is perfect, she needs a mother of the universe medal.

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My kids are beyond believable. My son is the youngest in his class and the top of his class, in the gifted program at school with an exceptionally hi IQ, with a green belt in karate, and does three other sports, volunteers in church, is talented musically as well, and already does community service at the children's hospital. My daughter is just as bright but too young for the gifted program, does dance, cheerleading, tumbling, is also musically talented, participates in church, volunteers with the children's hospital and I've been a single mom most of their life and once was a drug addict and alcoholic. So yes, we shall see whose kid is screwed up in the end.



wow! well done to your children and yourself for being able to turn your life around like that, she'll see in the future that what she's writting is bull, cause my parents were the same, they had me who, ended up prggers at 18, dabled in drugs and slept with many men, for a reason i would rather not state because then she'll point a finger at me on that and say that was my fault too, but i've now over last 5 years grown up, children make you grow up. my brothers both live at home still, take the piss right out of my mum and dad, bleed them dry of all thier moneys, yet they don't know that one of my brothers is such a nutter with his recreational drug use that he's gonna end up dead the ammount of mad man and bzp he takes, and the other one although he works i would class him as clinically insane the ammount of weed he smokes and acid, and magic mushrooms he takes. so just watch this space! i can't believe the crap she's comming out with, it's unreal!



money is not something that will resove situations, support is! and i was mad cause i was denied support when i asked for it, i wasn't a mom that liked her child to behave, i was trying to resolve it.

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I fully support my kids. Age has nothing to do with the ability to support your children. My sis and her ex-hubby were 18 when they got married and had my oldest nephew ... at 18 he was netting over $75k a year. Again, age doesn't make you less able to support your kids ... it's a choice - a daily choice. And just because someone chooses to utilize daycare doesn't make their choice wrong by any means. It doesn't mean someone else is raising your kid(s). It simply means they are using a tool offered to them. If you knew anything about daycare you would know this ... it isn't cheap! I've prolly paid more in child care thus far than you will for your son to go to private school (depending on if it's a boarding school or not). And if you think for one second that putting him in a private school will keep him protected from the horrible things that are learned socially in a public school then you are sorely mistaken. It will only teach him how to hide it better. By time I was in high school and attending public school I had already learned how to sneak out and be drunk all day w/o getting caught ... that is all thanks to the private schools!!











and it sounds like your parents weren't paying attention ... i have both eyes wide open my child would never succeed in that crap















Is everything about being better than all of us moms. You're paying more than us, you're a stay home mom cause you can be, you are raising your children, you waited to have sex  till you were married, you only had sex with one person....Jeez










We get it Michelle, you are better than ALL of us.












did i say i was better? at no point did i say that... i'm just not a slut and smart enough to wait to do things you know that thing called self control...









See now you are calling everyone who has had sex before marriage a slut. I am not married, am I a slut? I don't believe in marriage but I am with the person I plan on being with for the rest of my life. Marriage is a piece of paper, sweetie. Wake up, we are in year 2009.






I am also agreeing with Felicia, you are not gonna know in 11 years what your children are doing. So, you can't sit here and say that they are going to be angels. Even the best raised kids could turn out to be drug addicts and having sex young..






doesn't she just make you laugh!!!! my mum and dad foster children, they were taught to look out for kids changing, but they did not know half of what i got up to as a child, and they are completely shocked when i tell them now. and like someone else stated, it is easier for private school kids to hide what they're up to.



and i can't believe your calling people sluts! we'll see maybe when your in your 40's the next little miss thing will have your husbands eye and "we'll see". actually it is usually people like yourself that put up a big brick wall and pretend thier perfect when actually behind closed doors it's a differnt matter all together.

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and who said i'm doing that with my child? if i was doing that i'd homeschool .
























You've said in more than one post things that say EXACTLY that. You've stated that you want NO ONE disrupting your childs learning as a defense as to why you believe it's a disciplinary problem with the child in question as well as in defense to putting your child into a private school rather than a public school to keep them away from the children with special needs so they can't do this.  You've also now attacked me for defending the RIGHT OF EQUALITY.  Not to mention, you've stated that you didn't put them in day care b/c you chose to "raise them ourselves" ... and yet you aren't homeschooling?  hmmm, sounds like you are doing like the rest of us and allowing others to raise your children after all.





















rolls eyes  it could be that the law requires them to go to school.


















or maybe it's because i know as much as i'd like to stick my kids ina  bubble and protecct them from this F'ed up world that isn't an option forever















That's BS. The law DOES NOT require them to "GO" to school. You can certainly home school them. What planet are you on?












if u read further u'd see where i said i KNOW i can't protect them from everything which is why they will go to private school









Sorry we all can't be perfect like you and sending our children to private school and not sending our children daycare/school. Which my child WILL attend nursery school to start learning at a young age. Cause the post did state nursery school, not day care. Sending your children to school at a young age is very important I think, so they can start to learn young.






And let me tell you a little secret in the area I grew up the private school kids were way worse then the public school kids cause their parents had money. They were the ones more into sex and drugs. Just a thought.






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i was a working single parent not everyone has a perfect situation where they meet the love of thier life and settle down, some men are bastards and leave you stranded. so i had to use daycare, but it was part of a nursery. i could have left him with my mum because she is a foster carer but i chose daycare/nursery so he did not get attached to my mum, i was only doing 20 hours a week he was there for 4 hours a day! why are you moking a mother going to work not everyone can afford to stay at home with thier kids especially when you stop getting maternity pay!

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Everyone keep in mind that Michelle is perfect! She got married at 20 and waited to have sex till she was married and her and her husband only had sex with each other.
She is better than ever mother on her!!
Her children are perfect and they WILL also wait to have sex till they are married.
Michelle you have some nerve. Why do you always attack people like you do? I have reported everything that you said on this post, hopefully something will be done.
Back to the original question.
I think it is too young to exclude some one from school. Did they talk to you first? Or was it sudden? There are a lot children that have behavior problems at 2. I could see it being done if it was an on going problem. How is he doing now with the epilepsy?







report away i'm allowed to state my opnions this isnt' kiss my ass you must agree with me board









You're right, Michelle.  It's not ... but it IS a RESPECT EACH OTHER AS HUMANS AND PARENTS board.  You are attacking her for asking what others thought of a situation that occured 3 yrs ago and have told her basically that she is less of a mom b/c she expects her son to get equal treatment as others ... ironically enough YOU are the AMERICAN ... living in the very country representative of EQUAL RIGHTS.






LOL! we all know that for some americans it's one rule for them and another rule for others, they like to put these in place but not carry it out themselves

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Everyone keep in mind that Michelle is perfect! She got married at 20 and waited to have sex till she was married and her and her husband only had sex with each other.
She is better than ever mother on her!!
Her children are perfect and they WILL also wait to have sex till they are married.
Michelle you have some nerve. Why do you always attack people like you do? I have reported everything that you said on this post, hopefully something will be done.
Back to the original question.
I think it is too young to exclude some one from school. Did they talk to you first? Or was it sudden? There are a lot children that have behavior problems at 2. I could see it being done if it was an on going problem. How is he doing now with the epilepsy?


oh that explains it all for me then "HAPPY FAMILYS". and if she thinks that of her children she's got another thing coming cause in england kids that go private school are often the ones that do sex and drugs and are the drop outs when it comes to university.



they did talk to me first about getting extra funding for a worker to come in and do some one and one time, but excluded him before that was even put in place, he didn't even need that extra funding in the next nursery he went to. his epilepsy is under control at the moment but he is currently switching meds to see if this will help, to get the help you need you have to push for it, it doesn't just come to you it's taken 3 years to get to this point it's an ongoing problem but i now have support from the school he's in.

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well if he has issues then he needs kicked out... my son will be starting kindy in august and i'm not paying out the ass to send him to private school to have some little brat with parents that dont give a jack to displine disturbing his learning




















excuse me who are you to judge me and say i don't disapline my children, my 5 year old son needs firm boundaries, and the ammount of work and effort i have put in to get his behaviour under control is a hell of allot more than you would have ever had to do.have you even read this post my son has epilepsy and sensory difficulties, if he heard a loud noise he would go crazy! so now your judging, cause if you had read the post you obviously have no respect for children with difficulties. 



























i'm sorry your child has issues BUT WHY should he be allowed to bother other kids? to be put in a situation to cause other kids to be distracted instead of learning? i know enough about epilepsy to know if he's disturbing his class he needs to have his meds changed yeah some meds caused behavior issues and you just have to keep trying till u find one that doesn't
























so don't just leave it there where do you suggest you put a child that disrupts the class then, i'd like to know the answer to that





















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lol you make me laugh, the kids that go private school in england are just as bad as the ones that go state school. they still hang out with other kids after school or still drink and do drugs with their friends that are in private school. your so naive to believe that they are not going to run into some sort of trouble in their life.















did i say they wouldn't run into trouble at some point? i'm just happy private school doesn't typically allow special education kids in plus since the parents are paying out the rear they tend to be more involved...













he hasn't even got a statement! he's not special needs, he just needs alot of work and a good routine, it is under control now. your not reading this post well are you, he's 5 now i just thought 2 and half was too early to exclude a child









woudl you feel that way if it was another child doing the things you son was too him? i'm going to guess u'd be up there trying to get the 'bad ' kid kicked out at least if you cared about your child which i can tell u do





he's not a bad "kid," before he had epilepsy he was a normal 2 year old, how would you feel if your son suddenly has grand mal siezures and 5 months down the line his behaviour has changed and your a single mum trying to earn a living and the nursery want to exclude him instead of helping me to find ways to deal with the situation. do you not think the nursery has a duty of care, to help a mother that needs support. it's not like he was like that since they had him, he started when he was 1 and half so it's not like they did not witness the change. do you not even think it strange how now he has the support he needs he has not been excluded. that is why i think it's wrong, the ones that do exclude obviously are shit and can't deal with a challange

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