Circumcision

Lizy - posted on 01/22/2014 ( 20 moms have responded )

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I think I should circumcise my son and so does my husband but something feels wrong. I know my husband is the one that should decide since he actually has one and he's happy being circumcised and don't I have to circumcise him since since we are catholic

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Danicia - posted on 01/25/2014

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my hubs and I did a lot of research about pros and cons of circumcision when we found out we have a boy on the way. we have decided not to circumcise him. why?
historically speaking circumcision has been a cultural/religious routine procedure. if you look back as to why circumcisions are performed, the medical "backing" changes about every 10-20+ years. Way back when it was done to prevent sexual urges, wet dreams, etc in males. now it's credited to lower penial cancer risk, transmission of STIs, etc. if you look at the numbers for penial cancer, the likelihood of any man getting it is close to 1% being that it is an extremely rare form of cancer. recently there have been studies that disprove circumcision affects the transmission of STIs. we asked our midwife about the pros to circumcision and she was unable to give any medical backing and referred to it as a cultural/religious practice.
I have heard cleanliness is harder to achieve if not circumcised. my response is it would be easier to keep women clean if they didn't have labias or vaginal lips. we don't cut those off for the sake of cleanliness. you just have to be adamant about making sure everything and teaching boy how to clean correctly.
my personal opinion is that circumcision is male genital mutilation. it is a healthy piece of skin with nerve endings that is cut off for no substantial medical reason. 68% of American families are choosing to not circumcise their sons nowadays and the majority of the world populous doesn't participate in circumcision. around 200 baby boys die a year from botched circumcisions. my husband is circumcised and agrees that no circumcision is best for our son b/c we have no cultural/religious backing saying it's the norm and research points to no medical gain from doing it.
you will make the best choice for your son and your family, wish you the best!

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It's a personal decision. There's nothing wrong with making either decision. You should do whatever you are most comfortable with

Alexander - posted on 03/06/2014

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I'm not a mom, but I am a father of a 3y old (not circumcised). Just to give you the perspective of an uncircumcised adult man. I've never had any problems like infections or UTI's. I'm European so all of my male relatives and most of my friends and colleagues are also uncircumcised. I have never heard of any of them having problems either. The only people I know who have had issues down there are incidentally women and they seem to manage fine. So you really should not worry.

Just don't mess with it too much. You shouldn't try to retract the foreskin when changing diapers (it is still fused to the glans), instead wipe it like a finger when cleaning and everything will be fine. Trying forcibly to retract the foreskin can damage the penis and cause conditions like Phimosis or infections.

Take care.

Michelle - posted on 01/25/2014

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If a man is going to catch a disease then he will regardless if he is circumcised or not. All men should know to use condoms to prevent diseases.
Also Namulwana: It's the foreskin that is cut off, not the scrotum.

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Baggins - posted on 04/23/2014

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?? Not sure what your first point is in aid of. My point was that there are reasons why the hospital reported circumcision rates are lower now other than a decline in the popularity of circumcision. The two main reasons are an increasing Hispanic population in some states (who traditionally do not circumcise) and shorter hospital stays meaning circumcisions are carried out after discharge more often now than in the past.

The only importance of this is that intactivists and their followers use the hospital figures to try to persuade parents that circumcision is going "out of fashion." Add to that the fact that Medicaid has stopped funding circumcision for poorer families (against the current advice of the CDC and AAP who say there that circumcision should be a choice available to all parents.)

Your claim that " the US is the only country in the developed world that chooses to lop of babies' natural body parts at such a high rate" is carefully worded to deceive, One third of boys are circumcised world wide. You ignore South Korea. You ignore the rising circumcision rate in Australia. And you ignore the entire Muslim and Jewish world.

And then you throw in the typical intactivist ridiculous comparison of male circumcision with female genital mutilation. What you fail to realise is that most people are familiar with male circumcision and know that arguments for and against are marginal at best. By comparing it to FGM you create the impression that the harm caused by FGM is marginal too. You are therefore dismissing the serious harm suffered by victims of FGM in order to "score a point". A fail at best, an encouragement for FGM at worst.

Jodi - posted on 04/22/2014

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Actually, Baggins, I think you need to learn to read statistics.
"68% of American families are choosing to not circumcise their sons nowadays" is not the same statistic as "80% of white (non-hipsanic) babies are being circumcised in the US"

Anyway, the US is the only country in the developed world that chooses to lop of babies' natural body parts at such a high rate. I'd hardly call it an equally valid choice. Would you consider circumcising your daughter at birth? The only difference is that one is legal and the other isn't/

With regard to this comment "It's a personal decision. There's nothing wrong with making either decision. You should do whatever you are most comfortable with"
That's right, it is the personal choice of the owner of the penis. THEY are the ones who have to feel comfortable with it. Not your penis, not your choice.

Baggins - posted on 04/22/2014

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Why do the foreskin fetishists always dominate these forums? Circumcision IS a valid choice for parents. It is NOT mutilation any more than removing teeth and fitting a brace for the purely cosmetic purpose of giving a child nice teeth is mutilation. The advantages of circumcision are not so great that it should be considered essential, but the disadvantages are also not so great that it should be dismissed out of hand.

The problem is that those who have jumped on the trendy anti-circumcision bandwagon regurgitate the "intactivist" lies and propoganda without any idea what they are saying.

Take Danicia (one of the "most helpful" posts!) for example.

"68% of American families are choosing to not circumcise their sons nowadays"

Really? This really is a blatant lie and yet it is spewed forth unchallenged. The truth is that around 80% of white (non-hipsanic) babies are being circumcised in the US, and even the national figure is around the 60% mark. A growing hispanic population and shorter stays in hospital which mean an increasing number of circumcisions are performed after discharge (circumcision figures are generally taken from hospital discharge records) skew the figures. Hispanic families have never been big on circumcision.

AND: "200 baby boys die a year from botched circumcisions"

More intactivist lies and propoganda designed to scare parents to serve their own agenda. Any death caused by circumcision is medical negligence since their is zero chance of a baby dieing from circumcision unless there is excessive bleeding (what moron doesn't notice a baby losing a cup full of blood??) or the procedure is performed under general anaesthetic (which is completely unnecessary with plastibell and circumcplast methods of circumcision. It is also painless when done properly (my five year old son watched "Pokemon - The Movie" on the nurses Iphone during his and was annoyed that it only took five minutes and the nurse wouldn't let him take her phone with him!) It healed in 10 days without any need for the stock of Calpol we had bought.

Unfortuantely this isn't possible after about the age of 8 as the skin is too thick. Healing then takes many weeks and requires the older boy or man to refrain from sex and masturbation all that time... which is difficult and frustrating for any young man!

And yet the intactivists flood the internet with pictures of mutilated penises and screaming babies. Scare tactics, nothing more than that.

And since ALL men lose a drop or two of urinating some time after urinating (the urethra isn't straight and retains a few drips which come out later), however well they wash their glans is bathed in urine soon afterwards, urine which quickly goes stale in that nice warm environment, providing great food for bacteria.

Circumcision certainly isn't essential, but equally it IS a valid choice for parents to make on behalf of their child. The intactivist lies should be challenged and good parents should check out the facts for themselves rather than lapping up the propoganda.

Mandy - posted on 03/07/2014

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My son was circumcised in the hospital on the second day due to choice. I felt absolutely terrible, they did numb him up before they sniped and he had to wear a plaster bell for a few days before it fell off. Overall I like the results, it just hurt my heart to hear him cry after the procedure.

Helen - posted on 01/29/2014

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i think you should stay with the decision what makes you feel more emotionally correct and comfortable. I circumcise my son just because it is an emotionally and religiously right decision for me. not anything else. so, after the circumcision, i don't regret and forgot about it already.

Reina - posted on 01/28/2014

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Hi there!, my son is now 4 yrs old and not circumcised. I was also was in the same position as you. And let me tell you there is nothing to worry about your son not being circumcised. Just like every mum wants is for there babies to be clean, So Hygiene is the key!! keep the area clean and dry when he is in diapers dont let him sit in a wet diaper too long (duhh) and bathe him every other day gently pulling the foreskin back and washing only with baby soap or just worm water. My nephew now 8 yrs old is circumcised and he still got urinary track Iinfection while growing up as a baby. So my thought is love, care, and hygiene no matter what direction you go.

Desiree - posted on 01/28/2014

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I did not circumcise my son. I guess we got influenced by my family and his. I just didn't want to hurt my baby like that. .. But to each their own. Do what you and your husband agree on :) As long as you teach him to keep it clean, he should have no issues.

Jodi - posted on 01/25/2014

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Instead of worrying about an uncircumcised man catching diseases, you teach him to use a condom, not chop off body parts. Simple. You don't remove a child's tonsils at birth as a preventative measure, you shouldn't chop off part of a penis as a preventative measure either.

Namulwana - posted on 01/25/2014

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Chet,here we are likely to contract many diseases once some one is not circumcised.
Now like sexually transimmited diseases easily enjoy sleeping in the scrotum.....
And there some people who don't know how to clean it properly,that's why it's easy to contract the disease.

Chet - posted on 01/25/2014

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This is very regional...

We live in Canada, and there are parts of Canada where you can hardly find a doctor who'll do it. In the province where our sons were born only about 5% of baby boys are circumcised, and you have to pay for it yourself since it's considered medically unnecessary.

Similarly, circumcision rates are very low in the UK. It's my understanding that less than 5% of baby boys are being circumcised there. Many countries in Europe and South America have circumcision rates that are less than 15%.

And in countries with low circumcision rates there are not a lot of health problems associated with being uncircumcised. It's just normal. So be aware that this is more cultural than medically necessary.

Michelle - posted on 01/23/2014

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Not true Katie, as long as boys are taught to look after it then there's no difference.

Katie - posted on 01/22/2014

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Yes, look up statistics it's cleaner less infection bacteria and embarrassment

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