Gun as a gift to a 4 year old!

Amber - posted on 12/21/2009 ( 99 moms have responded )

20

29

1

My husband did all of the shopping for X-mas this year. He would not tell me what he got our two boys for X-mas. He wanted it to be a surprise for all of us. Well I was l looking at the box, and it hit me what it was. I thought it was pelt gun, but he told me it was a Youth 22 Rifle. Our oldest son is almost 5 and that is who the gun is for. I was so mad when I found out. I don't think a 5 year old is old enough to have a real gun. He has a 14 year old cousin that just shot himself in the foot with a rifle over Thanksgiving holidays. If that can happen to a 14 year old then something much worse could happen to a 5 year old. We also have a 2 year old that something could happen to. I told him he had to take it back and he said NO! I want to break the thing so bad. He told me that he was the man the man of the house and it was his decision. But I think that a gift like that should be talked about between husband and wife before it is bought. What do ya'll think?

MOST HELPFUL POSTS

Jackie - posted on 12/23/2009

41

13

2

My son will be 4 in Janurary and has a 30-06, a 12 guage and a .22. Just because he has them dose not mean that he plays with them and handles them everyday. They are in our gun safe with the rest of our guns. He gets to shoot them when his dad or I is there to help him. I think its important to start teaching kids at a young age gun safty. I would be more concerned with the "I'm the man of the house" attitude coming from your husband. Big decions deffentaly need to be talked about.

Brandi - posted on 12/27/2009

780

12

106

My kids are 4 and 2 and I don't even allow them to play with TOY guns, let alone an actual gun. My neighbor's son had a toy gun and loaned it to my daughter to play with. I was in the yard with them and didn't say anything at first until I took one look at my precious angel holding a "gun." My stomach turned so hard and I wanted to cry. I couldn't take it, and made her give it back to the neighbor with the explanation that guns are not nice toys and that she isn't permitted to play with them. Just the thought of a CHILD with something that represents a deadly weapon, to me, sends every fiber of my being to scream NO THAT ISN"T RIGHT!!!! Children are the personification of innocence, in my opinion. I feel that your husband should have DEFINITELY discussed this issue with you prior to purchasing a weapon for your child.

Sarah - posted on 12/21/2009

14

12

2

I've been there! When I first got together with my ex, my oldest son was 2. I told him "there will be NO guns in my house" and he told me "there will ALWAYS be guns in my house"... this posed a problem. I compromised, NO TOY GUNS! Well for Christmas, our first Christmas together his friends whom I had just met were kind enough to buy gifts for my son, they didn't know the rule, my solution, I couldn't vary well say take it back, instead I looked at my bf (at the time) and said "You will teach the kids absolutely EVERYTHING there is to know about guns, the Reality of guns and Gun Safety!" My children are NOT allowed to point guns at people. They have targets set up all over the house and that is what they shoot at with their toy guns, even toy guns that don't propel anything. My ex father in law bought him a .22 rifle later that year. Now, my youngest son who will be 5 in 2 days, has shot more guns than I have and more often than I have and I am active duty military who has been to war! Guns can be a great stress reliever, it can become a talent and it can ultimately be a skill that they can use to make money, make food, or use to protect themselves and their family. It is also something that can teach them a great deal about discipline and the reality of life and death! All in all, I think it has been a very positive experience for my children... this from the girl who said "there will never be guns in my house!"... as long as dad is willing to make the commitment to teach them the reality of guns, real guns, then I say yes, go for it! It could be a great experience for the whole family. This became especially important to me when I was home alone with my 2 boys, asleep in our beds when someone attempted to kick our door in at 2am! its scary, what would have happened if they got in, I didn't have a means to protect myself! and if I did have a gun, was I comfortable enough with it and using it that I could have hit my target anyways! An alarming percentage of trained police officers miss their target more than they hit it in the heat of the moment, because they aren't comfortable shooters under stress! sorry for the essay! I hope it helps

Stevie - posted on 12/21/2009

425

44

46

Hmm I wonder how much of a man he would feel like explaining why his two year old had its eye shot out to the ER doctor... Tell him if he wants to be such a "man" he should protect his childrens safety, and remind him you are the WOMAN of the house and as such it's your duty to protect your babies! I'm sure he's not a bad person but that is a terrible decision and even worse excuse.. I would break it or throw it away if he refuses to take it back after a serious safety discussion.

This conversation has been closed to further comments

99 Comments

View replies by

Try - posted on 10/09/2012

21

0

0

Well, I think you're both acting ridiculous, but yeah, this is something you should have talked about first.

Ruth - posted on 01/02/2010

27

17

1

A Word on Gun Safety... I know scrolling down I saw a couple of people suggest perhaps a nerf gun or soemthing as a substitute... but if you're teaching a child about gun safety... Never Ever get them a toy gun of any kind, because a toy gun doens't hurt so they child would then disassociate the damage a gun does to the weapon itself... and also as soon as a child is able to walk and talk they are able to learn gun safety. and please check out http://www.nrahq.org/safety/eddie/infopa... for more info on it.



Now on the other hand if both parents can't agree on whether or not to get then you do not purchase the weapon. but that's just my opinion

Kristin - posted on 01/01/2010

7

9

0

No man is the man of the house with that domineering attitude! You just chuck it in the garbage or return it to wal-mart (they'll take anything back) Or you could compromise and put it away until you feel comfortable with him having it. (maybe never maybe a few years from now. You should try getting the opinion of fellow males who hunt and such but don't feel a real gun is appropriate to a child of five. Maybe with their opinion it will sway your husband. But push comes to shove, your child's life is more important than your husband. If he doesn't agree its just going to have to be your way. Do what you gotta do! Good luck!

Tamara - posted on 01/01/2010

3

14

0

I think it's ok that he bought your son a gun as long as your husband teaches him gun safety and takes him out and shows him how to properly load and shoot the gun. And lets him know that it is NOT a TOY...that a gun is something to be respected and to always be treated as if it was loaded. (Though I definitely think he should have discussed it with you first and that it should have been a mutual decision!) I was one of the biggest anti-gun in my home types and my husband went out and bought a handgun behind my back. After getting over the initial anger of him doing it behind my back, I eventually calmed down. I made him take me out and show me how to load and fire the gun, just in case. And told him that as soon as our son is old enough to comprehend what a gun is, that he is going to take him to the gun range and show him the same thing. It also helps that he bought a gun safe to store the gun, so that it's not where our son could just find it. I hope that my reply has helped you!

Amber - posted on 12/31/2009

20

29

1

Quoting angela:

I do think it is interesting that the gun debate is so new and yet so many have such strong opinions. It is only recently in this country that guns have not been the norm. I think your partner was just not thinking. He was excited and did not think to talk to you. what would have to happen for you to be comfortable with the situation? Also why is is so important for him to buy it for the child? It might be a rite of passage for his family.


Your right he was not thinking. He still wants to give the gun to him, but I'm still say no. I'm not against guns, just not ready nor is my son ready to have a gun. He didn't talk to me about it because he knew I would say no. He wrapped it up right after he got home with it and would not tell what it was. I figured it out though. I have told him that he could have it when he was a little older. When he is 6 or 7 I will put him gun safety classes so he can learn how to handle a gun and learn how dangerous a gun can be. I also told my husband that he has to take him hunting a shoot a deer or some other game to show him that I gun will kill a living being. He has never seen anything killed. He does know not to touch a gun at all. No it is not a right of passage for his family. His mother and father where ready to kill him when they found out he had bought the gun. My husband didn't even shoot his fist gun until he was 17 years old. I shot my first gun when I was 12 or 13, and my father taught everything there is know about guns before he let me shoot one. My son knows very little about guns other than they are dagerous and not toys to be played with.

[deleted account]

I do think it is interesting that the gun debate is so new and yet so many have such strong opinions. It is only recently in this country that guns have not been the norm. I think your partner was just not thinking. He was excited and did not think to talk to you. what would have to happen for you to be comfortable with the situation? Also why is is so important for him to buy it for the child? It might be a rite of passage for his family.

Kelly - posted on 12/30/2009

27

10

3

A 5-year-old is DEFINITELY too little to have a gun. I MIGHT get a nerf gun or a suction-cup dart gun, but not a pellet gun and certainly not a 22 rifle!!!!

Courtney - posted on 12/30/2009

1

4

0

You are completely right about this hands down! He should have talked about this with you before even thinking about buying the gun. I have two boys myself and their father already bought both of them a BB gun at ages 4 and 7 which totally freaked me out! Guns are dangerous period and should be left to the adults who are trained to handle them, not little kids who are just learning to use a pencil!

Patricia - posted on 12/30/2009

91

86

3

I agree with you Amber. You should wait till he is older to give him the gun. I do not know much about guns, and I do not have any. My husband collects swords not guns. They are stored away and are not toys either. My husband loves that game, he is addicited! He plays it ALL the time! I know you are a great mom and want the best for your children. I know in time you will make the right decision.

Amber - posted on 12/30/2009

20

29

1

Quoting Ashley:

also, a 22 really cant do a whole lot of damage, it can hurt, but its not the same as a 20,12, or even a 10 gauge. ive grown up with them my whole life... if you pretend they dont exist or talk about them, its just going to make your boy more curious, and want to play with it,AND THEN thats when accidents happen. beopen about them and answer questions. take them hunting (duck or goose is best to learn) and show them what a gun can do and how they should be handled. my baby isnt born yet and she already has 3 guns.... i think it will help in the long run...


I agree with you on some points, but as another mother said it depends on the child. I know my son is not ready to handle a gun. I told my husband the only way I will let him have a gun is if he goes to safety classes and he has to take him hunting with him and kill and animal to show him how dangerous a gun really is. He has seen us both shoot our gun, but never been with us hunting. Maybe in a couple of years I will let him have it, but not right now. He still has the mind set that guns are toys. I think that is because his dad plays Call of Duty. You say a 22 can't do much damage, but it can still kill someone if they are shot in the right place. I know they are not as powerful as most guns. I have a 270 and my husband has a 300. We also have a shot gun and two hand guns. I would ratheer not take a chance with my kids safety. Like you said accidents happen. Accidents hppen with adults all the time, and with a child it is 3 times as likely to happen.

Amber - posted on 12/30/2009

20

29

1

Quoting KeAiria:

Your husband should of talked with you before buying the gift, but i wasnt a bad decision on his part. my son is two and already knows guys can hurt people but we dont tell him they are bad. My husband and i both own a handgun and have a shot gun in the house. My son, one day, saw my hand gun on our bed while i was cleaning it and he look at me and said "dont touch." When he is 4 he can start shooting a 22 rifle that his dad started shooting at the same age. My dad started letting me shoot at 6. My point is you can bring kids up around guns and its safe as long as you lock them up and keep them on safe, and when you do take them shooting for the first time, take a mellon with you and draw a face on it and show them what a gun can do to someones head if you point it at them, it helps make that point for you.


I totally agree with you all that teaching a child proper gun safety. Both of our children know we have guns in the house, but they are all locked up in a gun safe. They kow they are not allowed to even touch the gun safe. I have talked with my oldest and told him that guns real guns are not toys and can hurt someone really bad They both have toy guns, but the only thing they are allowed to shoot are targets or the walls. They are not even allowed to point the guns at ech other. I feel if you teach them it is ok to point and shoot each other with toy guns they may feel the same about a real gun. I don't want to fear guns but I want them to respects the power of guns.

Ashley - posted on 12/28/2009

51

35

3

also, a 22 really cant do a whole lot of damage, it can hurt, but its not the same as a 20,12, or even a 10 gauge. ive grown up with them my whole life... if you pretend they dont exist or talk about them, its just going to make your boy more curious, and want to play with it,AND THEN thats when accidents happen. beopen about them and answer questions. take them hunting (duck or goose is best to learn) and show them what a gun can do and how they should be handled. my baby isnt born yet and she already has 3 guns.... i think it will help in the long run...

Ashley - posted on 12/28/2009

51

35

3

ok, yes your husband should have asked, but, as an avid hunter/fisher myself, i dont see a problem with a 5 year old having a 22. i think it will teach your son gun safety at an early age, which is very smart. there are also gun safety/ hunter safety courses out there to teach them that guns are not toys and should be taken seriously. they will show him how to properly and saftely use it and good info like that. contact your local DNR (department of natural resources) about the next available class.....

Kimberly - posted on 12/28/2009

37

16

2

a five year old does NOT need a rifle under ANY circumstances! if your husband wont take it back you need to get rid of it yourself. and honey, that "man of the house" bullshit went out the door with high top sneakers!! if its going to cause problems in your marrige, you need to sit down and do some SERIOUS soul searcing...whats more important....your husband's ego or your precious child's life?? unfortunatly, this issue is more than just a bad christmas gift...if your husband refuses to respect your wishes about this serious and possibly dangerous and life threatening issue, you need consider all of your options requarding your marrige!!

KeAiria - posted on 12/28/2009

11

8

0

Your husband should of talked with you before buying the gift, but i wasnt a bad decision on his part. my son is two and already knows guys can hurt people but we dont tell him they are bad. My husband and i both own a handgun and have a shot gun in the house. My son, one day, saw my hand gun on our bed while i was cleaning it and he look at me and said "dont touch." When he is 4 he can start shooting a 22 rifle that his dad started shooting at the same age. My dad started letting me shoot at 6. My point is you can bring kids up around guns and its safe as long as you lock them up and keep them on safe, and when you do take them shooting for the first time, take a mellon with you and draw a face on it and show them what a gun can do to someones head if you point it at them, it helps make that point for you.

Patricia - posted on 12/28/2009

91

86

3

I totally agree with you. A gun is a totally inappropriate gift for a 5 year old, especially when there is a 2 year old in the house also. I don't like guns period. He definitely should have talked to you before going out and getting the gun.

Alicia - posted on 12/28/2009

17

10

1

I agree that he shouldnt have the gun but if there is no way to take it back then please take lots of precautions... keep it out of reach and only bring it down with strong supervision and the youngest one is not in sight thats my thoughts on the situation....

Krystal - posted on 12/28/2009

17

0

3

I say no NO and No to the whole gun thing, I dont hunt. I have 3 boys 10, 7, and 5. Toy guns, pellet guns, bb guns down to water guns, they are not allowed to play with guns in any shape or form. Pretending a toy is a gun is a no go here, I have friends that run their own shops, I have friends that carry openly, I have friends that are on Police forces, The guns dont come into my home, My friends leave there weapons elsewhere before entering my home out of respect for my home rules and for my children. That man of the house crap wouldnt have flown with me... lol, someone would have been sleepin on the couch, good to know he apologized and you had family support on the issue. 5 is too young for a child to have a gun of any sort in their hands.

Alana - posted on 12/28/2009

76

32

1

i think thats hurrendous. when i first saw your question before reading it through i thort, over reacting its only a gun (thinin u meant a toy) , but a real, one?! no this is completely inaproriate, i would get it out of his way till he is atleast 16 unless he is under supervision, i wouldnt let hij use it supervied till he is 11 or 12

Sarmala - posted on 12/28/2009

2

0

0

Absolutely...One parent should not be dominat over the other, you need to stand together on a united front with parently if you want to have clear boundarys and want the kids to understand those boundarys...My children are not permitted to play with guns real or toy full stop. I believe that they serve one purpose and one purpose only and that is to kill and so I do not condone it but to buy a 5 year old a gun is reckless and irresponsible, they do not have the ability to conceptulise in their brain the responsibility that goes along with using a gun. If you husband had respect for you as his wife he would understand that while he doesn't agree with you that you are have a valid concern for your child and that while he may be, you are not comfortable with the consequences of what could potentially happen and it is not fair for him to make the decision on your behalf that you are going to live with those consequences.

Claudia - posted on 12/27/2009

10

2

0

throw it away, that's what I'd do, mad honey? tell him I'd be madder if somethin bad would happen to the kids, he could even hit you! but seriously get rid of that thing,I'm telling you mom to mom, my husband it's just like yours but I put my foot down when it comes to the kids safety.

Chrystie - posted on 12/27/2009

18

26

1

I totally agree that is something that needed to be discussed between the two of you, but also that is a totally inappropriate gift for a 5 year old. I have an 8 year old nephew and ask any of us how many "toy" guns he's had?...NONE!! I think that they are not meant for children fake or real. Does anyone watch the news anymore? Its like you said, a cousin hurt himself...that was very inconsiderate on his part.

Jammie - posted on 12/27/2009

16

35

2

OK weather there is another child in a house or not a 5 year old does NOT need a house full of gun(s). Your husband needs a wake up call from you. This isn't a matter of what to get a child for christmas. It is a matter of controll. You need to get controll ASAP before something bad happens......

User - posted on 12/27/2009

1,438

0

244

I agree that you should not "play" guns or pretend to shoot at people. You only aim at what you want to kill. As a child, they should never be allowed to handel a firearm (real or BB) without an appropriate adult closely supervising and permission. My nephews even at 11 years old know better than to even touch the outside our gun cabinet without my husband right there. We have all of our firearms in a gun cabinet, locked. The key is stored in a hidden spot. The ammo is stored in another place under a different lock and key, and the mags for the guns are stored in a 3rd spot under again a different lock and key. Each gun also has a triggor lock on them. This way we know that they are more safe from our son as well as anyone else that should not be touching them.

[deleted account]

that's right guns don't kill people, the little bullets that come out of them do!!!!! OMG I wouldn't even if a 5 year old a fake gun! I am a preschool teacher and at my school we are not allowed to play guns at all, they hurt people! Hide it, break it, do whatever, don't let your son play with it!

Sarah - posted on 12/27/2009

185

8

5

Quoting Sarah:

Yes your husband should have talked to you about this, your married and make mutual decisions. I thought my nephews having be-be guns and getting bow and arrows for Christmas was bad (they'll be 9 and 7 a few days after Christmas). Try talking to your husband about your worries and what could possibly happen if he gives him it. Good luck, I hope everything works out for the safety of your family,



Also, one of my cousins who is 14 has been obessed with guns since he was 2. He's mother was soon againsted toy guns that now he plays tons of wars video games, wants tons of guns, and even want to work at a gun factory. I think whatever you believe is your business, but don't over obess about "no toy guns" becuase then the child will be totally obessed and wondering why their such a big deal, like children who are told no to even talk about anything to do with sex, It gets in their heads.

T_cjones108 - posted on 12/27/2009

340

50

60

iam sorry BUT IS HE FUCKING NUTTS!!!!!!!! wow!!! no WAY our boy would ever get a gun at 5!!!! or even 9!!!!!!! these days toy guns look like real guns!!! and with a younger child at home not the best idea!!!!!
if he doesnt want to take it back then u can buy a "gun cabinet"it locks and that way u can store them locked away then give it to ur son in a few years!!! i was raised with NO gun at alllllll toy or real, i dont want my son to grow up not knowing about guns so he will be "trained" (my father inlaw teaches the gun safty course) but the is the right time and age to give ur kid a "deadly weapon" as a toy!!!!!!!!!!!!

Holly - posted on 12/27/2009

3

11

0

A child that does not the mental capacity to know how to handle a weapon, much less a gun, should not be given one. At that age, they can barely comprehend right from wrong much less the consequences of any actions that are taken because of them. You know your child better than anyone and you should know his mental capabilities. This is not the only issue in your post however. Your husband needs to understand that were are beyond "the man of the house" rules that were prevelant prior to the 70s. The home is a partnership and one parent should never outweigh the other one. Every decision made in a household should be up to both parents and an agreement with or a compromise with each.

User - posted on 12/27/2009

1,438

0

244

That sounds like something my husband would get for our son. My husband is real big into hunting and shooting as a sport. He is also the biggest anal retentive person I know for safety. As long as they know how to PROPERLY and SAFELY use one... Even adults shouldn't touch one unless they know how to properly and safely handel one. You start teaching them young...a gun is nothing to fear. The gun will never hurt anyone, it is the person behind the gun that does the damage.
I do agree though that your husband should have talked to you about it first, especially if you are not in the same mind frame about fire arms as he is.

Danielle - posted on 12/27/2009

778

25

110

If he wants to be the "man of the house" tell him to take out the trash!

Personally, I do not agree, nor do I abide gender specific "roles" of the house. My fiance and I refer to each others for all major household decisions. I absolutely think that the purchase of a gun for a 5 year old is insane, and you are right to have wanted a consultation with your spouse before the purchase.
I know in my experience, we've never had guns in our house. My parents didn't allow anything more complex than a water gun. I think guns are to much of an adult concept.

Nyree - posted on 12/27/2009

17

20

3

i dont even think toy guns are apropriate. they were desined to hurt people and i would never buy a toy for my son to teach him to hurt people. not even in play. i have told all my family and friends and made it clear that i dont wnat anyone giving him toy guns as a gift. so NO TO GUNS REAL OR NOT TO ANY AGE> why teach them to hurt and kill from a young age?

Seri - posted on 12/26/2009

2

11

0

oh my gosh! i would have been ferious!! That is an awful big responsibility for such a small child. Children that age do not understand cause and effect and that there are some things in the world you just cannot do. like pointing a gun at your younger sibling. They dont understand that their actions could potentioally seriously hurt someone. Im sure everything will be fine, but i am a mom that is always prepaired for the sky to fall cause, "What if. . . . ." i definatly think that that should have been talked about before he decided to make a huge decision like that that could affect alot more than just the 5 year old.

Desire - posted on 12/26/2009

47

30

5

this is why you dont let the men do the shopping. ya if my husband told me that he is the man of the house and its his decision i would tell him well you better decided what is more important the gun or your kids cuz i swear if you dont get rid of it consider us gone. im not going to give our almost 5 year old a god damn gun.

Jacquelyn - posted on 12/26/2009

61

11

3

OMG way too young! And I totally agree a gun for your child should always be discussed even for a teenager. That's my opinion though...

Catherine - posted on 12/26/2009

5

27

0

i agree with you when i was little my friend dad brought him a gun on easter and he shot me and we were there same age we were 5year old i was shot in the knee and still today i still have the bullet in my knee it stuck in my knee cap. if the bullet was taken out i will never walk again .

Melinda - posted on 12/26/2009

18

37

3

As a woman married to a hunter and a hunter myself with three kids and many guns, I have to agree with you that 5 is way too young for a gun. although I believe that kids who are in houses with guns should be taught at an early age the dangers of guns, a child at the age of 5 cannot possibly handle the responsibilities of a gun. Maybe you could ask your husband to wait at least 3 years when the child is old enough to undewrstand the responsibilities also, you could maybe present it to your husband that you would like your child to go through a youth gun class or hunter's safety (even if you don't hunt, as they teach proper gun handling and safety) before they own their own gun. Good luck!

Amber - posted on 12/26/2009

20

29

1

Quoting Samantha:

A gift like that should be talked about as a couple, i absolutly hate seeing little kids with even toy guns. If your husband isnt gonna take it back you need to ask your family to have a word with him, but dont make it as though you are ganging up on him cos he will only take it out on you. Good luck


When we all found out about (myself, his family, and my family) we wanted to kill him. His mother and father talked to him. His mother was so mad the first day she wouldn't even talk to him. She was also pissed that he pulled "I'm the man of the house" bull crap. She told him that he needed to grow up and act like a real man. I was glad I had both sides of the family on my side. It helped out a lot, and the day before X-mas he apologized to me for not talking with me about it and acting like a total jerk

Amber - posted on 12/26/2009

20

29

1

Quoting Tamika:

My partner would not have disrespected me like that so for you husband to do so is beyond me. Someone said in an earlier post that the issue is not the gun but your husband and I agree. I dont really agree with a 4 year old having a gun of any type, but the real issue is the man u married. You have to put your foot down, I am sure this is not the first time he just blow u off with the i am man hear me roar attitude. If you dont nip that soon you sons will grow to do the same to you and their partners.

My son is 8 and the first toy gun he got was 2 halloweens ago when he was Jack Sparrow and as soon as trick or treating was over it went in the garbage. He has been begging us for nerf guns for years, my partner would love to get them for him, but because I am not comfortable with boys thinking guns are toys he does not get them. He wont even get my son a water gun.


This is the first time he has pulled "I'm the mn of the house" crap. Be glad you were not here that day. It got ugly over that bit. He didn't get the gun for Christmas. It is locked up it the gun safe and he finally after two days of talking and fighting some he caved. He will get the gu when WE both think he is old enough to understand how to handle it. They both got nerf gun for X-mas, but they can only shoot the walls and that is it. My 2 year old has done better with that rule than my 4 year old has (he will be 5 Jan. 22). My 5 year old shot his brother in the head about 2 hours ago with it and laughed. I took it away and told him he could have it back tomorrow if hecan behave. That shows me that he is not ready for a real gun yet. To other post about him not being by himself with the gun is besides the point. He is not old enough to handle the responibily of a real gun. I told my husband to take him hunting with him when he is a little older (maybe 6 or 7) and let him see him kill and animal so that he will understand that it is very dangerous. He has to do that before he is allowed to have the gun.

Mattee - posted on 12/26/2009

229

49

9

My husband and I have already decided what age is appropriate for guns; we decided 8 ONLY with adult supervision, until legal age to hunt, and here's why: I have 3 younger brothers, and my dad got my brother just younger than me a pump pellet/BB gun when he was 8, I was 9 and we had 4 and 1 year old brothers, at the time also. One day myself, the 8 year old and the 4 year old were just outside the kitchen door on the back porch shooting the gun; we were supposed to stay close where my dad could see us... My 8 year old brother told the 4 year old to go and stand about 50 yards away and let him shoot him in the butt. The 4 year old ran the distance and turned his backside to us. Meanwhile the 8 year old pumped away on the gun. He asked the younger one if he was ready and he said "yes". As he squeezed off the trigger our younger brother turned and faced us. The seemingly harmless pellet gun turned into a deadly weapon, and the pellet went through his sternum and nicked his pulminary artery, causing him to go into cardiac arrest. He was rushed to the hospital an hour away and had to be recusitated 2 times in transit. From that hospital he was lifeflighted by helicopter to a childrens hospital another half hour away, where he crashed again and had to once again be recusitated; the sack around his heart was filling with bllod and squeezing his heart so hard that it wasn't able to pump. He under went emergency open heart surgery. He survived, but it was so close; too close to turning the wrong way.... .22 rifles are much more powerful and much bigger than a pellet or BB gun. I wouln't chance it... I would get rid of the gun or put it away for 8 or 9 years... The call us up to you but would you really want to put your son or someoene else's life in danger???

DeEtte - posted on 12/26/2009

2

23

0

Woah!! I totally agree with you in your post. Does your husband realize that if the 5 year old harmed or killed himself or someone else with that gun, that you both could be charged with murder; with your husband getting a stiffer sentence because he was the one who provided him the gun. Regardless of your husband being the man of the house, his actions are totally irresponsible. As the mother and the wife, you should get rid of the gun if your husband doesn't. Which would you rather cry over; an angry husband or a dead child? Research firearm/gun deaths of children and by children and share the information with your husband. Also contact your local police department and district attorneys office and ask them about such a situation and what the criminal implications are for you, your husband, and your child; share that information with your husband. Good luck. Get rid of the gun ASAP.

Nicholle - posted on 12/26/2009

23

5

0

a gift like that should be discussed between both parents PERIOD!and once agreed upon...with gun safety lessons and careful oversight by a professional and the understanding that guns should be locked away in a vault at all times and only taken out by the parents when the time is right...it could be a very rewarding experience.i started shooting guns with my dad when i was almost four years old,and when my father thought i was ready i got my first gun(a lever-action henry youth .22 lr rimfire hunting rifle) for my sixth birthday and not a day before.my dad made sure i knew all the hazards and safety for guns for a couple years before i ever received my own.with the knowledge of proper use and storage of guns,and your own judgment of your child's capabilities and understanding of proper use of a firearm..it should be just fine,but only you can be the judge of whether or not your child is ready.my son is five years old and i know he isn't ready yet.my daughter is two and she seems more ready than my oldest.next year i'm going to take her to some gun safety lessons and gauge her competence level.every child is different.if you feel that your child is not even close as to being ready...you stand up and say so!don't back down and don't compromise!good luck and take care!

Samantha - posted on 12/26/2009

5

5

0

A gift like that should be talked about as a couple, i absolutly hate seeing little kids with even toy guns. If your husband isnt gonna take it back you need to ask your family to have a word with him, but dont make it as though you are ganging up on him cos he will only take it out on you. Good luck

Mandy - posted on 12/25/2009

54

54

6

Quoting dorothy :

i totally agree.. i have a 6 month old son and his dad recently bought a glock. he keeps it taken apart and locked up and ONLY he has a key for it.. and before he got it we talked about it for a few months about how we would go about it when our son got older we both agree that kids should have gun saftey awareness. and we both agree that a young kid is not responsible enough to own a gun. i mean ya.. if you guys do a lot of camping or hunting then maybe but not just for everyday use if you know what i mean



Totally Agree!!!!

Melissa - posted on 12/25/2009

1

1

0

No the gun is not appropriate! I completely agree. My sons dad wants to do the same for my 4 year old, but I said no. He knows I will hurt him if he tries!

Jade - posted on 12/25/2009

244

53

36

Why would you even want to get a kid a present like that he cant even use? Why not just wait til he is old enough to use it and give it to him then?

As for your husband disrespecting you with a decision like that, i would never be able to put up with a man who had no respect for me and my feelings on such a major issue like that

Tamika - posted on 12/25/2009

259

49

4

My partner would not have disrespected me like that so for you husband to do so is beyond me. Someone said in an earlier post that the issue is not the gun but your husband and I agree. I dont really agree with a 4 year old having a gun of any type, but the real issue is the man u married. You have to put your foot down, I am sure this is not the first time he just blow u off with the i am man hear me roar attitude. If you dont nip that soon you sons will grow to do the same to you and their partners.



My son is 8 and the first toy gun he got was 2 halloweens ago when he was Jack Sparrow and as soon as trick or treating was over it went in the garbage. He has been begging us for nerf guns for years, my partner would love to get them for him, but because I am not comfortable with boys thinking guns are toys he does not get them. He wont even get my son a water gun.

Sharita - posted on 12/25/2009

11

18

0

thats your household..but mine thats a no no...my son is 7 and i dont even let him play with water guns

Melissa - posted on 12/25/2009

1

13

0

wow girl i agree i would be upset as well thats just crazy all these things that come out on the news about accidental shootings aand on top of it you have a younger boy as well who god forbid can get his hands on it. if i were you i would return it.

Ashley - posted on 12/25/2009

29

16

2

my husband hunts and traps, My daughter will be 4 in jan, and already has a 22. everytime we go to the store she asks is she can get a new gun. my son who will be 2 in a couple days has 2 guns already. I believe that it is good for them. my kids are not old enough to shoot them but when they are 6 or 7 they will take the hunter safty course and get to take their gus hunting. I think that it is okay as long as you as a parent keep and eye on them, and your husband teaches them gun safty this day on.

Join Circle of Moms

Sign up for Circle of Moms and be a part of this community! Membership is just one click away.

Join Circle of Moms