immunise or not

Katie - posted on 06/28/2009 ( 61 moms have responded )

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im trying to decide whether to immunise my son or not. is there any one who has decided agaisnt it?

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Guggie - posted on 06/28/2009

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Here is a list I made so that parents can learn more about the vaccine issue and make an informed choice that is best for their child:



If you are reading this list for the first time do not get overwhelmed! Take a deep breath and remember: You do not have to follow the doctor’s schedule for vaccinating your baby. You are well within your rights to delay until you can make an informed choice. This is your child, and your child deserves a well-educated decision, which can only be achieved by viewing all sides of an issue and then choosing the path that is best for your child.



When you are done being introduced to the subject, how do you know when you have researched enough to make a decision? Many people in vaccine debate have researched for years and thousands of hours. That is not necessary if all you need to do is take a basic risk assessment for your own children. You know you have learned a good amount when you can answer these questions:



1. What is the name of the disease and its common terms

2. What is the description of the disease

3. What is the length of time from initial infection to end of all symptoms

4. How long is the infectious period and how is it spread

5. What are the normal symptoms of the disease

6. What are the known serious consequences of the disease

7. What is the proportion of persons infected developing serious consequences

8. What is the transmission route of the disease

9. What is the prevalence of the disease

10. What are the allopathic and homeopathic treatments of the disease and what is the efficacy of those treatments

11. Have you done relevant research about the disease

12. What is the name of the vaccine

13. What company makes the vaccine

14. What are the listed contents of the vaccine

14 What is the significance of whether or not the vaccine is live and is it

15. What is history of the development of the vaccine

16. What are the known side-effects of the vaccine and rate of incidence of those side-effects

17. What are possible side-effects not yet acknowledged by the vaccine maker

18. Have you done relevant research into the vaccine

19. How effective is the vaccine at preventing the disease

20.What is the vaccine meant to do (Many vaccines are not meant to prevent infection or transmission).

21.What are the number of cases reported each year.

22.What are the number of deaths reported each year from the vaccine and natural disease.



History





I am a third generation, fully vaccinated (up to the 1980s 2yo schedule) mom to a 7.5 month old daughter. No one in my extended family questioned vaccines until I came along. I suffered a severe reaction to my DTaP vaccine after experiencing smaller reactions each step of the way from 2 months onwards. My mom believed my doctor when he assured her that it was a coincidence and encouraged her to continue vaccinating me. That I am still here after my biggest reaction is a miracle, and it was also the starting point for my mom to begin researching. As I was suffering grand mal seizures one after another for a 48hr period, the doctor looked at me, then turned to her and said it wasn’t the vaccines. She left to find her own answers. Her journey led her to find things she could not accept and because of that all of my siblings are vaccine free.



When I was ten, I started reading from her bookshelf and found a book written by Viera Scheibner, now out of print. It was an analysis of cot death in Australia. The researchers accidentally stumbled across the vaccine debate when they were attempting to observe infants for more information on how to prevent cot death, known as SIDS in America. The scientific data in that book was my starting point in what has turned into 13 years of research on the vaccine theory from all viewpoints, medical, scientific, psychological, spiritual and cultural. Here is her website: http://www.vierascheibner.org/index.php?...



Below I have gathered a collection of links so that other parents can make an informed decision before vaccinating their children and not after, as my mom had to do. Too many times I have heard of parents who learned about vaccines AFTER their children suffered. Hindsight is 20/20 for them, and for many the information came too late. Here is a thread for those who Regret vaccinating their children before making an informed choice: http://www.mothering.com/discussions/sho...



Since I was very young, I have harbored a desire to work in the medical field. My dream is to complete my degrees in Clinical Psychology and Neuroscience and then attend medical school. So my focus in the vaccine subject is primarily medicine and science. I prefer clinical studies as a resource. That being said, the ability to interpret and break down raw statistical information and the process of analyzing a hypothesis is not what most people consider interesting or possible. Therefore I will include more palatable resources for you to begin looking at other perspectives before tackling the actual studies. Another reason for this is that most of the studies cost money or require a medical license number to view.



What’s in the Numbers



If you are new to this, the first place to begin is with the cold, hard numbers. Research the disease incidence, the death rates, the vaccine injury cases, etc.



Here is a graph showing the decline of common diseases and when vaccines were introduced:



http://www.vaccinationdebate.com/web1.ht...



Here is a page to the CDC. Take a look and see the number of cases that are current for this year:



http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/mmwr_wk.html



If you download the current issue it gives you the most recent statistic the CDC currently has on all reportable diseases, vaccine related or not. (This information will be at the end of the document.) Understanding your child’s risk for all diseases and not just vaccine related a disease is important for context.





But just to give you an idea:



Here are the hard numbers for 2007 reported by the CDC:



Disease Cases



Diptheria 0

Measles 28

Mumps 707

Rubella 12

Congenital rubella 0

Tetanus 19

Hib (under 5)

Sero b-17

Non sero b-141

Unknown b-187

Out of a population of over 300 million people in America.



If you check it now, you will see the number of cases for the year as of now. To be specific, as of last Friday; they update the list on Fridays or weekends.



Remember it is a cumulative list. It is not that many cases per week. It's the year to date.



Deaths



To find out the reported number of deaths, visit the CDC’s website here and type in which disease you are interested in learning about:



http://wonder.cdc.gov/



If you haven't done much research and this is the first time you've poked around in these files you will be probably shocked by how small a number it is.



The importance of looking at the numbers is so that you can accurately assess your child’s risk of 1) becoming sick with the disease 2) risk of complications from the disease and 3) risk of death from the disease.



For example, another study of interest for me is car seat safety. Did you know that it is estimated over 80% of carseats in America are installed incorrectly? Your child has a 1000% chance of dying in a carseat driving to the grocery store. Yet many parents are much more worried about vaccine related diseases. Children are more likely to be fully vaccinated than to be buckled in according to the carseat manual.



For example, a common worry I hear about is that a boy will catch mumps and become sterile. Did you know that the CDC admits there are not enough reported cases of sterility from mumps to form a statistic? Yet thousands of children die every year from improperly installed carseats.



Parents are trying to make a risk assessment about their children’s safety on various issues and they are being mislead through the use of emotional scare tactics and advertising. Statistically, parents should be concerned about their child’s safety in a carseat where 1300 kids died last year. But instead they are scared about vaccine related diseases, which cause the least amount of deaths in the developing world out of all causes including drownings, accidents, SIDs, etc.



The last thing to consider in the hard numbers category is how many vaccine related diseases are spread by vaccine free citizens. It is a common myth to assume that vaccine related diseases are caused by those who don’t vaccinate. When researching the incidence reports, take a look at who is vaccinated and who is free of vaccines. You will be quite surprised.



Polio has been eradicated in the Western hemisphere and Western Europe. The last case of vaccine-caused Polio was in 1986 according to the World Health Organisation:

http://www.who.int/vaccines/globalsummar...



But apparently the Oral Vaccine (no longer used in America) caused a case in 2005:



http://www.health.state.mn.us/divs/idepc...



As of 2006 there were around 1700 cases of it worldwide in areas where DDT is still used as a crop spray. If you go to this link you will get the current numbers:



http://www.polioeradication.org/casecoun...



Here are the figures for vaccine injury reports kept by US Department of Health. Here is a link with some context. It contains a link to the actual figures:



http://www.thememoryhole.org/health/dang...



Vaccine Related Injury and Death



Now that you have spent some time learning about the diseases and the risk of contracting them, being injured by them or dying from them, here are some links for learning about vaccines and their risks. Remember that I am providing a basic introduction to this issue. Therefore, I have tried to stay away from clinical studies and raw data. Once you learn more about the issue you can dig into the dry stuff as much as you want. The point is not to dwell on the emotions, but to find the numbers and learn about a new subject.



This website: http://www.insidevaccines.com/ is very anti-vaccine. But it is a good place to start because they are very thorough in their research and provide raw data, studies and other information in small, easy to digest bits. You can choose a vaccine or a disease from their menu and find information from pro vaccine and anti vaccine sources.



http://www.vaccineinfo.net/

http://www.vaclib.org./

http://www.whale.to/vaccines/mendelsohn....

http://www.whale.to/v/mend.html

http://www.mercola.com

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkboo...



http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkboo...







The Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) is a national vaccine safety site run by the government: http://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccine...

An easy to use search tool for VAERS is at http://www.medalerts.org.



If you go to this link you will find stories about vaccine reactions:



http://www.mothering.com/discussions/for...



Vaccine Ingredients



Vaccine ingredients are the point of enlightenment for many people. The simplest way to determine what is in a vaccine, how much and why it is in there is to view the vaccine product insert. The insert is put together by the manufacturer and included with every vaccine.



Remember: you have the right to read the vaccine insert BEFORE your child receives the vaccine. You have a right to demand to see the insert. You have the right to refuse to vaccinate until you can read the insert. You have the right to find a new doctor if your doctor refuses to let you read the inserts.



Click on the brand name and the product insert will open up. The ingredients are listed at the beginning of each insert: http://www.vaccinesafety.edu/thi-table.h... Here is another site for each insert: http://www.vaclib.org/chapter/inserts.ht...



Other sites on the ingredients:

http://www.momtoanangel.net/ingred.htm

http://www.rense.com/general32/thru.htm

http://befreetech.com/vaccine_poisons.ht...



Here is Sheri Nakken's site:



http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm



This organization is not for vaccine study, but this is an institute that is passionately working on autism and helping parents. They released the report last year about the epidemic proportion of autism in California. Caveat: the man who started this organization has a son who developed autism after the MMR. He has been very open about this: http://mindinstitute.ucdmc.ucdavis.edu/



Federal and State Regulation



This thread was started to help parents find their State Government websites and learn about how many reported diseases there were in their area. Unfortunately, the nature of state governments is to change their websites frequently so some of the links within this thread may be broken. It is still worth looking into as you can then find keywords to plug into a search engine:



http://www.mothering.com/discussions/sho...



Find out about state exemptions and laws here:



http://www.909shot.com/state-site/state-...



Here is an example of an exemption document you can offer your doctor if they want you to sign something for delaying or stopping vaccination:



http://www.vaclib.org/legal/refuselt.htm



Legal information:



http://www.vaccineexemption.org/



Reasons for children to remain vaccine free:



http://www.mothering.com/discussions/sho...





What is it like to be free of vaccines?



http://www.mothering.com/discussions/sho...



Did the CDC know Mercury was harmful in vaccines?



There was a transcript indicating that the CDC recognized the danger of the continued use of Thimerosal in vaccines, even through their own study showed a correlation. They never released the "Generation Zero" study, but instead manipulated their own data. The transcript of the closed-door secret meeting convened by the CDC in 2000, in Simpsonwood, Georgia AFTER the AAP recommended the removal of Thimerosal from (childhood) vaccines. That link is no longer on the CDC site. If you go here you can learn more about what happened:



http://www.autismhelpforyou.com/Simpsonw...



Timeline of Thimerosal Controversy (note—courtesy of Motherjones)



http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2004...



Thimerosal is still present in some vaccines in trace amounts. Because they are reported as trace amounts, the FDA does not require an exact amount to be listed and does not regulate it. So who is to say how much is still in a vaccine?



http://www.mothering.com/discussions/sho...



What replaced Mercury?



http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articl...



Besides Mercury, why remain vaccine free?



http://www.mothering.com/discussions/sho...



If you stop vaccinating now what will it do?



http://www.mothering.com/discussions/sho...



CANADA



Here is a Canadian link:



http://www.vaclib.org/exempt/canada.htm



Books to Read



Whether you buy them, rent them or beg others to pass them along, be sure to read them!



The Vaccine Guide: Making an Informed Choice by Randall Neustaedter

The Immunization Decision by Randall Neustaedter



http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/det...



How to Raise a Healthy Child in Spite of Your Doctor by Dr. Robert S. Mendelsohn



http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/det...



Confessions of a Medical Heretic by Dr. Robert S. Mendelsohn



http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/det...



Just a Little Prick by Peter and Hilary Butler



http://whale.to/vaccines/butler88.html



A Shot in the Dark: Why the P in the Dpt Vaccination May Be Hazardous to Your Child's Health by Harris L. Coulter, Barbara Loe Fisher



http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/det...



Vaccines: Are They Really Safe and Effective by Neil Z. Miller, et al



http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/det...



What Every Parent Should know about Childhood Immunization by Jamie Murphy



http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0...



The Immunization Resource Guide : Where to Find Answers to All Your Questions about Childhood Vaccinations by Diane Rozario



http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/det...



What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About Children's Vaccinations by Stephanie Cave, Deborah Mitchell (Contributor)



http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/det...



Vaccinations: A Thoughtful Parent's Guide: How to Make Safe, Sensible Decisions about the Risks, Benefits, and Alternatives by Aviva Jill Romm



http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0...



The Sanctity of Human Blood: Vaccination Is Not Immunization - Sixth Edition - 2003 -- Tim O'Shea; Paperback



http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/det...





Other Points of Interest:



Medical citations that Breastfeeding reduces Hib risk:



http://www.vaccinationnews.com/DailyNews...



Here parents share their most influential links and books:



http://www.mothering.com/discussions/sho...



RotaTeq is one of the rotovirus vaccines (approved in 2006) and

below is the package insert link. There is another one that just

came out called Rotarix (approved in 2008).





http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circ...



It says "Most common adverse events included diarrhea, vomiting,

irritability, otitis media (ear infection), nasopharyngitis, and

bronchospasm."



Below is the link to VAERS and if you search under the vaccine

ROTHB5 you can see what has been reported to VAERS on this vaccine.



http://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/



"Finally, about 20 deaths occur each year due to rotavirus diarrhea

among children younger than 5 years,1, 6 for a cumulative incidence

by age 5 years of 0.000005 (1 in 195000 children)."



http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/ful...



I also found this interesting, from:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez...

db=pubmed&uid=11069230&cmd=showdetailview&indexed= google



"To determine whether naturally acquired serum IgA and IgG

antibodies were associated with protection against rotavirus

infection and illness, a cohort of 200 Mexican infants was monitored

weekly for rotavirus excretion and diarrhea from birth to age 2

years. Serum samples collected during the first week after birth and

every 4 months were tested for anti-rotavirus IgA and IgG. Children

with an IgA titer >1:800 had a lower risk of rotavirus infection

(adjusted relative risk [aRR], 0.21; P1:6400 were protected

against rotavirus infection (aRR, 0.51; P

Lorraine - posted on 07/01/2009

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Quoting Guggie:



Quoting christina:

Honesty....you're can't go to school or daycare without them, so where is the decision?






Not true. Officials, nurses, principals etc might try to bully you but vaccinations ARE NOT mandatory. Check out my links above for local government laws on exemptions.






 






We are still a free country.





I run a daycare and I do not allow unvaccinated children in. my mother runs a government daycare and it is their policy that no unvaxed children are allowed in and if there are sibilings in the home the parent must provide proff of their vaccines as well.

Heidi - posted on 06/30/2009

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I personally have decided against vaccinating for my children, except for the Hep B. I personally know several people, including myself who had almost deadly reactions to the vaccinations. I also don't agree with them because they believe it's a one size fits all method, and I don't believe that is safe for every child. My younger brothers got their vaccines when they got older and was able to handle them better. I believe vaccines have their benefite, but they also have some downfalls. It is up to the parent to decide what is best for their child, and I get very defensive when people think that I don't have a right to choose not to vaccinate.

Stephanie - posted on 06/29/2009

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To vaccinate is a parents responsibility, not only to their own child, but to other peoples too. I do understand that there can be some concerns, and I absolutely sobbed when my baby had hers! Just think of how heartbreaking it would be to watch your child go through and possibly die from, something that could have been completely and easily avoided.

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Julia - posted on 07/10/2009

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Its hard too decide. I cant make my decision untill I research alot more. I have seen and heard horrible stories resulting from some vacines. Why do they need so many shots so young. I am leaning towards waiting till he is older and heavier and then picking which vacines he will not just getting 22 because doctors and pharmacys want to make money. They do cover up things and fire doctors who try to expose them thats what I am reading in my research anyways I will keep reading mean while I have canceled my sons apointment.

Judy - posted on 07/10/2009

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I disagree, vaccines given today do NOT contain mecury or formaldehyde, vaccines do NOT destroy the immune system, on the contrary they help illicit an immune response so that your body can actively recognise and destroy the disease next time it comes in contct with it. I support a person's right to choose to be vaccinated or not but you need to have the correct information before you make that decision.

Mallorie - posted on 07/10/2009

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We decided not to vaccinate and so far she hasn't even hasn't been sick once and she is almost a year. I couldn't find a good enough reason to vaccinate after reading independent studies. Many Doctors speak out against it, the mercury and formaldehyde they use to preserve the disease they inject your child with causes many illnesses. It destroys the immune system and gets your child sick and IT DOESN'T STOP THE DISEASE. KIDS WITH IMMUNIZATIONS CAN STILL GET THE DISEASE THEY ARE IMMUNIZED AGAINST! Doctors who immunize their children have a higher rate of autism, allergies, asthma, common colds and flu's and SIDS. It is hard to deny the connection when you see it across the board. Find a study that is not paid for by the company who makes the vaccines that is pro-vaccination. I can guarantee it will be very difficult to find, I'm still looking and its been almost a year. I know of at least 20 children who have not been vaccinated who are now adolescence or adults and they have had better immune systems than peers and have fewer health problems than most. Most states have philosophical difference laws that protect a parents right to choose what is best for their children in the matter.

Colleen - posted on 07/10/2009

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We decided to vaccinate. I worked for my sons pedi. and the Mom's who chose not to do had to sign a waiver and all of the pedi's told me that it is their not only professional but PERSONAL opinion to get Cam vaccinated. I was a mess thinking about it and all the things it was "linked" to and I really think that I made the best decsion for my son and family. I plan to vaccinate all of our children in the future. Best wishes in ny decision you choose to make.

LaCi - posted on 07/09/2009

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Quoting brenale:



Quoting LaCi:

There are a lot of factors that go into the declining health of our youth and the least of my concerns is vaccination. Worry more about what's in the food you give your children. Short and sweet.






if we just let the most import things i our childrens life just slide by and do what ever we are told then u need to realy rethink what u are doing!





Did I not just say you need to watch what your kids are eating? Do you have any idea how much MERCURY-since thats the main source of debate over vaccinations- is in our FOOD? And thats only one toxic substance they're pumping into us. Someone who doesn't vaccinate their child but feeds them chemicals everyday isn't benefitting their child at all. 

Jenni - posted on 07/04/2009

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We did all the vaccines except for the MMR. He isn't in daycare or pre-school yet, so he doesn't need it. My MIL, who works at a pediatrics office, personally knows a family with three boys. They were perfectly fine, talking, laughing, playing, etc. The first son, within 24 hours of receiving the vaccine, had lost all of those abilities, and were diagnosed with autism. The exact same happened to the second. They decided to not give it to the third, and what do you know, he's perfectly fine.

Heidi - posted on 07/02/2009

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I have no problem with people wanting to vaccinate their children, but nobody and no government has the right to say what that I have to do it to my children. They are my children, not the governments! I believe that some vaccines are helpful, but I have severe concerns about most of them. They might help prevent the diseases, but what are the side effects?

You need to do your research and make the decision for yourself. My Uncle died from taking Viox, my husband almost died because of another medication that a specialist swore was the best drug out there, my grandma's jaw is detiorating because of a side affect of her meds......

Vaccines have their place, but I think it's has to be a personal desicion whether you want to take those risks and you shouldn't be jugded unfairly no matter what road you decide to take!

Christina - posted on 07/01/2009

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I chose to immunise my children, while being nervous each time hoping that they wouldn't have any adverse reactions. It's hard to choose between two evils, but what I would tell myself is that Autism is not deadly, the diseases we are vaccinating against are and they are slowly on the rise again. There are no guarantees with any medical procedure and anyone can have adverse effects.

Brenale - posted on 07/01/2009

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Quoting LaCi:

There are a lot of factors that go into the declining health of our youth and the least of my concerns is vaccination. Worry more about what's in the food you give your children. Short and sweet.



if we just let the most import things i our childrens life just slide by and do what ever we are told then u need to realy rethink what u are doing!

LaCi - posted on 07/01/2009

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There are a lot of factors that go into the declining health of our youth and the least of my concerns is vaccination. Worry more about what's in the food you give your children. Short and sweet.

Brenale - posted on 07/01/2009

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i didn't do it right away eather! but the thing that u NEED to do is that each shot is to be given indavuly! not ones that are 3 in one like messels mumms and rebela !!!! DO NOT GET THAT ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it is killing kids the preservative in it to make them all three ok is what the problem is . i did vacinate after a few mouths, but u need to make sure that they are sepret . don't let them give u greaf about it and say it's all the same! it's NOT!! i have had famlily die from it and there are children that are now brain dead from it! also the chicken pocks one is very painfl and unessasery. be ready though. the docture with be fighting u and telling you lies! look up the faxs first before u say yes!!! also i was a daycare privider and YOU DO NOT have to have the shot !!!!!!!!!!! in the end it is your desition. but don't let them force something on u that u dont' think is right! also no more then 2 shots at a time. make sure you give him LOTs of water it will help with side effects that can be pemant. and a little infant tylano befor u give him the shot so he feels better faster. best of luck hun...... it's not something to take lightly!!

Jessa - posted on 07/01/2009

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Quoting Elizabeth:


 






  This country has seen an increase in the number of outbreaks of diseases that were once thought to be "gone" due to a large number of children not being vaccinated.





This statement can't hold water due to the fact that there is no evidence that not vaccinating caused the diseases to return. You have no proof that it wouldn't come back anyway because some are naturally occuring diseases in the world. Not to mention the fact that all diseases, those considered eradicated or not, are kept in labs all over the world, all that takes is for one person to slip up, get sick from that lab because of poor procedures and be over looked as having it. Oops now its spreading. Diseases happen, people get sick, viruses and bacteria morph and change through very short periods of time. They can even develop their own immunity to our immunizations, so it can't be blamed on people not vaccinating that people are getting sick. There are just too many factors in play to blame it on any one thing. They only blame it on those not immunizing as a scare tactic to get others to immunize.

Jessa - posted on 07/01/2009

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Immunizations don't stop you from getting sick, they are to help you from getting as sick if you do get the disease, but this is not a guarantee. As a child I had all my immunizations and still got the measles, my first born had his immunizations and got measles as well. When you sign the consent form to get your children immunized the small print includes a clause which states if your child comes to harm or death as a result from these shots that you can not take any action against the doctor or place administering them nor the government for forcing you to immunize. Our government has a slush fund set up for families whose children die as a result of immunizations, at last check just 4 years ago a family was given $10,000 in compensation for the child's life.

As for traveling over seas and working for God, plenty of people who were not immunized are doing great works for the Lord over seas, not limited to but including, Dr. Kent Hovind's family, they have built a great ministry for the Lord in many countries and he has not immunized his children nor have his children immunized their children.

The good Lord didn't create these chemicals that doctors and now the government are trying to force onto us and our children. We have no idea what is really in it, we have to trust their word for it that its going to help. When was the last time that there was truly anything that came from our government that helped anybody but the government itself? Maybe its just me, but I don't trust these people to decide which chemicals go into my children's bodies. I value my kids' health and lives too much to do that to them.

Sian - posted on 07/01/2009

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Hi I live in the UK and over here we do have a choice. Our children can still attend Nursery and schools without having had vaccinations.

My son is 17wks old and has just had his last lot of injections until he is over 12mths when the MMR will be due.

Like a lot of Mothers in this country I particularly worry about the MMR vaccine but there is the option to defer it until you childs development can no way be blamed on an injection. You can also go for single injections of most vaccinations if you were worried about your baby getting five in one injections! I did that but I think you guys have to pay for that sort of thing out there where as it's free here.

Elizabeth - posted on 07/01/2009

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Quoting christina:

Honesty....you're can't go to school or daycare without them, so where is the decision?



You can get an exemption for public schools.  Private schools and daycares can make their own policies whether or not to allow an exemption.  I know my son's daycare requires all children to be up to date on their vaccinations, unless there is a medical reason validated by a doctor that states why a child cannot get certain vaccines, like due to a chronic illness or history of reaction, etc.  If a child isn't up to date, they can deny that child care until he/she is up to date.  So my son is up to date.  There are also certain vaccines that are offered, but not required for school attendance.  Hepatitis A is one of those.  I opted not to get it.  The flu shot is also optional.  



Choosing to vaccinate or not is a personal decision.  I have done my own research and believe it is safer to vaccinate my son than to leave him unprotected from potentially life-threatening diseases.  This country has seen an increase in the number of outbreaks of diseases that were once thought to be "gone" due to a large number of children not being vaccinated.  The whole argument that vaccines cause autism is BS to me.  There is no evidence showing any correlation.  And I have talked to several mothers with autistic children who agree. 

Tawni - posted on 07/01/2009

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uhm- sorry- i do NOT think immunizing your child should be a personal decision... immunizations exist as a method to create a type of herd immunity- the regulations in place urging parents with children in public school to be immunized are there for a reason- for people who CANT be immunized for health reasons... for some of our deadliest viruses there is NO reason to place others with health risks at greater risks due to your personal discomforts or whatever- and they've already ruled out the connection with the MMR vaccine and autism- I can see being skeptic/hesitant about new vaccines- but the vaccines we have and use on a routine basis that are required (without a waiver) for public school are used routinely for a REASON- i briefly considered not immunizing due to all the literature that was out there- but bottom line- some people DONT have a choice and can't be immunized- by not immunizing your children you place them at an enormous risk and that to me is uncalled for and selfish.. sorry... (oh- and those numbers based on cases that actually occur for each disease- they are as low as they are BECAUSE of vaccines... i'm sorry- but a few bad reactions does not rule out the overall benefit to the population as a whole.. if there is no medical reason you cannot be vaccinated- you should be)

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Quoting Kari:

I know someone very close in my family who has chosen not immunize their children. They have several, and while I understand their reasons for it, I do not agree. When children who are not immunized get sick, they make others sick around them and vice versa. I know not all immunizations are great so be picky! I think it's okay to pick and choose which ones to do, but make sure you have a doctor who really talks it over with you and keeps you well informed.
My biggest issue with not immunizing children is a personal/spiritual issue that I have come to recognize in the past year. If your child were to be called by God to become a missionary, by not immunizing them now, you are not preparing them for the work God has for them. I do not know if you attend church or not, but I do and am hoping you do as well. This is an issue.
If a child wants to go overseas to travel, or to study abroad, think about the number of shots they must endure as an adult?
The chicken pox vaccine is one I'd be cautious about now due to the large numbers of shingles outbreaks. I have heard that if you do not experience chicken pox as a child, you are more likely to get shingles as an adult, but now I'm hearing reports of adolescents and teens getting it. It is much more painful than chicken pox.
My advice - be smart, be open about it, and pray!


Hi, I have never heard that point of view before! It is very interesting. I have some honest questions:



 



You seem concerned that an adult would need a large number of vaccines. Do you not feel this is a valid concern for infants? According to the U.S. schedule, babies are supposed to receive 46 doses of vaccinations before the age of 2.



We know science has shown us that our immune systems are not even fully functioning until around 7-8 years, and certainly not as an infant. Isn't this scary? Wouldn't you want an adult, who is bigger, has more mass, developed brain and organs, etc to bear the brunt of mass vaccinations?



This is why a lot of moms, whether they go on to vaccinate or not, avoid the HepB vaccine at birth. If you follow the FDA regulations on metal toxicity, a newborn infant receives a dose of metal that would only be safe for an almost 300lb adult. Yet most infants born in the U.S weigh 6-7lbs.



I know this is also why a lot of people delay vaccinations until after the toddler stage. They want their child to be able to tell them what hurts and how it hurts. For example, on the mothering forum a mom recently changed from delayed vaccinations to no vaccinations after her 4yo got the MMR vaccine. He told her he couldn't walk because his legs were on fire and that his brain was 'dying.' Babies can't talk.



If the U.S. goes through with their intent to force vaccines, I will at least hope to delay them so that my daughter 1) has a developed an intact brain and immune system to bear the brunt of the chemicals and 2) can tell me what is wrong so I know when to take her to the hospital.



 



 



 

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You should because if you don't then you are taking the chance of other children getting sick from your child! Do one or two vac's at a time. Don't do them all at once. I think it should be mandatory because if one doesn't, then it possibly could affect everyone! and that isn't fair to the parents or kids who took the time to get there kids protected!!! They have been doing it for a long time, and yes, there are risks, but there is a much bigger risk to NOT getting them vaccinated!!!

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I know someone very close in my family who has chosen not immunize their children. They have several, and while I understand their reasons for it, I do not agree. When children who are not immunized get sick, they make others sick around them and vice versa. I know not all immunizations are great so be picky! I think it's okay to pick and choose which ones to do, but make sure you have a doctor who really talks it over with you and keeps you well informed.
My biggest issue with not immunizing children is a personal/spiritual issue that I have come to recognize in the past year. If your child were to be called by God to become a missionary, by not immunizing them now, you are not preparing them for the work God has for them. I do not know if you attend church or not, but I do and am hoping you do as well. This is an issue.
If a child wants to go overseas to travel, or to study abroad, think about the number of shots they must endure as an adult?
The chicken pox vaccine is one I'd be cautious about now due to the large numbers of shingles outbreaks. I have heard that if you do not experience chicken pox as a child, you are more likely to get shingles as an adult, but now I'm hearing reports of adolescents and teens getting it. It is much more painful than chicken pox.
My advice - be smart, be open about it, and pray!

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Quoting Heidi:

My oldest son was in kindergarten this year and several of the vaccinated kids got chicken pox, also he was around his cousin who had got chicken pox and my son still did not get it. I choose not to vaccinate my kids, but I make sure they have a strong immune systems, (very little junk food, vitamins, herbs, ect.) and I work closely with their doctor to make sure they stay as healthy as possible because I know the things that go around can be very scary. I just believe that some vaccines are not as good as they lead us to believe. I also think that they give people a false sense of security because I have seen kids get a lot of the things that they have been immunized agaginst.


We don't get vaccinated for chicken pox here in the UK. So i agree that is a bit of a waste of time!



As for kids catching things they've been vaccinated against, it can be because the vaccine didn't 'take' very well to their immune system. They then end up catching it from someone who hasn't been vaccinated. So if everyone was vaccinated, it would be less of a problem. (i think that's right, i'm sure someone will correct me if i'm wrong!)



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My oldest son was in kindergarten this year and several of the vaccinated kids got chicken pox, also he was around his cousin who had got chicken pox and my son still did not get it. I choose not to vaccinate my kids, but I make sure they have a strong immune systems, (very little junk food, vitamins, herbs, ect.) and I work closely with their doctor to make sure they stay as healthy as possible because I know the things that go around can be very scary. I just believe that some vaccines are not as good as they lead us to believe. I also think that they give people a false sense of security because I have seen kids get a lot of the things that they have been immunized agaginst.

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This I think ought to be a personal choice, but here's a few things to I guess ponder upon.

Are you planning on putting them in school, or homeschooling? In daycares and schools diseases run rampant, especially among the littles who have a lot to learn about hygene. Especially the first year around eachother, when they start catching things for the first time. (Takes a bit to build up a good immune system, after all) I hadn't ever put my kid in daycare, so this year in headstart pre-k, he picked up almost everything he came across, and yes, he IS vaccinated. I'd hate to imagine what he would have gotten had he not been.

Does your family have lower immune systems by nature? Or are you prone to staying healthy despite what you're around? Mine isn't the best, so there's a good chance my son's won't be either. And thus I decided it was better to be safer than sorry.

There's a lot of things that are still around, that had been thought to be taken care of, but most were protected, by vaccines, and the few who weren't by a blanket effect. More and more aren't vaccinated though, so there's less of that effect around.

So do your research, and figure out what you feel is best for you and your family.

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This is a very controversial debate. The way I see it is...you take your children to play with 2 grps of children...one side is vaccinated and the other side is not...which side would you let your child play on. There are sometimes no symptoms for measles and it causes death. A town in washing had a big debate going on and a bunch of mothers decided against vaccination and guess what they all got very sick and hospitalized for getting small pox. It still exists...my moms boy friend had it when he was younger and what if its still in his system I dont want my child to die from it. So I chose to vaccinate both my children and they did really well...nothing bad came from it. Who here takes birth control because there is a chance you can die from that...who here wears tampons because there is a chance you can get TSS...its a choice and I believe vaccinating has more pros than cons. Im not trying to be mean just stating why I chose to vaccinate my children. I hope this helps!

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Any one come across information on how vaccinating lessens or blocks our immune system, from creating marker cells? They, from my understanding are what make up most of our immune system reactions, They cause an earlier response to fight off such horrible things. Most of theses markers are set in place durning the first few years of life. IF vaccinating help produces these, it may be worth while, but if for some reason it prevents they body from doing what it was intended too, (which is my personal belief is what happens when we keep pumping all this junk into our bodies) maybe it's not such a good idea.

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Quoting Nicole:

This is such a hard decision!

I decided to vaccinate both my children, but didn't get the rotavirus vaccine for my first son. (Our clinic didn't even offer it b/c they were worried about the side effects). When he was15 mos he got rotavirus and was hospitalized for dehyrdation. Talk about feeling like a terrible parent, I could have prevented him from getting sick. :( However, after everything was fine and doing my research I realized that I trusted my doc and that my son as okay.

With my second baby we were so sure we would vaccinate him for rotavirus. However, we only have two more weeks to take him down to the Health Department since my clinic still will not give the vaccine. I am not sure what to do still.

On another side note, a good friend of mines daughter got the chicken pox last week and she was vaccinated. Being vaccinated doesn't mean that your child will not get the illness, but it may lessen the symptoms.

Good Luck, just remember that you are the parent and that it is a personal choice. Whatever you decide feel confident with your decision!


It's not surprising to hear that about the varicella vaccine. They considering adding another dose due its low efficacy.



 





“Conclusions Although varicella vaccine is effective, its effectiveness decreases significantly after 1 year, although most cases of breakthrough disease are mild. If administered at younger than 15 months, the vaccine's effectiveness was lower in the first year after vaccination, but the difference in effectiveness was not statistically significant for subsequent years.”



 



Rotateq is a live virus (meaning it sheds in the stools and saliva and can be spread by the vaccine) and it only covers two serotypes. The older vaccine was pulled by the CDC due to overwhelming health reactions. Rotateq is about two years old.



 



The CDC admits that the dangerous complications can be prevented by at home treatment:



 





 



“Home Management of Acute Diarrhea
Treatment with ORS is simple and enables management of uncomplicated cases of diarrhea at home, regardless of etiologic agent. As long as caregivers are instructed properly regarding signs of dehydration or are able to determine when children appear markedly ill or appear not to be responding to treatment, therapy should begin at home. Early intervention can reduce such complications as dehydration and malnutrition. Early administration of ORS leads to fewer office, clinic, and emergency department (ED) visits (37) and to potentially fewer hospitalizations and deaths.”



 



Here is the VAERS report for Intussusception in infants who received the Rotavirus vaccine:



 





 



The FDA released a warning that the Rotateq vaccine can cause severe complications:



 





 



“The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is notifying health care providers and consumers about 28 post-marketing reports of intussusception following administration of Rotavirus, Live, Oral, Pentavalent vaccine (trade name RotaTeq), manufactured by Merck and Co., Inc. Intussusception is a serious and potentially life-threatening condition that occurs when the intestine gets blocked or twisted.”



 



Here's a good article about rotavirus:



 



Here is another statement by the FDA:



 





 



“Infection with rotavirus is a leading cause of severe diarrhea in infants and young children in the United States and worldwide. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has estimated that rotavirus infection results in approximately 55,000 hospitalizations annually of infants and young children in this country. Death from rotavirus is rare in the United States. However, in developing countries, rotavirus gastroenteritis has been estimated to cause up to several hundred thousand deaths annually in infants and young children."

In 1999 RotaShield was pulled from the market because of 15 cases of intussception-


Note in here it states that 15 cases occurred, a higher number than expected.
And as of March of 2007 (the last time I checked) – 28 cases have been reported linked to
RotaTeq…and it’s still out there! And here one of the co-makers of RotaTeq comments on the 28 cases in the Associated Press (still trying to find the link)
Associated Press:



“It’s a known serious, life-threatening adverse event that is being seen at an expected level postmarketing. But because it is so serious, we asked the company to change the label,” FDA spokeswoman Karen Riley said.

Dr. Paul Offit, the vaccine’s co-inventor, said the 28 reports were well below the hundreds of cases one would expect naturally. He suggested the FDA wanted to “shake the tree” for more reports about the vaccine.

“I am actually encouraged by those data: 28 cases, when you would have expected at least 500 cases, that is really reassuring,” said Offit, of the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia. “I don’t see how those numbers suggest something’s awry. If anything, they suggest nothing’s awry.”



 



So how come RotaShield was pulled with 15 cases (a higher number than expected) and RotaTeq with 28 cases is well below what one would expect naturally?????????????



 





 



The similarity between the Finnish isolates and the bovine isolate NCDV suggests that they have diverged recently and that these human G 8 rotaviruses may be derived from a zoonotic infection, or alternatively, from the live rotavirus vaccine of bovine origin which has been used to vaccinate Finnish children.”



 



How to treat Rotavirus caused by the vaccine, by the vaccine shedding or naturally contracted:



 





 



Mother’s share their personal experiences with Rotavirus:



 





 



Now as a mother to a vaccine free child, I am very upset that parents are not informed by their doctors that their recently vaccinated children pass this virus in their stools and can infect other people. How come the children who receive this contagious vaccine aren’t asked to stay home during the shedding period? Since everyone seems so worried about Rotavirus, wouldn’t this make sense?



 



Want to learn some interesting things about Zoology? This thread talks about Fetal Bovine Serum (pre-born cow blood) in vaccines and its possible affects. Rotateq ingredients include FBS and Polysorbate 80 among others. Interestingly, the studies used all the vaccine ingredients except the actual live virus on the placebo group!



 





 

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I've chosen to vaccinate both of my kids. With my daughter I never questioned it, because the Dr said it was best I did it. With my son, who has health issues to begin with, I thought long and hard about whether to vaccinate, not knowing if it was a better idea to not.... but I decided, I was already worried enough about him, he got a stomach virus and was in the hospital for a week, with dehydration. The only thing I've decided against getting either of my kids, even though I've been advised to getting it, is the flu shot. First I personally think how can their bodies ever build up immunities to sickness if they get it, and then.... they put antifreeze, and formaldehyde in these shots, just to name the two things I remember off hand..... what reason could I possibly have for purposely let a Dr inject that into my kids.

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your choice to vaccinate or not ends when your child reaches the age where they need an MMR. if your worried about them having an allergic reaction you can always talk to your doctor about doing an alternate vaccine cycle. Look up the information and sit down and voice your concerns and tell the doc you feel safer doing it this way. I did this with my son and we went back every week. Yes its painful for them, but its healthier in the long run because you know what shot made them sick if they do get sick.

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i am a mother of two with a third on the way and my children are full vaccinated n always will be yes i understand that some children that are vaccinated can carry the diseases and pass them but u sit there n think if noone vaccinated there children how many cases of polio and measels and deptheria there would be cause of the travel to third world country's that arent as lucky as us to have access to vaccinations n are dying from these disease does our country really deserve that

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This is such a hard decision!



I decided to vaccinate both my children, but didn't get the rotavirus vaccine for my first son. (Our clinic didn't even offer it b/c they were worried about the side effects). When he was15 mos he got rotavirus and was hospitalized for dehyrdation. Talk about feeling like a terrible parent, I could have prevented him from getting sick. :( However, after everything was fine and doing my research I realized that I trusted my doc and that my son as okay.



With my second baby we were so sure we would vaccinate him for rotavirus. However, we only have two more weeks to take him down to the Health Department since my clinic still will not give the vaccine. I am not sure what to do still.



On another side note, a good friend of mines daughter got the chicken pox last week and she was vaccinated. Being vaccinated doesn't mean that your child will not get the illness, but it may lessen the symptoms.



Good Luck, just remember that you are the parent and that it is a personal choice. Whatever you decide feel confident with your decision!

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It's up to you really, personally, i vaccinated both my girls. The benefits outweigh the risks in my opinion. Neither of my girls have had any reactions...in fact my youngest hasn't cried at all while having her jabs!
These diseases can be life threatening, vaccines have helped to erradicate most of them from our society, but in order for them to keep these diseases at bay, people need to keep having the jabs.
The autism link to the MMR jab has now been widely discredited.
For me, i never even hesitated in getting my girls vaccinated, but it's a personal choice i guess. :)

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I personally have also chosen to vaccinate my now 2 year old. Yes, it is emotionally painful to see them get the shots and have them look at you like, "What are you doing to me?" But I would clothe her in something that exposed legs so I could get her dressed again while the nurse got the shots ready then breastfed her right after to help her calm down. She did have a low grade fever after her 2 months shots but I started giving her Tylenol (or Motrin after 6 mos) before the shot and there was never another problem.

I believe that vaccines protects us (still) from the eradicated diseases. Just because they are gone in our country doesn't mean they are gone in the world. With millions of immigrants (right or wrong) in our country, we don't truly know everyone and everything that our children will come into contact with.

But it is your child and a personal decision - I would suggest delaying until you are comfortable with your decision.

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vaccines are life savers. your child can still get ill with the vaccine however the illness is so mild as compared to children who get the illnesses who have not been vaccinated. My daughter contracted measels at 8 months, 4 months shy of old enough for the vaccine. she nearly died and was hospitalized for a week.

and if it is the autisim thing you are worried about. this has been unfounded and is a myth. even if vaccines were linked to autisim I would still vaccinate because I would rather have an autistic child than a dead child.

In my opinion I think a lot of people choose not to vaccinate because they dont want to pay for them or cant afford them. I am in canada and vaccines are free and everyone I know vaccinates their children. The health nurses even phone and will nag you if you have not gotten it done or if they are late.

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yes it is personal choice , my choice was to vaccinate , people tend to forget the hundreds of children dying in " iron lungs " in hospital wards because of polio , and the many other killer diseases that threatend to wipe out millions of people if not for vaccines , if you google the words " pictures of polio iron lungs " the scene is truley eerie and disturbing , i work at a school where a mother decided to send her child to school with rubella while i was pregnant , i immediatly had to leave school for the incubation period even though i was immunised , as did all children who had not been immunised , had i caught rubella off that child my baby could have been , blinded , severly brain damaged or died .
As for autism no one really knows what causes it there are many theories yes vaccines are one of them but so is genetics , atypical brain development , even food allergies , research suggests autism is caused by genetic predispositions and environmental issues , so if Autism is something that is in your family perhaps it is wise not too , really you should speak to your doctor if that is the worry .

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Both of my kids have been vaccinated on the doctor's schedule and aside from a low grade fever, there have been no issues. I would never not vaccinate them. Personally, I feel that is close to neglect to not protect your children.

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Quoting Jana:

My husband and I have decided not to vaccinate. we have done our research and have decided that it's not right for our family. We are going to home school our children.

I have a question for Melissa M. how do you know that it was a non-vaccinated child that infected your child? Vaccinated children can still carry the disease even if they show no signs of being sick. I don't mean to be rude I'm just interested in knowing.



Yes, I was wondering the same thing. I know a lot of mamas with vaccine free children who have been concerned about the recently vaccinated due to shedding. Everyone, vaccinated or not, can be a vector of disease.



 



Here are a couple studies I found on that:



 








The effects of whole-cell pertussis vaccine wane after 5 to 10 years, and infection in a vaccinated person causes nonspecific symptoms (3-7). Vaccinated adolescents and adults may serve as reservoirs for silent infection and become potential transmitters to unprotected infants (3-11). The whole-cell vaccine for pertussis is protective only against clinical disease, not against infection (15-17). Therefore, even young, recently vaccinated children may serve as reservoirs and potential transmitters of infection.



 



 





 

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My husband and I have decided not to vaccinate. we have done our research and have decided that it's not right for our family. We are going to home school our children.

I have a question for Melissa M. how do you know that it was a non-vaccinated child that infected your child? Vaccinated children can still carry the disease even if they show no signs of being sick. I don't mean to be rude I'm just interested in knowing.

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We go middle-of the road. We follow an alternate schedule. Our second daughter had no vitamin K shot at birth (or oral drops), and she got her first vaccinations at four months (pneumoccocal, HiB, polio, and dtAp). Ended up being in only two injections. Those were the most important vaccinations for us.



We're holding off on the MMR until at least four. My first actually came down with measles from it.



We don't vaccinate for hepatitis, chickenpox, or HPV. The hepatitis and gardasil our girls can decide for themselves.

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With Travel today, there is a greater risk to your child's health by not getting vaccinated than having it done.

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As a mom of a child who got sick from an unimmunized child I say do it, I couldnt imagine being responsible for the possible death of another child. It is SAFE otherwise it wouldnt be recommemded. And from what my DR has told me that the odds of getting Autism is just as high regardless if you immunize or not. Protect your baby and other peoples children. Just my opinion. You will find in your heart what is best for you and your child. But please be sure to talk to medical professionals before making up your mind.

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Quoting Abby:

Some schools, especially in large cities or cities with major disease control issues require your child have certain vaccinations before allowing them in. I would talk to the school (if you aren't homeschooling) your child(ren) would/may attend to get their response.



All 50 states have a medical exemption. All but two states have a philosophical and/or religious exemption that all operating schools/businesses must comply with to remain within the law.



It is best to check directly on the state government's website for the specific vaccinations on the state schedule as many schools use words such as 'compliance' 'mandatory' 'required' etc but they are misleading you. They also tend to add more to the schedule than is required.

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Quoting Abby:

Some schools, especially in large cities or cities with major disease control issues require your child have certain vaccinations before allowing them in. I would talk to the school (if you aren't homeschooling) your child(ren) would/may attend to get their response.


Public schools CANNOT keep a child out because they didn't get vaccinated. You CAN opt out of vaccines. Private schools are a different matter, however. 

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Some schools, especially in large cities or cities with major disease control issues require your child have certain vaccinations before allowing them in. I would talk to the school (if you aren't homeschooling) your child(ren) would/may attend to get their response.

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Quoting Tabatha:

what are the links to the "new" reports??? the one i found was published in feb/09!
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/booster_...




The leader against Dr. Wakefield resigned and was appointed to the company he protected:



http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2009/...







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Murdoch, the chairman and chief executive of News Corporation Europe and Asia, and chairman of BSkyB, starts in the £75,000-a-year post on 20 May.




At the current exchange rate, that is about $105,000. Remember that this is just extra income for him.

Here's my favorite part of the article, explaining his new position.





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He will serve as a member of GSK's corporate responsibility committee, where he will help to review "external issues that might have the potential for serious impact upon the group's business and reputation."




I seriously don't see how people can keep a straight face when saying or even reading that.



 



Here are the three studies which confirmed the intestinal problems in autistic children:

Gonzalez, L. et al., Endoscopic and Histological Characteristics of the Digestive Mucosa in Autistic Children with gastro-Intestinal Symptoms. Arch Venez Pueric Pediatr, 2005;69:19-25.

Balzola, F., et al., Panenteric IBD-like disease in a patient with regressive autism shown for the first time by wireless capsule enteroscopy: Another piece in the jig-saw of the gut-brain
syndrome? American Journal of Gastroenterology, 2005. 100(4): p. 979- 981.

Krigsman A et al.
http://www.cevs.ucdavis.edu/confreg/?con...

Balzola F et al . Autistic enterocolitis: confirmation of a new inflammatory bowel disease in an Italian cohort of patients. Gastroenterology 2005;128(Suppl. 2);A-303..


This thread gives detailed information on most of what is going on:


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I will say it again: the choice to vaccinate a child is very personal and should be thought about carefully. Are there allergies to vaccines in the family? Does immune disorders run in the family? What are the health statistics like in your area? On and on and on. No one should be made to feel bad because they did or did not vaccinate their children. It's a personal choice. That being said, it is VERY important to immunize against tetanus. It's an infection that can come from anywhere and effect any one. Also can't get stitches without a current tetanus vaccine.

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There are quite a few people who decide not to immunise their children but out of all the Mom's I know or are friends w/, I dont know anyone who hasnt vaccinated their children. I watched my son get vaccinated from Day 1. Next to breastfeeding (if ur able) vaccinating is the best start to their health regimen. Dont you wanna do whats best for him? Were YOU vaccinated? I imagine that you were. How'd you turn out? I know I was vaccinated, I have my whole health record & i seemed to turn out just fine. I know that 22 years ago (when I was born) vaccinations werent as good as they are now. I'm not worried, you shouldnt be either.

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Quoting Tabatha:

i immunised my boy and will continue to for his health and other kids!!
i dont want him to get sick or get other kids sick! and with the whole autisum dabate the doc has been banned because his report in the medical jurnal was not right!



Dr. Wakefield has been exonerated. Please check on the new reports. Those involved are resigning/being fired and facing charges.

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i immunised my boy and will continue to for his health and other kids!!

i dont want him to get sick or get other kids sick! and with the whole autisum dabate the doc has been banned because his report in the medical jurnal was not right!

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I think that you should definately go through with the immunization process. It is what is best for the health of your child or it would not be recommended. I find it very helpful to go to the local health department. They keep up with the shots needed for your child and give very good information about the immunizations.

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