Vaccinating my newborn?

Anna - posted on 09/30/2009 ( 43 moms have responded )

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I'm afraid and confused about vaccinating my newborn. I just don't want anything to happen to her.

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Lindsay - posted on 09/30/2009

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My daughter was a preemie (12 wks early) but was still vaccinated on schedule. She received her first shots at 2 mos old, even though that was still before her due date(4 weeks before). She has had no reactions to any of then shots. The only difference was I chose to hold off her chicken pox (varicella) immunization till 15 mos instead of 12. That gave her fewer shots at 12 mos. Just do some research and make a decision for yourself. I personally would rather vaccinate my little girl, than chance her getting very sick.

Alyssa - posted on 10/03/2009

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Quoting Brittany:

There is no real medical evidence to support the recent myths that vaccines cause harm to kids. Plus if your children aren't vaccinated up to date from birth on up, your kids are not eligible to go to school or to any kind of daycare. Your only choice then is home schooling. My kids (4and 1) were vaccinated from birth and both are completely healthy and happy. Plus after your immunity wears off from birth (a few months) your kids have no defense against some of the rare diseases that have been eradicated. Vaccines are what keep diseases like polio, small pox, and measels from killing or crippling many children like they did in the past. My best advice, for your childs sake, is to get them vaccinated.


You are horribly misinformed.  Kids can go to school if they are not vaccinated.  Both my older children have had measles OH NOES and i pray my youngest gets them also...children died and still die in 3rd world countries because we didnt/they dont have the means to treat these diseases.  They dont/we didnt know the benefit about dosing with Vit A and how just that extra Vit A means the difference in your child being horribly sick and just mildly sick.

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First of all, the dose makes the poison. In large enough quantities, water is a poison. In small enough amounts, some things we see as harmful have no effect. Vaccines don't contain aluminum - they contain inorganic aluminum salts (very different properties, just like sodium metal and table salt are different). The amount of formaldehyde in all vaccines on the CDC schedule is less than what the body produces as a byproduct of metabolism. And anti-freeze? No, vaccines do not contain antifreeze, nor to they contain a component of antifreeze. Ethylene glycol is in antifreeze, and polyethylene glycol pisooctylphenyl ether is in vaccines. It's a surfactant, and has no relationship to antifreeze. Unfortunately, a lot of the people out there publishing the anti-vaccine information have a very poor grasp of chemistry.

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My son has, and will, receive all vaccines on schedule. I haven't been convinced by any of the evidence that vaccines are more likely to make him horribly ill or give him a permanent problem than that he will come into contact with one of the diseases that they can prevent. I think that because autism is a relatively new diagnosis, and its criteria have changed several times in the past 50/60-odd years that it's been around, we're noticing more cases but there aren't actually more cases than before. It's important to remember that the diseases these vaccines help prevent aren't eradicated and that just because your child doesn't directly come into contact with someone who has one doesn't mean he/she isn't at risk-he could come into contact with Sally Mae, who had just been hanging out with Thelma, whose husband Bobby just came back from working with sick children in other countries, and there is still a chance that the germs could move from person to person and get to an unvaccinated child, making them sick, and if they come into contact with other unvaccinated kids they could infect them as well.



Anyway-that's my *opinion* and reason for vaccinating on schedule. I don't want to get grief about it, nor will I condemn anyone else for their views on the issue (as I'm sure you can imagine, this almost always becomes a hot button issue on here.) I say just do a lot of research, talk with your doc, and make the decision that you feel best fits your family.

Michele - posted on 09/30/2009

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My 13 month old has had every vaccine scheduled and she has always been healthy. My opinion is that they are beneficial to children and should be given. The cases of children being affected by Vaccinations are far lower than the amount of times that they have helped protect our children and the community!

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Aleshia - posted on 10/06/2009

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Quoting Chelsea:



Quoting Alyssa:

poi·son (poizn)
n.
1. A substance that causes injury, illness, or death, especially by chemical means.
2. Something destructive or fatal.
3. Chemistry & Physics A substance that inhibits another substance or a reaction: a catalyst poison.
tr.v. poi·soned, poi·son·ing, poi·sons
1. To kill or harm with poison.
2. To put poison on or into: poisoning arrows; poisoned the drink.
3.
a. To pollute: Noxious fumes poison the air. See Synonyms at contaminate.
b. To have a harmful influence on; corrupt: Jealousy poisoned their friendship.
4. Chemistry & Physics To inhibit (a substance or reaction).
adj.

Yes the things that are in vaccines are in fact poison. Aluminum, formaldehyde and ethylene glycol phenyl ether (a component of anti-freeze) are all in fact a poison. Whooping cough and polio is still around because vaccines are not 100% and in fact many cases of Polio were CAUSED by the vaccine itself. The whooping cough vaccine doesnt even provide minimal protection. We have more cases PER ca pita then at ANYTIME since prior to mass vaccination.





I am not rtrying to be mean but iwhopping cough and Polio are still around because of parents like you!  Are you going to home school your children? because without those vaccinations they will not let them in to public school. I just don't understand why some parents will put their children in harms way because you think someing will happen they have been giving these shots for a very long time if they didnt do what they said they do then why are they still using them?





 



Chelsea:






Making the decision to forego vaccinations is a very tough decision. I fear both the vaccinations themselves as well as the diseases that the vaccinations help to prevent. To those of us whom have thoroughly researched and chosen an alternative course of action, we truly believe that we are helping, not hurting, our children. It is not appropriate for you to point fingers or accuse parents of intentionally putting their chldren in harms way, regardless of the firendly tone used in doing so.






You are sending out a very negative message. Parenting is an art that is viewed, practiced, and appreciated differently by all.




Also, you are not entirely correct about public schools not accepting unvaccinated children. Each state is different, and the most legitimate information can be found on the State's government website and on county health department websites. Florida, for example, has a couple exemptions: religious and medical.






Be sure you are analyzing your sources efficiently throughout your decision-making process. There is a plethora of deceptive information out there. It seems as though the very last thing a parent would want to do would be to make a decision based on faulty information. How unfair would that be to one's child? And indeed potentially harmful.



 



I hope I managed to keep this post evensided, difficult to do with such a controversial topic :)



 



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Courtney - posted on 10/05/2009

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I am a pediatric nurse and give these vaccines to children everyday. I have 21month old twin boys who have been fully vaccinated and are both very healthy. My advice is similiar to most the others. Do your own research but talk to your child's pediatrician. There is all kind of false info out there on the web but your child's doctor went to medical school and has seen the research and has the facts and you should trust their opinion. If you don't feel you can trust your child's doctor then you need to find a new one. Good luck with your decision.

Pia - posted on 10/04/2009

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The best thing to do is research and then make an informed decision. I personally believe in vaccinating my child, not only for his protection, but for other infants, who aren't old enough to get their vaccinations, protection as well. It is a personal choice though, and I'm sure with enough research you will make a decision about what to do.

Gina - posted on 10/04/2009

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I have a 18 month old son who has all his vaccination plus more. He was born at 36 weeks he did not come home unitl he was 2months old.He has PPHN and he get his RSV shot ever month starting this month until April. If I did not have doc and nurse tell me I have to get his vaccinations and RSV shot done. I would be lost. Just read up on it and talk to ur doc before making a chose.

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That study wasn't done by Offit (not that I think it would invalidate it). It was done at Johns Hopkins and published in JAMA. But how can you argue with the numbers, even if you don't like the source? And that certainly isn't the only study that's shown higher disease rates among unvaccinated populations in the US. I don't think it is fair for you to give bad information to someone who's trying to make a decision about vaccinating - that's why I linked to a study summary.



And why should it matter? Because it takes time to get a child fully vaccinated. And some children can't be vaccinated or their immune systems do not respond properly. My son may not be at much risk of catching measles or pertussis, but the newborn living next door might. And there isn't any question that lower vaccination rates result in an increase in vaccine-preventable diseases - we've seen this with pertussis, measles, HiB, etc.

Alyssa - posted on 10/03/2009

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Quoting Jenifer:



Quoting Alyssa:




Quoting Chelsea:





I am not rtrying to be mean but iwhopping cough and Polio are still around because of parents like you!  Are you going to home school your children? because without those vaccinations they will not let them in to public school. I just don't understand why some parents will put their children in harms way because you think someing will happen they have been giving these shots for a very long time if they didnt do what they said they do then why are they still using them?












Actually no they arent....the rates of people being vaccinated for whooping cough are in excess of the rates postulated to create "herd immunity" (80%) and we still have more cases of it PER CAPITA then at any time proior to mass vaccination.  If it provided even MINIMAL protection we would see the incidences come down....they have not, the've gone up.  Wow someone has you hosed....kids dont have to be vaccinated to attend school.









That isn't correct. The pertussis rate has been on the rise compared to what they were in the 1980's, but it is still significantly lower than what it was before the vaccine. Before the vaccine, the rate averaged ~157 per 100,000. Now it is more like 1-5 per 100,000 (depending on where you live). I'd call that a significant drop. But I will agree that kids don't need to be vaccinated to attend school - exemptions are available. And the states where the exemptions are easiest to attain have the highest pertussis rates:






http://www.chop.edu/consumer/jsp/divisio...





 



Of course, that is the site for the hospital where Dr. Profit Offit works:


 




 


Note this from his site:

"Special Interests: Rotavirus vaccines and protective immune response to rotavirus"

Samantha - posted on 10/03/2009

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my son is 14 months old and we have a little girl due in 2 weeks. my son has had all vaccinations and my daughter will too. vaccines are thre to protect your child(ren). I highly recomend them. plus i dont believe your child(ren) can start school without them.

Lyndsay - posted on 10/03/2009

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I think it depends what vaccination you're thinking of. Routine vaccinations may cause a bit of a fever and/or some crankiness, but other than that it's pretty okay. As for the flu shot or swine flu shot, I'm not even going to consider them for my own son (he's 2) and I definitely would NOT give them to a newborn.

Kasey - posted on 10/03/2009

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Research, Research, Research!! The Vaccine Book by Dr Sears is a very good resource. After reading it two times I am doing an alternative schedule. There is no problem with splitting them up, and letting them take fewer vaccines more frequently. You are not skipping any, just doing it in a more "gentle" manner. Good Luck on your decision, people tend to be REALLY pushy on subjects like this.

Ashley - posted on 10/03/2009

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your better off vaccinating and trying to prevent it rather then taking the risk of your baby getting anything

Jami - posted on 10/03/2009

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Hey girl- my daughter is 9months old and like many of the other babies, she's had every vaccine known to babies!!! this next month she'll also be getting both flu & swine flu vaccine. Every decision is up to you of couse...but I would def be asking your doc what is and isn't approprite for your baby. Hope this helps!

Brittany - posted on 10/03/2009

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There is no real medical evidence to support the recent myths that vaccines cause harm to kids. Plus if your children aren't vaccinated up to date from birth on up, your kids are not eligible to go to school or to any kind of daycare. Your only choice then is home schooling. My kids (4and 1) were vaccinated from birth and both are completely healthy and happy. Plus after your immunity wears off from birth (a few months) your kids have no defense against some of the rare diseases that have been eradicated. Vaccines are what keep diseases like polio, small pox, and measels from killing or crippling many children like they did in the past. My best advice, for your childs sake, is to get them vaccinated.

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Quoting Alyssa:



Quoting Chelsea:




I am not rtrying to be mean but iwhopping cough and Polio are still around because of parents like you!  Are you going to home school your children? because without those vaccinations they will not let them in to public school. I just don't understand why some parents will put their children in harms way because you think someing will happen they have been giving these shots for a very long time if they didnt do what they said they do then why are they still using them?









Actually no they arent....the rates of people being vaccinated for whooping cough are in excess of the rates postulated to create "herd immunity" (80%) and we still have more cases of it PER CAPITA then at any time proior to mass vaccination.  If it provided even MINIMAL protection we would see the incidences come down....they have not, the've gone up.  Wow someone has you hosed....kids dont have to be vaccinated to attend school.





That isn't correct. The pertussis rate has been on the rise compared to what they were in the 1980's, but it is still significantly lower than what it was before the vaccine. Before the vaccine, the rate averaged ~157 per 100,000. Now it is more like 1-5 per 100,000 (depending on where you live). I'd call that a significant drop. But I will agree that kids don't need to be vaccinated to attend school - exemptions are available. And the states where the exemptions are easiest to attain have the highest pertussis rates:



http://www.chop.edu/consumer/jsp/divisio...

Jen - posted on 10/02/2009

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Both my husband and I had all our vaccines and therefore our daughter also gets all of hers. She's a very smart and active 22 month old. I haven't come across any research yet that would defer my decision on not giving her shots. I would rather her get a small cold after a shot then to risk it being a childhood illness that could end in death.

Amber - posted on 10/02/2009

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Vaccinating is a personal decision you make for your child and either way you are not wrong or a bad parent. You people are ridiculous really allow people to decide for themselves. It is a debated topic in our house and we don't agree. My son's father has never been vaccinated and is very healthy and I have been vaccinated and I too am very healthy. He doesn't agree with them and I have enough fear or illness to vaccinate my son, but I did not agree with starting them at birth and I do not agree with getting several shots at once. My son sees a dr. that specializes in vaccinations and also agrees that shots that young and having multiple shots is not nessesary but rather done for the parent to not have to keep coming back. I recently started vaccinations and only do one shot a month. I choose what I feel is the safest way to vaccinate and really don't care what other people think.

Alyssa - posted on 10/02/2009

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Quoting Chelsea:



I am not rtrying to be mean but iwhopping cough and Polio are still around because of parents like you!  Are you going to home school your children? because without those vaccinations they will not let them in to public school. I just don't understand why some parents will put their children in harms way because you think someing will happen they have been giving these shots for a very long time if they didnt do what they said they do then why are they still using them?





Actually no they arent....the rates of people being vaccinated for whooping cough are in excess of the rates postulated to create "herd immunity" (80%) and we still have more cases of it PER CAPITA then at any time proior to mass vaccination.  If it provided even MINIMAL protection we would see the incidences come down....they have not, the've gone up.  Wow someone has you hosed....kids dont have to be vaccinated to attend school.

Alyssa - posted on 10/02/2009

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It is true that our bodies produce formaldyhyde... But that's not a license to inject even more. It can be formed in the body when methanol is oxidised. The enzyme, aldehyde oxidase catalyses the oxidation of toxic formaldehyde to the less toxic formic acid. Methanol can damage the thymus, damage the optic nerve, cause headaches, nausea, neuralgia, neuritis, neuropathy tinnitus. It's a component of...wait for it...aspartame. Which we all know (or should know) is bad news. Very low rate of excretion, so it's a cumulative toxin.

Chelsea - posted on 10/02/2009

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Quoting Alyssa:

poi·son (poizn)
n.
1. A substance that causes injury, illness, or death, especially by chemical means.
2. Something destructive or fatal.
3. Chemistry & Physics A substance that inhibits another substance or a reaction: a catalyst poison.
tr.v. poi·soned, poi·son·ing, poi·sons
1. To kill or harm with poison.
2. To put poison on or into: poisoning arrows; poisoned the drink.
3.
a. To pollute: Noxious fumes poison the air. See Synonyms at contaminate.
b. To have a harmful influence on; corrupt: Jealousy poisoned their friendship.
4. Chemistry & Physics To inhibit (a substance or reaction).
adj.

Yes the things that are in vaccines are in fact poison. Aluminum, formaldehyde and ethylene glycol phenyl ether (a component of anti-freeze) are all in fact a poison. Whooping cough and polio is still around because vaccines are not 100% and in fact many cases of Polio were CAUSED by the vaccine itself. The whooping cough vaccine doesnt even provide minimal protection. We have more cases PER ca pita then at ANYTIME since prior to mass vaccination.


I am not rtrying to be mean but iwhopping cough and Polio are still around because of parents like you!  Are you going to home school your children? because without those vaccinations they will not let them in to public school. I just don't understand why some parents will put their children in harms way because you think someing will happen they have been giving these shots for a very long time if they didnt do what they said they do then why are they still using them?

Mrs - posted on 10/02/2009

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hi! i strongly recommend the vaccinations, only because you dont want her to get measles , mumps or rubella... an MMR SHOT, Now you can tell your doctor that you want them separatly when the time comes.. those 3 (MMR) shots are mixed into one shot... if you separate them you will be fine... the shot is usually given at about 12 months.. all other shots are safe...

I would rather give them the vaccinations because i can prevent my child from a deathly disease.. I can deal with Autism.. which BTW my son has.. but there is no proof in vaccinations doing it... People who OPT out on the Shots, their children STILL get Autism... So you would be safer getting the shots, than not!



My 2nd Son got all of the vaccines and he is perfect!!! SO i know its not vaccines...

Alyssa - posted on 10/01/2009

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poi·son (poizn)
n.
1. A substance that causes injury, illness, or death, especially by chemical means.
2. Something destructive or fatal.
3. Chemistry & Physics A substance that inhibits another substance or a reaction: a catalyst poison.
tr.v. poi·soned, poi·son·ing, poi·sons
1. To kill or harm with poison.
2. To put poison on or into: poisoning arrows; poisoned the drink.
3.
a. To pollute: Noxious fumes poison the air. See Synonyms at contaminate.
b. To have a harmful influence on; corrupt: Jealousy poisoned their friendship.
4. Chemistry & Physics To inhibit (a substance or reaction).
adj.

Yes the things that are in vaccines are in fact poison. Aluminum, formaldehyde and ethylene glycol phenyl ether (a component of anti-freeze) are all in fact a poison. Whooping cough and polio is still around because vaccines are not 100% and in fact many cases of Polio were CAUSED by the vaccine itself. The whooping cough vaccine doesnt even provide minimal protection. We have more cases PER ca pita then at ANYTIME since prior to mass vaccination.

Aveley - posted on 10/01/2009

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There isn't poison in vaccines. You are knowingly exposing your child to serious, fatal illnesses by not vaccinating them. Well meaning parents who didn't vaccinate their children in the 70s are the reason that childhood illnesses such as whooping cough & polio still exist in our community. By not vaccinating your children you are allowing these diseases to continue to harm future generations.

Alyssa - posted on 10/01/2009

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We dont vaccinate...you need to make that decision for yourself though. But we couldnt knowingly inject our children with the poison that is in vaccines.

Miranda - posted on 10/01/2009

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I know it's controversial, but I think vaccinations are best! That's why God made people smart enough to create them!! The first time I saw my daughter get shots, I cried my eyes out. She didn't even shed a tear, just screamed because you have to hold their little legs still. As soon as I picked her up, it was as if nothing had ever happened! She'll be fine mama, a little needle prick is much better than a horrible illness that could turn out awfuL!

Aveley - posted on 09/30/2009

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I have a 2.5 year old and an almost 1 year old and they are both fully vaccinated.
Its scary the first time (I cried more than my daughter) but within a couple of minutes its as if nothing ever happened. Both my kids experienced a little fever afterwards so I gave them baby panadol but that's as bad as it got. Significantly better than them being crippled by polio or getting whooping cough or worse.

Autumn - posted on 09/30/2009

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It depends on your life situation. I am a SAHM. I didnt let stangers touch my son, and still dont eps with H1N1, DH will get that vaccine but my child came into this world poison free and will remain so for as long as I am in control.

Samantha - posted on 09/30/2009

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If ya don't want anything to happen to your child....then you need to vaccinate the child.... The side effects could maybe happen where if your child is exposed then will most likely contract that sickness. Its a mothers job to do whatever they can to help prevent their child from getting sick. Just my opinion. :) Good luck deciding. I know it's more and more difficult these days!!

Autumn - posted on 09/30/2009

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Read the vaccine book by Dr Sears son Dr Sears...lol

Also Dr. Mercola has great info. My 8 month old son is very healthy. Are you BFing?

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I've had my son vaccinated on schedule with no problems. I'd suggest you do some research yourself to come to a decision you are comfortable with. And certainly be careful what you read - many things out there on the internet are not reliable sources of information. Take the time you need to make sure you are making an informed choice. Here are a few good resources to get you started:

http://www.chop.edu/consumer/jsp/divisio...

http://www.cispimmunize.org/fam/Compare%...

http://www.immunize.org/catg.d/p4038.pdf

http://www.immunize.org/catg.d/p2068.pdf

Shayna - posted on 09/30/2009

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In my opinion, I would rather my child have the shots and maybe get mildly sick, than have her not get the shots and contract the disease the shots are meant to prevent. My daughter got her 2 month shots at 6 weeks and was fine, and she will be getting her 4 month shots at the end of this month. Either way, it is your decision. It's your child, and you will decide what's best for him/her.

Mariana - posted on 09/30/2009

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I think children needs vacines. My sone is 16 months now and he up to date with all his shots. HE is a healthy but energetic child. You should go for it.

Aleshia - posted on 09/30/2009

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This is a very relevant topic in our home. I have done a lot of research regarding both sides :) In fact, I have also written a couple of articles on the subject of childhood vaccinations too.



We chose to forego vaccinations. My son is 13 months old and has not received any of his vaccinations. We haven't completely eliminated the prospect; however, we feel that at his young age, now is not the time. I feel more comfortable allowing his body to build up immunities for a couple of years, without toxins hindering the process. Once he is older and his immune system stronger, we may re-consider several different vaccines.



Childhood vaccinations undeniably encompass a surfeit of benefits as well as uncertainties. When parents are faced with precarious decisions, such as those covered within the realm of childhood vaccinations, the greatest method for arriving at a conclusion will unquestionably be unique for each parent. “The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance” –Socrates (469 BC-399 BC). Although decision-making can be tremendously complicated, making an informed decision regarding childhood vaccinations is one of the greatest measures that a parent can perform.



I wouldn't mind sending you a copy of my article titled Childhood Vaccinations: Making an Informed Decision if you are interested in reading an overview regarding the topic.



Good luck!



Aleshia

Tara - posted on 09/30/2009

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I cannot say this enough. Research yourself. Vaccinations are a very up in the air debate on if they are good or not. I did reasearch and decided the risk was worth it and had my kids vaccinated. however the swine flu vaccine is too rushed and is not even safe for infants. They give a child the same dose they would a 350lbs man!!! In my opinion the swine flu vaccine is going to give us a bunch of walking zombies.

Josiris - posted on 09/30/2009

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i agree.. especially since i've heard some side effects for the swine flu vaccination are horrible, and i'm afraid of my baby getting it when she is born.

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i was fright at first not know much bout any of it but when the time came i decide to get it done for the long run its betterto get it done for ur child. and u feel better knowing there protected

Ashley - posted on 09/30/2009

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I recommend you research both sides before making a decision. My six month old has received every vaccine on schedule, and he is perfectly healthy. I myself received all my vaccines and nothing is wrong with me! No children I know had any issues from vaccines.

But, I am not here to TELL you what to do. Research both sides and ask around to friends and family members to see what they have chosen.

Personally I would rather have my son be vaccinated than get some disease that should not be around anymore.

Joi - posted on 09/30/2009

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Well i have a 15 month old who has had every vaccination since birth and he is fine. it is all about what you are comfortable with and there really are no scientific studies that have proven vaccinations cause problem. but only do what you are comfortable with.

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