waking 22month old juat wonts to talk and play at 3am

Shandy - posted on 08/17/2009 ( 31 moms have responded )

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i have a 22month old son who wakes during the night and wants to talk and play wont go back to sleep he can be awake for upto 3hrs before he tires himself out and finally goes back to sleep...he's stil in his cot i dont take him out nor do i enter the room found this just makes it worse..just wondering if any one else is experiencing this or have and what can i do to stop it??? been going on now for months...

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Meghann - posted on 05/20/2013

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My 32 month old is the same-except worse. We put her to bed at 8:30pm, she runs and plays for an hour and a half before we can actually get her to stay in her bed. I have put darkening shades up in her room, so it's pitch black and I don't understand how she can see anything. Now, that being said, what she plays with is-the curtains and blinds, destroying books in her shelf, pulling out dresser drawers. This stuff usually happens in the mornings more so than the nights. AND THE "MORNINGS". Yeah, 3:30-4am mornniings, EXCEPT, she has no want for a nap during the day. Once unsupervised, my child goes insane-no, she doesn't cry for me, she refuses to co-sleep, she just wants to destroy without suffering consequences. From 3:30 on, my husband and I are putting her back to bed, back to bed, back to bed, until around 7:30. (I have to tell you, we go to bed at 11pm, an hour after she's settled, just to be sure) and 4 hours is not cutting it for US, let alone her). So this morning, my husband and I never heard her for a half an hour because we just DIED from sleep deprivation. The curtains were down, her wall decorations were down (which means she is putting herself in the way of danger by climbing on her furniture (which I have drilled into the wall because she pulled the dresser over, nearly on top of herself.). I am so afraid she is going to hurt herself. She is so destructive-I've never seen another child like this! Anyway, after her 5 1/2 hoour sleep, she's geared to go another full day and continue into the night/morning with the same behaviour. I don't know what to tell you, Shandy, only that my tot is a year older than yours, and it gets worse. I've tried googling stuff, but she doesn't cry for ME to go in to her, she just wakes up and starts destroying-IMMEDIATELY. I don`t understand........she NEVER walks, ALWAYS running, and she just never stops long enough-why isn`t she tired?!

Brandi - posted on 08/21/2009

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I suggest that you take him on a walk around the neighborhood maybe 3 or 4 blocks before you start your bedtime routine,it really helps both of my boys although I usually wind up carrying my younger one after the first 2 blocks lol

Edyta - posted on 08/20/2009

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your baby shoulld sleep at least one time a day around 12 -1pm (he should sleep 2-3 h)then if you put him to sleep at 8-9 pm to sleep i think he will sleep all night

Sophia - posted on 08/20/2009

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My daughter is about 17 months old. What I do is put her to bed by 8-830pm with a sippy cup; usually of milk, but it's also sometimes water. I use to rock her to sleep and then put her in her crib and now I just set her in their with the sippy cup and she goes right to sleep. She usually wakes up around 7 am. Then she takes a nap at 9 am and sleeps about 2 hours, also with the sippy cup (normally water or flavored water) then she goes down again in the afternoon around 2 or 3p and sleeps about an hour. I had the same problem your having. What I started doing when she woke up in the middle of the night, I would just let her cry herself back to sleep. At first, there was a couple of nights where she cried for about 2 hours. After just a couple of times of her doing that; she pretty much got figured it out. It was very hard to have to hear her cry for that long, but it seemed to work. Now she just knows that it's time to sleep. And she sleeps through the night. Once in awhile I will here her cry during the night, but it's not for long. She has figured out how to get herself back to sleep. I also put her to bed with a blanket and stuffed animal, so that she would have some way to comfort herself during the few nights that she does wake up. It seems cruel and if felt very cruel, but it was my last resort; I tried a lot of different stuff. It never worked for me. So if all else fails, you can try that! Good Luck!!

Fanny - posted on 08/19/2009

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2 months ago i got the same problem. my 19 months old son wakes up during the nights and wants to watch tv or play. he also can be awake for up to 3-4 hours. he still do that sometimes.

Emma - posted on 08/19/2009

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I have three children ranging from 5-nearly 2yrs and they all had the same problem at the same age. I stopped naps during the day and stopped thier bottles day and night they soon stopped waking during the night and Adam(the youngest) now sleeps from 6:30pm to 7am in the morning the other 2 go bed at 7pm and sleep til 7am. Maybe you should shorten his naps and get him off the bottle,it will be hard for the 1st few days but it will get better. Entice him to stay awake with fun games or to play outside with you.

Katrisha Ann - posted on 08/19/2009

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I would say that he sleeps too early during the night. My daughter follows this schedule strictly:
7am- wakes up
12nn - sleeps
3pm-wakes up
9pm-sleeps
I think you need to make him tired by letting him play or play with him in between.
Hope this helps!

Shandy - posted on 08/18/2009

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hes used a sipper cup since he was walking which was 8 months old only has bottle before bed..

Katelynne - posted on 08/18/2009

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I guess what I'm getting at is, #1) if he's not using a cup during the day, try to get him switched over. Better for his teeth and such.

#2) if he IS getting all the milk he needs during his meal/snack times, and the bottle is just a comfort thing, then it's definitely time to do away with it. tomorrow night, reduce the amount of total fluid that you give him - if you're giving him 6 oz now, then tomorrow cut it down to 4 or 5 oz. He may protest, but when the milk is gone, that's simply it. You don't refill it. he'll get over it. You may want to continue to give him 4 oz for a few days, then cut it to 2 oz for a few days, and finally cut it out totally. If he's actually thirsty, he can have water in a sippy cup.



So, try gradually getting his bedtime to about 8:00 pm, and gradually waiting to get him out of bed until 7:00 am. It WILL come. It will take time, don't get discouraged.



Keep us updated :D

Katelynne - posted on 08/18/2009

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He'll get there. it's very likely that he may need a later bedtime, and the reason he's so grumpy by 7:30 is because he was up half the night, but if he was sleeping through the night he'd probably be ready for bed a little later. It's a vicious cycle! But you can fix it.



Ok - now on the bottle issue - is he getting milk with his dinner? I mean, he's getting the appropriate amount of milk during the day, so the bedtime bottle just giving him extra milk? Also, does he use a cup during the day?

Shandy - posted on 08/18/2009

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ok wil try that. last night we did keep him up til 7:45 he slept trough til 4:30 then that was it no more sleep after that..i also watered down that night time bottle half milk half water...

Katelynne - posted on 08/18/2009

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Shandy, one think I would like to say is that if you are going to move his bedtime, do this in 15 minute increments. For example, tomorrow wait till 7:45 to put him down, and do that for 2 or 3 days. After that move it to 8:00 and do that for 2 or 3 days. Also, if he's still waking up at 6 am, begin to wait longer and longer (15 minute increments)before going in to get him. He should be sleeping around 11 hours each night, so if you're putting him down, let's say, at 8:00 pm, you shouldn't get him out of be until 7 am. He will react better if it's done gradually.



Keep your head up. This IS something that is fix-able, you just have to find the right tools :) I've had 3 kids who were NOT good sleepers, and now I have 3 kids who sleep peacefully through the night. It can be done, so don't give up.

Shandy - posted on 08/18/2009

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thank you for all your ideas wil try putting him down later at night again... glad im not the only one Heather nice to hear that some one else has the same thing happening which also tels me maybe its just a stage a faise... lets hope..
he's not in daycare hanna and i put him down early because this is when hes sleepy tired and grumpy...thats why i gave up on putting himdown later didnt want him to be over tired..

Angela - posted on 08/18/2009

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i would put him to bed later and cut the bottle out. my son is a year old and he eats at 630 (has milk in a sippy cup for dinner) then get's his bath at 8. Straight to bed after that until 9 the next morning. takes maybe a one/two hour nap through out the day.

Heather - posted on 08/18/2009

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okay just thought you should know that my daughter is 21 months old and is doing the EXACT same thing. I felt like you were talking about my daughter when you were explaining your child. She goes down for a nap around 11am and sleeps till about 1ish. She goes to bed at 7 or 7:30 because she is so grumpy by then. Wakes up at 12am and we battle until 2am...she is in a todler bed so it's even worse! I put up a baby gate last night so that she couldn't escape from her room and gave her a few toys to play with because obviously she was doing this in her crib it is just that she couldn't get up so we never heard her. I really need sleep!

Katelynne - posted on 08/18/2009

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Shoot! I typed a huge post last night but lost it. I'll retype later today.

Hanna - posted on 08/18/2009

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i would also say, make sure he's worn out -- take him outside to run around or to swim (if available) -- great way to get them tired. and the habit won't break in one night, it might take several days, but when he's tired the next day, maybe let him have an early nap, but nap but not a later one to make sure that he's nice and tired by the time that second night rolls around and again, keep him up until about 9pm (at this point, he probably will be cranky), however the bath time routine should help with that.

also, may i ask if he's in daycare? why are you putting him to bed so early? or rather, why do you want him up so early? my family works slightly odd hours (restaurant industry) so our son sleeps 12:30 am till about 10 am. when i was growing up, i slept 9pm -7am and then a 2 hour nap from 1:30-3:30 or something like that (when i was in kindergarten, but that routine started long before and seemed to have worked fine as mommy & daddy had extra 2-3 hours to themselves after i went to bed and i didn't get up before 7, which was great because my parents could actually get a bit of sleep without worrying that i will destroy the house (my sister did, several times, she was an early riser & refused to sleep more than 8 hrs a night so would wake up at 5-6 am, quietly climb out of her crib & go through everything she could her little hands on -- from drawing all over my homework to trying to eat the cat food (back then the cat ate off the table, thank God and it was moved higher up once we caught her doing it), etc. etc.)

Hanna - posted on 08/18/2009

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Quoting Shandy:

he's in a night time schedule. dinner at 6pm bath at 7pm bottle at 7:20 then straight to bed at 7:30.. he does sleep any where from 1 and half to 2 hrs during the day...this is normally at 11 he'll go down for his nap..he doesn't cry in his cot just laughs and plays. im the type of mum though that if he's awake then i cant sleep dont know why but thats just me...


i'm going to say that he's going to bed a little early. see if you can keep him up until about 9pm and wear him out before bed & then relaxing bath, story time & sleep. as things stand, you want him to sleep at least 11 hrs a night (7:30pm to i presume at least 6-6:30am) and he doesn't seem to be needing as much,  so you can either let it be and have him wake up at crazy hours of the night (which might pose a problem once he figures out how to get out of his crib) or adjust the schedule and put him down maybe 2 hours later so that his 8 hours of sleep end at 5 am and if he gets in an extra hour then great, you'll get to sleep until 7 :). good luck!

Hanna - posted on 08/18/2009

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Quoting Shandy:

he's in a night time schedule. dinner at 6pm bath at 7pm bottle at 7:20 then straight to bed at 7:30.. he does sleep any where from 1 and half to 2 hrs during the day...this is normally at 11 he'll go down for his nap..he doesn't cry in his cot just laughs and plays. im the type of mum though that if he's awake then i cant sleep dont know why but thats just me...


i'm going to say that he's going to bed a little early. see if you can keep him up until about 9pm and wear him out before bed & then relaxing bath, story time & sleep. as things stand, you want him to sleep at least 11 hrs a night (7:30pm to i presume at least 6-6:30am) and he doesn't seem to be needing as much,  so you can either let it be and have him wake up at crazy hours of the night (which might pose a problem once he figures out how to get out of his crib) or adjust the schedule and put him down maybe 2 hours later so that his 8 hours of sleep end at 5 am and if he gets in an extra hour then great, you'll get to sleep until 7 :). good luck!

Shandy - posted on 08/17/2009

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yeah have tried later makes no difference...no have never rocked him to sleep has always fallen asleep on his own...

Erica - posted on 08/17/2009

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try putting him to bed a little later...like 8:30, i dont see the bottle being the problem, myalmost 3 yr old takes one before bed yes i know ur gonna ask why he is on a bottle @ 3...so ill tell u...he is autistic and its a habit he wont break. But anyhoo its probably a stage, he may just need a later bedtime now that he is older. Ive always had to adjust my kids bedtimes as they got older. Its worth a shot!

Katelynne - posted on 08/17/2009

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I'm going to look up some stuff in my sleep problems book and post some more to you.

Katelynne - posted on 08/17/2009

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I think it will be better for him if, instead of giving him a bottle at bed, give him that milk with his dinner. My youngest (twins) are 18months, and they also have dinner at 6 pm, which includes milk, then they have a bath and also go to bed at 7:30 pm. Really, at his age, there's no reason (nutritionally) to be giving him any extra milk right before bed. Think about if YOU eat 10 minutes before you head off to bed...could you sleep? :) If it's a comfort thing, then replace it with something else he can associate with bedtime.

Shandy - posted on 08/17/2009

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nah he wakes at round 12 mid night every night wake til 3ish then awake again at 6am...did think that so your suggesting maybe stop this bottle before bed?

Katelynne - posted on 08/17/2009

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So, is he awake from 3 am to 6 am and then gets out of bed at 6?

Also, I want to ask you about his dinner/bottle routine - at 22 months, why is he still getting a bottle before bed? Part of the problem (no, it's not the main cause, but it could be contributing) may be that he's getting a kick of calories too close to bedtime.

Shandy - posted on 08/17/2009

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since he's been doing this its 6am...

do leave him in his cot til 7am hoping he'll go back to sleep never works

Katelynne - posted on 08/17/2009

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Ok, that actually sounds like a pretty good schedule. What time does he wake in the morning?

Shandy - posted on 08/17/2009

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he's in a night time schedule. dinner at 6pm bath at 7pm bottle at 7:20 then straight to bed at 7:30.. he does sleep any where from 1 and half to 2 hrs during the day...this is normally at 11 he'll go down for his nap..he doesn't cry in his cot just laughs and plays. im the type of mum though that if he's awake then i cant sleep dont know why but thats just me...

Katelynne - posted on 08/17/2009

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Hi there! Ok, first, I want to ask if your son is on a schedule. Just from reading this, it seems like he might not be on a schedule. Second, does he take a long nap, or too many naps during the day?

If he is staying in his crib, not crying out for you, and not causing any REAL problems, then for the time being I'd say just let him be. It may be a 'stage' and soon enough, he'll figure out there's no reason to be awake (you're not going in to talk to him, he's not going to get out of bed, there's nothing in it for him if he's awake at 3 am). If he's not on a schedule, get him on one. I know this can sound like a monumental task, but I'll help if you need it.

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