Why is it so hard to find quality childcare...

Katarina - posted on 05/28/2010 ( 36 moms have responded )

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I'm trying to find care for my son in the $600 range for 4 days per week. Yes I know it's not a lot of money but It's all we can afford right now.



The only responses I've gotten are nasty emails telling me that I shouldn't of had children if I can't afford childcare, hello!!



I had no intentions of going back to work but financial matters changed and now I need to go back.



Should my child not be entitled to the same quality of care because I can't afford $900 a month?



Should I not be able to work and manage life as well?



I don't feel that I should have to sell a kidney so that my son can be in care while I have to go to work.



I understand that care providers need to make a living as well but if they take in 4 kids at $600.month thats $2400/month untaxed! that's twice as much as i'll be making if not more and they are able to stay home with their babies all day.

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Heather - posted on 05/28/2010

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Look for an inhome provider. In this area there are a ton of SAHM trying to make a few extra $ a month. I know craigslist is getting some bad press but I have had 1 bad sitters from there and 2 sitters that were the best things ever! and the 1 bad sitter was when I was desperate to not loose my job so I didnt do as good of a job as I should have in the interviewing process. I am a single mom (no child support) so I have VERY tight finances.

My current sitter is a SAHM with her 2 kids. She only watches her 2, mine, and one baby 2 months younger (so my 13 month old and an 11 month old) she charges me $75/wk or $300/mo basically and when she is sick she credits me for a day!

My biggest recommendation would be not to find someone whos "doing you a favor" by watching him for a lesser rate. That's what caused issues with my one bad sitter. That and she kept complaining my son was hard to work with, his only issue is he doesnt like to be left alone in a room. I still keep in contact with his first sitter (sha had to stop daycare because of getting pregnant with twins) and when I told her that she was appauled because she had my son from 7 weeks to 7 months and he's a totally mello child, he was an amazing baby, totally calm and only really cried when hungry or really hurting.

but $600/mo is $150 a week. I know daycare centers get more expensive then that in alot of areas so I would really recommend a SAHM or in-home provider licensed with the state.

Also if youre looking into a SAHM most will charge one rate if they provide food and another rate if You proivde food. My sitter charges me the same even thoguh I offered to pay her more because my son wants to eat anythign she's eating, so he eats what I take him for lunch, refuses the snacks I pack and eats with her too.

Her Mom is her cover, which is who he is with now because she is on vacation, and he has her wrapped around his finger! SHe feeds him anythign including popsicles!

Oh! also with a SAHM I provided my most current one with a carseat (her request) and permission to take my son on errands with her. Yes it is a risk, BUT if they are with a family member they will more then likely end up on errands with them too. And it allows her to do more so I have no issue with it. She has even taken them to Chuck E Cheese and the zoo with her older kids, since they dont charge her for under 2 yrs at the zoo she doesnt charge me or the other mom extra for outings. Also, she is available to us for late nights and overnights, she prefers the babies be with her since they are comfortable with her, and she never charges us extra when our work days run over due to emergencies! She understand me being a single mom so she has even told me to go get my nails done (they were looking bad) she would be expecting me late and she would feed my son dinner!

It may be a little trial and error but I would definently recommend looking into that

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Deb - posted on 02/27/2013

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maybe I can help. Have you thought about a live in Au Pair? Much less expensive than a baby sitter or nanny. The cost works out to $355 per week. That's under 8.00 per hour. And you are eligible for childcare credits. The state department does require that the Au pair have her own room and they can't work more than a 45 hour week. This cost is per family NOT per child.

Contact me if you would like more information. I am happy to share what I know.
Deborah@getthatjobtoday.com

Danielle - posted on 05/30/2010

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I totally agree with you. I can't totally relate since I never went back because it didn't make financial sense for me to go. We aren't exactly in the BEST position as one income, but we also managed to get by well enough to stay afloat.

Just a suggestion, though. I actually did start to care for a baby in my home, and I only charge them 550/month. I know it's probably not as much as I could charge, but I'm not a professional, and I was lucky enough to meet people who were willing to get to know me, and trust me. I have an 22 month old daughter, and just wanted to try to have a little extra money for the household. I posted on craigslist and in a couple of local newspapers, and met a wonderful family through craigslist who were just looking for an alternative to normal daycare with a ratio of 4:1, babies to providers.

I'm telling you this because I know I'm not the only person who does this, it's just a matter of whether you are willing to trust a stranger with your baby in their home, and finding someone who isn't going to rob you blind. We do exist! And I feel just as lucky as they do to have come to this agreement. I can stay home with my own daughter, ease some financial burden for us, and get to care for a little baby all day, while they get more personal and flexible child care for their child.

Keep looking, and always go with your instincts.

Michelle - posted on 05/30/2010

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I suggest you attempt to find something run out of a home. I run a home daycare and am the least expensive in my area. I only charge $23 a day with two snacks and lunch included. Plus I give reciepts. As for other care givers in my area the most expensive is $30 a day. I hope you find something soon!

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I am a dayhome provider, and to be legit and not get shut down it has to be taxed at the same rate as other jobs. Also, I know in some areas you have to be licensed to take more than 2 kids, so that could be a part of driving up costs.

Jessi - posted on 05/30/2010

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HOLY ****! $600 for a 4 day week? i take my son to kindercare (idk if they are in your area) but i am only charged $176 for a 5 day work week & less if i notify them in advance that he will not be there certain days. that is absolutely insane to be charging that much.

Rebecca - posted on 05/30/2010

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Well Jen something is going terribly wrong then with your numbers because at the end of the year you should be writing off the food, drinks, toys and cleaning supplies. My neighbor makes about 2400 a month with 5 kids in her homes and this year she only paid 30$. Last year she got 15$ back. There is always a profit, even when i did care for a few months and i still made a profit. I'm not too sure what you are feeding the kids either if you are only making a 20$ profit lol.
Do you have someone do your yearly taxes or do you do them yourself?
Katarina, if you were in MB i am moving there in a month and i would have loved to have looked after your pride and joy.
I';m so glad you were able to find someone, and yes BC is very expensive but min wage is also a hell of a lot more then it is where i am right now,NB(it's only 8.25 i think) But it's going up to 10$ in Sept of next year so i'm sure child care will rise as well.
Good luck and i hope it works out:)

Jen - posted on 05/30/2010

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i do daycare
lets look at the 2400 that a daycare person is getting, with that money you have feed the kids, have toys and other supplies like, cleaning stuff, toilet paper everything need to run and take care of children. all this iswhat you have to buy, plus you DO have to pay taxes at then end of the year i have to paid the irs between 200 to almost 1000 .... there are months i make a profit of only $20, that why daycare is so much,

Heather - posted on 05/29/2010

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Yay! I'm so glad you found someone! And under your goal amount which means you come out even better going back to work!

Katarina - posted on 05/29/2010

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Hi ladies! I'm in British Columbia, Canada. We do have Child care subsidy but we don't fall under their wage bracket. The average cost for care here is $700-$1100/ month for a child under 3. Over three can go anywhere from $400-$700/month. We do come back on top with me going back to work, and I did try starting a daycare but with so much competition waiting to find a child wasn't good for us.

I found a wonderful woman that runs a small care out of her home and she'll be charging us $450/month including snacks, drink and lunch. It's a 15 minute walks from home which is lovely because I don't drive.

I'm happy and comfortable with my decision and he'll start a week Monday, with practice visits this monday and tuesday.

Thank you so much ladies! I'm glad to see I'm not alone.

Thanks for all the ideas to, you ladies rock!

Sheryl - posted on 05/29/2010

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its not right and don't feel bad! no one should pass judgement on you! they don't live your life you do. your child does and des. the best child care.have you tried going to like your DHR or call your local gov. there in my state is a child care voucher program to where they are able to be in great child care systems and it helps with the money issue! a nanny may also work! best of luck!

Rebecca - posted on 05/29/2010

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Where in the lord do you live that 600 isn't taxed and that's only for one kid. I do childcare and i charge 400-500 a month. 400 if they don't want receipt and 500 if they do, everything is included for the child except formula if they are still on it and diapers.

I can not believe it's so expensive, i'm just in shock! And if there is more then one kid they get 100 off a month so it would only be 900max! with receipt!!

I also am left wondering if it is that much, will you make any money by going back to work? Have you considered taking in a child or 2 yourself and doing it cheaper for the others who are like you in your area who can't afford the going rate? You might be surprised by how much you can bring in:)

Have you considered getting childcare assistance, if it's available where you are?

I wish you luck and yes your child deserves the same care as anyone else! I think it's outrageous that they want more then that!

Amity - posted on 05/29/2010

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hi i can help u i work in childcare my 8mth is there with me we are a highly accred centre going through acrred next mth we are located in brentwood kidz kingdom child care 80 dollar a day but also depends on your perc from centrelink and child care rebate come and check out the centre phone number is 93642695 open 6.30 till 6pm hope this helps

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Huh, it was $175 for kindercare here for a FT week? When I went back to work my husband works days and I mostly did nights. This made it so my son was only in daycare for 5-20 hrs. per wk. Otherwise we wouldn't have been able to swing it either...I currently only work weekends because we don't want our baby in daycare, they cost more too, and my min.wage job isn't worth it! We made

Andrea - posted on 05/28/2010

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I guess it depends on your area how much care costs. Here I would have to pay $100 a week for my 2 year old for daycare. I charge about $70 a week for the children I watch. I stay home with my daughter and watch a 4 year old when hes not in pre-k. I do it because it would pay for me to go back to work. I would make $100 a week after daycare so I work out of my home, dont waste money on gas and am going to try to take on 1 or 2 more kids in the next 6 months.

Kimberly - posted on 05/28/2010

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I don't know how old your son is but I would definately recommend looking into a dayhome type setting. I watch 2 kids in my house and I charge 33.00 a day for the 18 month old. Around here the average for a dayhome is 30.00-40.00 per day and I'm not exactly sure what the centers cost but I know my friend was paying 55.00 for her 2 year old. I am not licensed but some are and you can also find someone that is at least registered(they have to do classes and stuff just don't have a strict of guidelines regarding the home.) You may have to do a bit more interviewing and digging around for references etc with a dayhome but it may end up being worth it in the long run. Your son may end up getting more one on one time and if you find a good provider they will still have the arts/crafts and teaching aspect involved. You can tell a lot of time by looking at the home. Do you see art projects hanging up, outside toys, child orientated spaces etc. Good luck keep looking and you will find someone that will help you!

Valerie - posted on 05/28/2010

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I absolutely agree! I am in the same boat as you right now. I have to put my son in daycare in 2 months when he is 8 months old for 4 days a week because I have to go back to work. There is no way we can afford our mortgage and all the other bills with only one income. We will be spending $215 a week which is a lot of money!

Schyla - posted on 05/28/2010

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It's not a nice option but you might want to see if you qulify for child care assistance even if they only pay a % of the childcare and you pay what you can afford. the other option might be to hire a private part time care provider (checking backgrounds and such) there might be a young lady in your neighbor hood who could do it for the summer and 600 a month would be perfect for like a 17 year old and it will buy you time to find a center that you can afford.

Heather - posted on 05/28/2010

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Oh and I realize one of my sentences my have been misleading a SAHM isnt licensed but there are in home state licensed providers too.

My current sitter isnt licensed but I think he gets better care then ALOT of places

Heather - posted on 05/28/2010

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Oh Also! I dont claim my childcare on taxes because I pay such a low rate, its your call since you would be paying up to double what I am, but its worth it to me not to claim it when i pay 1/2 to 1/4 of what most others pay for a much more flexible provider

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i forgot to mention she is 8 going on 9 and she is still attending, my son as well. I am a single mom and have goverment assistance, I agree that paying for child care more than what you will pay when your kids go to college...I have a very low-incom job, but am trying to pursue for something better, if I pay cash for daycare it will cost me $500/monthly which I will pay when my income increases...

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hello ladies, I have my kids in a Home Daycare...I was very skeptical at first, I was working fulltime and after trying unsucessfully with family and friends I tried the Home Daycare, It was a blessing..my daughter 2 at the time, walked in the first day and I cried my way to work while she played and when I went to pick her up she said, hey, u here allweady!! lol! but I was lucky, your child will let you know from the beginning if they like it or not, there are many signs that will signal something is wrong or right!

Katarina - posted on 05/28/2010

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Good idea. I did interview a few teen girls, but they'd only be available for the summer and then back to school. A Nanny charges $!5/hour or up to $3000/month, really can't afford that, haha.

The benefits of Zack being in a childcare setting are far better. He'd get to play with other children.

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oo heres something else.. now what about looking into a nanny , so to speak.. maybe a young girl.. you'd obviously have to interview them completely, make sure they have their head on straight.. in my neighborhood we have a newsletter that comes out monthly. and teens put in that theyre av for sitting, house chores, etc.. or maybe look in the paper or put an ad in? like i said it would be a stranger at first to you, you'd have to dig a lil check out references etc

Katarina - posted on 05/28/2010

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Thanks for the comment, but it isn't the information I was looking for. I understand you're trying to help but those types of comments in my situation don't help in the least.

Marisa - posted on 05/28/2010

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No one is as good of a daycare as you the mother! Cut expenses or move in with family if you have to but your children need their mom more...

Katarina - posted on 05/28/2010

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Not in my area, no. My closest friend/family lives 30 minutes away and works an hour away, downtown. Not helpful. But I have asked anyways. Parents all work full time and even my MIL that stops working in October said she wouldn't watch him all the time, not that I'd want her to anyways. My husband has a co-worker with a wife that is currently on disability with an 18month old and is willing to watch him for $750 a month, but could go back to work at any time. Sigh

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i am going to keep trying lol.. does anyone you know have their kids in a home care that htey trust that is reasonable

Katarina - posted on 05/28/2010

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Thanks Laura, I did apply for child care subsidy but they do not take debt into account when approving families with daycare finances. As it stands between my husband and myself working it wouldn't help any, lol. It is reserved for families making under $50,000 a year. Which is great for those families that need it. I married into this debt and I love my husband and don't mind all that much to help him pay it down. It's our money now.

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i figured lol.. it sounds like it would be lucrative for you to go back.. i guess just try to check out the things i mentioned or see if theres gov run programs that have you pay according to what you make, i worked at a smaller ymca in ct when i first got married and it seemed to work welll for a lot of working fams! good luck hun

Katarina - posted on 05/28/2010

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I did try running a dayhome, but just couldn't do it. The only little girl I started out with spent 2 weeks crying the entire time and I was at the end of my rope. It took me 6 months to find one child to take care of.

Katarina - posted on 05/28/2010

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Not being judgemental at all Laura. If we stay on top of bills(we have quite a bit of debt), and I work f/t as well as him we'll come out okay. As it stands currently after all bills are paid we only have $200/month to pay for food and transportation. With me working we'll be able to put more towards debt and still have about $500/month for food/transportation and extras. We did weigh the pros and cons of childcare and found that up to $600 would be a perfect number for us. If I wasn't bringing in enough after paying for childcare, I wouldn't be going back ;)

Laura - posted on 05/28/2010

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I totally agree. I have two girls, and its just not even worth me going back to work after daycare cost. I stay at home with them and keep family and friends children for way less then daycares. You can make decent money doing that, if your nerves can handel a bunch of kids lol.

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i do agree that child care is rediculously expensive.. have you looked at ymcas local or maybe a church care.. or a person that does it out of their home?..also and im not trying to be judgemental at all lol but if you go back to work and have to pay for child care does you and your husbands income come out on top substantially?

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