Free Schooling

Tanya - posted on 05/24/2010 ( 14 moms have responded )

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I watched a show on this the other night. The kids were home school, but they didn't have a set schedule. If they wanted to learn about something they told their mom and that what they did that day. Sometimes they went to farmers markets, the zoo, or other educational trips. I After reading the "good job" thread it reminded me of this. I thought it was a good idea. Then I actually thought about what they were going to be like when they were adults. They have gotten to do what they want when they want. Now they will be expect to attend college class or work on time. They will have to do what the boss or teacher tell them. Not what they want.

What do you think of it

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Amy - posted on 05/24/2010

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Home schooling can actually be very effective, if done well. I get the feeling we may not be getting the entire story here, I'm hoping anyway. There definately has to be more than just the children deciding what they want to do that day. That's why we have curriculum and a schedule, because children do not know what they need to learn about. Otherwise, they wouldn't need to go to school! : ) In our area, there is a home school group families can join. I believe, I'm not positive on the workings of it, but for the home schooling to qualify by the state, there has to be some sort of program followed. If this isn't being done, then yes, the children will definately be behind and suffer come graduation time and in the work place. It certainly doesn't take all day to home school though. When you're teaching one on one like that, you can get much more accomplished in a much quicker time. I know most home schooled kids do not spend all day working. It does leave more time for field trips and hands on activities. I just hope that the children that are being home schooled have a parent doing it who knows what they're doing. It is an awful big job!

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Alavisi - posted on 08/20/2013

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This is the term that gives moms like me a bad name! I home school my children who are in 1st and 3rd grades. I am not at all pleased with the schools in my area. As a former teacher in the public school system, I quit to start home day care/home school offered to area parents. I use a curriculum and follow a set schedule. A-Beka book.com I charge a typical fee for childcare + tuition. My children range in grades from preschool -3rd grade. Its basically one-one attention, its true- we are done with ALL subjects by lunchtime. I'm sure its because of the militant-type personality that I have always been, but the term "un-schooling" generally confuses parents. Its not a traditional school, those parents who choose to "un-school" teach them what they want to be taught? Really? in my opinion- I don't believe in that. Children need rules and structure, basic guidelines to follow. In my setting , I am basically a facilitator- explaining the instructions and working with the child on the first few examples, allowing them their own time to complete the rest. Then, I come back and go over their answers. We go over what they may have missed or gotten incorrect, I allow them time to correct it themselves. Then we move on to our others subjects, lessons, reading for the day. www.littleblessing4me.com Un-schooling is NOT that!

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Tanya, I would think it would be likely that the children wouldn't be the typical robot employee 9-5. There are other occupations and they could potentially be self-driven enough to be self-employed and self-school. I read an article a while ago about Ivy League schools and top companies wanting home-schooled and unschooled (free schooled) people working for them in certain positions.

We are leaning towards unschooling. Our 3 year old has been reading for over a year, she can count to 20, etc. We lived in a country where many of the children were unschooled, and some not at all with terrible parents. As a parent of unschooled children it's the PARENT that is schooling themselves, growing, reading, they see what we do. If we sit around watching tv all day they will want to do them same. If we are continually learning, they see us reading, they see us being active, then it's natural for them to want to do those same things. When I sit our daughter at the table and teach her from a workbook she does things like this.... Book: Color this page green. Daughter: colors page blue, red, yellow, orange, anything BUT green. There's ways to learn what's necessary in life without being force fed. Statistics are much more in favor of unschooling as the brain processes the information differently.

Sally - posted on 07/28/2012

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It's called un-schooling and it's wonderful! It would never work in a class room because a teacher would never be able to keep up with everyone, but in a small group it really is the best way for most people to learn. It's the way most of humanity learned for most of history. What we have been trained to think of as "education" is actually "creating a docile work force". (If you don't believe me, look it up. The guys who came up with it weren't shy about sharing the reasons.) My kids deserve better.

As more people learn about how it works, the Ivy League has actually begun courting these students. People who will only put up with the BS of "school" to get what they need out of it, waste far fewer resources than kids who go to college because they "have to".

As for what they do when they "grow up", a lot of them are already running their own businesses in "high school". When you're allowed to explore your passions from an early age, you're more likely to figure out what you want from life sooner and not waste time on things you won't need. Also, they are less likely to chafe under the strictures of a job, because that job and the restrictions that come with it are their choice.

As for what kids "need to learn", depending on what you choose to do as an adult, with an average curriculum, you've learned 50-90% of what you'll need as an adult by the end of 5th grade. The next 7 years is specialization and review. If you're using it every day, you don't need review and the majority of that specialization is a complete waste of your time. Again, my kids deserve better.

User - posted on 07/22/2012

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My son is home schooled, he is at the table working at 9am - 1pm when he has lunch then hes back to work till 6pm. I do arts and crafts as well i follow the state curriculum. He has a tutor for violin every monday and he has a certified elementary teacher come to the house every friday afternoon to do all his basic subjects. My son is 3 and is now working through the the 1st grade curriculum. When is 5 he will be doing a private online school called Laurel springs. The people that 'homeschool' that dont really teach their children give the rest of us a bad name.



He also attends teakwando 3days a week and swimming lessons. He see his best buddy 3/4 days a week.

JuLeah - posted on 08/19/2010

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I think this method of education was amazing when it first hit the scenes (1800's) but back then, reading, writing (a bit) and basic math was all that was required. For a kid to make it in todays world, they have to know soooo much. The farmers market and the zoo are wonderful, but won't leave them ready for college. You are right, the parent is not really doing them any favors, in my opinion.

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The main problem i see with "unschooling" is that later on those same children will need to follow schedules and respect certain standards in the work place, etc... i don't think unschooling is the best way to guide our children to live within a society that runs on a "9 to 5" type of schedule.

Don't get me wrong her, I do not think we should drill our children to fit into the "mold" but i do think learning how to live within a structure is essential.

Moreover, there are still laws that make curriculum mandatory... home-schooling is still available but the children have to be able to reach or exceed a certain level of skill and knowledge in different subjects. I really don't see a way to adopt the "unschooling" model of learning with those laws in place.

I would not consider this method as effective and appropriate. it simply does not resonate with our family goals and values.

Amie - posted on 05/25/2010

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LOL! I forgot to come back! It's been one of those days.

Anyway,

I'm sure unschooling could be affective for some children and parents IF the parents are actually teaching their children. There are some basic fundamentals that ALL children need. The first article I posted, his parents did an atrocious job of teaching him anything. He's actually arrogant enough to think he would get ANY job just by the interview. /:) I'd like to know what planet he's living on. If getting jobs was about being charismatic and BSing, I could have any job I wanted too. His parents dropped the ball. His big selling point that unschooling worked for him is that he's grown up just fine. He's not fine though and the people who think he is have a few screws loose IMO. You're not fine if you can't function in society. Chaos would ensue I'm sure if everyone was an unschooler and we all did what we wanted, when we wanted. Which is very much what the man in the article comes across as.

Now homeschooling integrated with unschooling to some degree I can agree with. The kids are still getting the basic education to be able to function in society but they are also fostering the areas they are most interested in.

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This particular model of home schooling is not one I would choose if I were to ever think of home schooling.

I know several parents who home school. Almost all of them have a set schedule and curriculum. Though because it is one on one and geared to the child the class portion and home work generally only take 2-3 hours to complete and the rest of the day is theirs.

Now the majority I know are also apart of a home school association that do group things like field trips, and sports etc to help with socialization, but I only know one who did the free form method, but her son was autistic and sometimes what they were supposed to do wasn't going to happen because of the kind of day he was having.

I believe that structure is good as long as it is balanced and flexible.

Home schooling can achieve that, it depends on the family's choices.

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I've heard of it and I think it's complete and utter CRAP! I haven't read any of the other responses so I hope I'm not offending anyone but I'm a firm believer in schedule and routine....I'm not a nazi about it but I believe ALL human being benefit from structure! It's not preparing them for the real world AT ALL and children raised in that environment will march to the beat of their own drum and think everyone else is strange!

Amie - posted on 05/24/2010

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OH god, that unschooling crap. I am sure in some cases it can work but I also am sure that those are rare cases.

http://womanuncensored.blogspot.com/2010...

That interview is disturbing.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lee-strana...

This one seems to be more of a success at the unschooling theory. While it's harder to gauge to the first, since it's the dad doing the interview and not his son, the dad does seem to have prepared his son well for his future.


I'll elaborate further in the morning. It's late and I need to get to bed.

Tanya - posted on 05/24/2010

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I saw it on the show radical parenting. Its called unschooling here is the wikipedia link about it.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unschooling

Unschooling refers to a range of educational philosophies and practices centered on allowing children to learn through their natural life experiences, including child directed play, game play, household responsibilities, work experience and social interaction, rather than through a more traditional school curriculum. Unschooling encourages exploration of activities led by the children themselves, facilitated by the adults. Unschooling differs from conventional schooling principally in the thesis that standard curricula and conventional grading methods, as well as other features of traditional schooling, are counterproductive to the goal of maximizing the education of each child.

Meghan - posted on 05/24/2010

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I think kids going to school is great....I don't really think all the schools and curriclum/teaching styles/amount of homework is all that great though. Basically school is a place for kids to go to learn ehtic, schedules, deadlines, communication and sociallizing, and listening to other adults.

I am not against home schooling but it probably wouldn't be the best for Joshua to have me teach him..poor kid wouldn't stand a chance when he got to college lol!

Jaime - posted on 05/24/2010

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I maintain that it's about balance. I don't agree that the school curriculum should be decided based on the most popular learning styles (those being visual and auditory) and I think that makes it difficult for some students to learn in the standardized environment that is offered by a classroom setting. I also don't think that free-wheeling education for young children is a good idea...I think trips to the zoo or farmers market are fantastic field-trip ideas....but not as an entire lesson plan for an entire unit of learning. Children need to learn to think critically, be creative where it counts and also listen to direction...that can't be achieved if there is absolutely no structure and it won't be achieved if there is too much structure. Balance...I say again...balance. LOL

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