how do all you mommy's out there feel about the H1N1 shot? I feel pretty lost about it.

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Tricia - posted on 10/16/2009

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My son had the swine flu. He was treated with Tamiflu and was completely fine. It was like he had a litle cold and that was it. I'd prefer to experience a little flu rather than put all those disgusting chemicals into my kids.

Jill - posted on 10/15/2009

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have 3 kids ... no plans for flu or swine flu shot... did get the pnemonia shot in Jan. because i get it 2x a yr... people have died from the flu for centuries... swine flu has also been around for a long time nothing new ... the media just makes you think it is new.... people also survive the flu... pray for protection form it ... God is in control

Elizabeth - posted on 10/13/2009

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From a doctor - How to Prevent Swine Flu
The only portals of entry are the nostrils and mouth/throat. In a global epidemic of this nature, it's almost impossible to avoid coming into contact with H1N1 in spite of all precautions. Contact with H1N1 is not so much of a problem as proliferation is.
While you are still healthy and not showing any symptoms of H1N1infection, in order to prevent proliferation, aggravation of symptoms and development of secondary infections, some very simple steps, not fully
highlighted in most official communications, can be practiced (instead of focusing on how to stock N95 or Tamiflu):1. Frequent hand-washing (well highlighted in all official communications).
2. "Hands-off-the-face" approach. Resist all temptations to touch any part of face (unless you want to eat, bathe or slap).3. *Gargle twice a day with warm salt water (use Listerine if you don't trust salt). *H1N1 takes 2-3 days after initial infection in the throat/ nasal cavity to proliferate and show characteristic symptoms. Simple gargling prevents proliferation. In a way, gargling with salt water has the same effect on a healthy individual that Tamiflu has on an infected one.Don't underestimate this simple, inexpensive and powerful preventative method.
4. Similar to 3 above, *clean your nostrils at least once every day with warm salt water. *Not everybody may be good at Jala Neti or Sutra Neti (very good Yoga asanas to clean nasal cavities), but *blowing the nose hard
once a day and swabbing both nostrils with cotton buds dipped in warm salt water is very effective in bringing down viral population.*5.. *Boost your natural immunity with foods that are rich in Vitamin C (Amla and other citrus fruits). *If you have to supplement with Vitamin C tablets, make sure that it also has Zinc to boost absorption.6. *Drink as much of warm liquids (tea, coffee, etc) as you can. *Drinking warm liquids has the same effect as gargling, but in the reverse direction.They wash off proliferating viruses from the throat into the stomach where they cannot survive, proliferate or do any harm.
I suggest you pass this on to your entire e-list. You never know who might pay attention to it - and STAY ALIVE because of it.

Elizabeth - posted on 10/13/2009

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I feel that it hasn't been tested enough to even be out there. Therefore, I would hate to say to take the risk. Either way you will take risk but to put a virus that hasn't been tested enough is not something I would do. But, this is something that each of us have to do our own research and decide on our own. My nephew is ill and not really sure if he actually has it. Doctors may assume/suggest that your child may have it. It's my understanding that a person is only tested if its critical, I guess meaning that one has to be very sick, enter into the hospital to be tested. The best practice of trying to prevent this illness, is to keep your hands clean at all time, swish with salt water and nasil cleanse. The Swine Flu is scaring to many of us. The word Swine is NEW, which makes this the scary part! It is still a Flu with a different word in front of it which is new! There are many people that get very ill with the other types of flu and actually die from them as well. We just don't hear about it. Usually, the people that have passed away in some cases are usually elderly, or with some kind of disease such as cancer which they are not able to fight it. Now, I am not saying you should Not go in to see the doctor especially if you or your love one is running a fever or suspect the swine flu. This Swine Flu should be taken serious as any other illness. If everyone uses a very simple hygiene in our everyday life this may prevent any kind of germs. If you have children that attend school, get them in a good habit of washing their hand often.We should all wash our hand when we get home from school, stores and work. Soap & water are in our homes and such an easy procedure to do! Also, we should cough or sneeze with our hands over our mouth, it our forearm that should be cough or sneezed on. We use our hand for everything! We shake hands, we hand paper to one another, kids share toys, grocery carts, escalators (ewh, did you see the program on whats on the rails? YUK!) These are my thoughts and should take into consideration. Have A Health Day!

Christine - posted on 10/13/2009

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It is hard being a Mommy and having to make these decisions for our children. It makes it even harder with the media, all the different points of views/opinions, and conflicting information out there. I personally will not vaccinate myself, or my son (18 months) for the seasonal or H1N1. He stays at home with my during the day, so I don't need to worry about daycare or school. Instead of vaccinating, we do our best to boost our immunity naturally. We choose to eat whole foods (fruits and veggies) and eliminate as many processed foods as possible. We juice, try to stay active, practice healthy habits in hand washing, hygiene and cleaning around the house. We do supplement with vitamin c, and astragulus, especially at the onset of a cold, or cold like symptoms or when someone close is sick. I am still breastfeeding, and will continue to do so during flu season to help add some extra protection for my son. It is a hard decision to make, I have attached a few links for you to check out. The FDA website has information on this vaccine, as well as, all the others, mercola is an interesting one to check out with lots of articles and information, and the mothering message board is a natural parenting community that has a whole section on vaccinations. I hope whatever you decide, you can find peace in your choice.





This is the link to the FDA website with the H1N1 info and package inserts: http://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccine...



Dr. Mercola: http://articles.mercola.com/sites/direct...



The Mothering Network: http://www.mothering.com/discussions/for...

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Quoting Alicia:

I am not getting the H1N1 shot only because there is alot of mercury in it and my cousin when he was little recieved a bad batch of regular shots and is now mentally retard and I dont want to risk that happening with me or my 2 year old daughter! I am making sure that we dont go anywhere that we dont have to and plenty of hand washing and staying away from people that are sick!


Alicia, the only H1N1 Vac. that contains mercury is the multi dose bottles and even at that it is 25 mcg/adult dose...the single dose as well as the mist that your 2 year old is old enough to have has NO MERCURY AT ALL.  Please check your facts before you add to the hysteria. 



 However it is your choice and it sounds as if you are willing to take steps necessary to keep this and other seasonal nasties at bay.  One other little thing that you can do is to begin a regimen of swabbing out the nose w/a mild warm salt water solution each day.  This helps to reduce the 'community' that is setting up house and waiting to get in.  All we can do is become more proactive at this point.



 

Leola - posted on 10/22/2009

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My son will not be getting the H1N1 vaccine. There's just not enough reputable information about it yet, and he stays home with me so I am not worried about him catching H1N1. If he does end up catching it, I feel better about having him receiving the antibiotics for it than the shot.

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I will not be getting the shot for my 2 and 4 year old. However I will be stocking up on fever reducers etc. as the news is saying the hospitals are turning away the children with symptoms! This will mean that we will be nursing our babies back to health ourselves. So my advise is, stock up. Also, NEVER NEVER give a child under 11 asprin like the idiots on the news, it makes their brain swell and causes damage/death!

Crystal - posted on 10/22/2009

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I don't know how you feel but I'm thinking about not getting it for my kids. the risks are too high!!!

Felisa - posted on 10/22/2009

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Quoting Jennifer:

OK well I have also heard that this h1n1 is no worse then the regular flu, just easier to catch...and the people they say died from it accually died from some other reason. and I heard just last night on the news an otopsy showed on someone showed that the h1n1 was not the cause of death. I think peopel are over reacting about this flu.If people would keep their sick kids home from school it wouldnt spread so easy. ( i've heard of alot still sending their kids to school) anyway, thats my thoughts



Our pediatrician confirmed this week that, though she is seeing many H1N1 cases, the symptoms ARE milder than the seasonal flu.  Our schools are requesting that the kids stay home.  If they bring a note from the doctor, when they return to school, stating the illness was "flu", the absence is considered a "special circumstance" and is not counted as a regular absence on the student's record.

Jennifer - posted on 10/22/2009

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OK well I have also heard that this h1n1 is no worse then the regular flu, just easier to catch...and the people they say died from it accually died from some other reason. and I heard just last night on the news an otopsy showed on someone showed that the h1n1 was not the cause of death. I think peopel are over reacting about this flu.If people would keep their sick kids home from school it wouldnt spread so easy. ( i've heard of alot still sending their kids to school) anyway, thats my thoughts

Jennifer - posted on 10/22/2009

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I've never had a shot in my life and have rarly been sick in my life. Neither of my kids have either and so far they seem way heathier then ones who have had all their shots. Just make sure to keep them clean and use the sanatizing wipes for grocery carts. most stores have them. make sure they are eating healthy so their bodys can fight it off.

Deneyce - posted on 10/20/2009

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My pediatrician recommended that I wait until late November to see what happens with the vaccine. However, last week my 6 mos old tested positive for H1N1 and her fever got all the way up to 104.7. I have two other children who tested negative, but they were also sick. That was the scariest week of my life not knowing what was going to happen and then hearing about all these children who died from it. My 6 mo old won't need the vaccine now, but I probably will get the other two vaccinated next month.

Vanessa - posted on 10/20/2009

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I got my own daddy to reshearch it for me. I know my husband and I have decided to not get it for our kids. My cousin has asthma like my son, he got the vaccine and ended up in the hospital for a week afterwards. You just need to read about it and make the choice yourself. No one can make it for you!

N - posted on 10/20/2009

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There's a reason drug companies are promoting this thing- they make MONEY! Notice how websites and tv are constantly pushing this thing! TV and websites get advertising from the drug companies, so they are forced to ram it down our throats. They are using scare tactics. How many deaths from the flu have happened out of the billion plus people in the US? And what did they forget to mention about those cases? I've been scared to death after I read Jenny Mc Carthy's book about her child with autism. My son developed autistic symptoms after doctors prescribed him allergy and GERD medicine at age 1. Im definitely not doing the flu vaccines.

Maggie - posted on 10/20/2009

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My newborn had RSV last year, and it was AWFUL! He was almost at pneumonia but he was a breastfed baby so he pulled through really well in the end. I'd say if you are a nursing mom, not to get the vaccine for the family but I would get the vaccine if you aren't nursing. Newborns don't have the immune system to fight off H1N1, they just don't. But if you are nursing you can give your baby some of your immunities to help fight it off. That's just my opinion. I hate the idea of vaccinations but you just can't risk a serious illness on a newborn baby.

Irene - posted on 10/20/2009

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I haven't decided yet if our family is going to get the vaccination yet. I'm 12 weeks pregnant and work in the healthcare field so I'm at double the risk of possibly getting the flu. But I live in Ontario and the government here is sending out mixed messages. Two healthcare groups, one in Vancouver and one here in Ontario are saying one thing and then another. So, my thoughts are up in the air at the moment. For one they don't even have a vaccination yet that they feel is safe enough for pregnant women here yet. So, I'm not going to take the risk...until they decide which one is the best shot to get. Plus, if you practice proper hand washing and precautions when dealing with the flu you should be fine.

Jennifer - posted on 10/20/2009

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I hear that Drs.say kids with underlying problems should have the shot,others can have the nose spray.

Brooke - posted on 10/20/2009

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I love my Doctor and complete trust him to keep my daughter safe and healthy. We follow his orders. He is the one that went to medical school. We also live in NYC, so we will all be getting the shots!



Shots are scary, but getting the diseases (that were almost extinct, but now since parents are choosing to skip them are on the rise) are much more scary!

Nicole - posted on 10/19/2009

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I am not opposed to vaccines in general and I believe that the reason we dont have those life threatening illnesses so commonly now is because of the vaccines...but I have to draw the line somewhere, and the flu shot is it.. it would be the same if we came out with a "Cold Vaccine" honestly... your body gets stronger if given the chance and you dont have any underlying issues.. my son is nearly five years old (Oct 28th) and every year since he was born, he has had the flu shot and Gotten the flu and made him very sick.. this year, I think I will pass on ANY Flu shots and see how he does.. who knows... all I know is that once I started passing on antibiotics for my infections, I stopped getting sick as much...Go Figure... maybe Nature does know what its doing... daily vitamin, Hydration, and Baths every day... the way it should be. just my opinion.

Candice - posted on 10/19/2009

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I just got my kids flu and swine flu shot today..I was unsure also but I am hearing more and more people getting it and dying, I'm not willing to take that chance either so I would rather do my best to protect them from it.

Kristen - posted on 10/19/2009

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i have done alot of research on the matter an from what i learned our children are safer with the shot than without it. so when it becomes avaliable im going to get it for mine.now its up to you what you so but i recomend it

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not happening in my house! CNN had a disease control expert on a while back and he said he wouldn't give it to his children, and I've read that the people who came up with it wont even give it to their children. That's enough convincing for me!

Jodi - posted on 10/19/2009

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i'm not really sure either. its scary cause everyone was so sure about phen-phen and look at what it did to people..and now there's reactions to the H1N1 and kids are dieing, even though its "rare", so i don't think I really want mine getting it

Pamela - posted on 10/19/2009

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I am not getting the H1N1 shot for myself or for my children. I have spoken to both my doc and their doc. Both agree that it has not been tested enough for them to safely give it. My childrens doc said she refuses to give out that shot.I just don't feel safe giving it to them or myself.Both docs said that the regular flu shot is good enough.

Norita - posted on 10/19/2009

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My family is not getting the vaccine and im pregnant! Alot of the people that have died of the H1N1 had other health issues other than just the H1N1 flu! Im sorry but I think people are making this a bigger deal then what it really is thousands of people die a yr of the regular flu its just not as advertised like the H1N1 is being! As long as you eat healthy and are taking vitamins then you dont need the vaccine! Your body is equiped to fight of infections as long as you take care of yourself! JUSt my opinion sorry!

Gina - posted on 10/19/2009

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this is just me and my family BUT I won't be having any of my kids get any shots of any kind, they don't even get their "immunizations"... some may say I'm a bad mother but thats ok because it is my right... basically you have to ask yourself if you want to risk your childs health with the shots that they give or maybe risk their health naturally... ever since we stopped having the kids immunized they have been so much healthier because of not getting the shots... you jsut have to get the advice of someone that you can absoultely trust beyond a doubt, otherwise what is out there is nothing but the governments version......JMO

Melissa - posted on 10/19/2009

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My children's doctor is NOT recommending it because it hasn't been tested enough. The doctor said that the swine flu is not as big a deal as everyone is making it out to be. She said most kids recover in 3-4 days. I know the same is true for adults. My mom who is a RN works on the neurology floor at one of our local hospitals. She spoke to a very intelligent neurologist and she said NOT to take it. It has been mass produced and not tested enough. The neurologist also feels that there will an increase in neurological problems from this shot. Scary! I know that my mom had the shot for swine flu back in 1976 and was paralyzed for 3 months. She was told never to get the shot again. I do realized that it was a long time ago and medicine has improved, but still something to think about. Talk with your doctor and see how they feel, especially if you have medical problems.

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At this point I am still deciding what to do. We will most likely get the shot. BUT, we aren't going to be the first in line to get them.

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At this point I am still deciding what to do. We will most likely get the shot. BUT, we aren't going to be the first in line to get them.

Tracy - posted on 10/18/2009

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As a mom in the St. Louis, MO area which is where they developed the vaccine I know that this particular university is very thorough about testing their vaccines. I will tell you I am usually against flu shots because my children rarely get sick so don't want to take the chance of making them sick. But in this case I am considering it because I have a diabetic daughter and we have a confirmed case in our very small school district. They say that diabetics have a weak immunity system. What is funny she almost never gets sick even when her brother and sister do.

Keri - posted on 10/18/2009

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I am a mother of 2 , and I intend to get them the h1n1 shot. The H1N1 vaccine is almost exactly the same as the seasonal flu shot. The only major difference is the actual virus. One contains dead flu virus, the other dead h1n1. Now, some people have very good natural defenses that filter out viruses and never get sick unless they have the shot, because it bypasses their defenses and goes straight into their system. My father in law is one of these, but neither of my children have shown signs of it.

"Thousands of people die from flu every year anyway" isn't an excuse for me. Most of the people that die from flu could have prevented it by having the cheap flu shot. I've seen nothing to make me second guess that getting my own children the h1n1 vaccine is the right thing to do.



and to Irma Martinez.. They believe that the cause of autism from shots its from Mercury, which is no longer involved in most vaccinations. It is not an ingredient in the h1n1 vaccine.

Adrienne - posted on 10/18/2009

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I have heard alot of bad things about the h1n1 vaccine and to tell you the truth i have no plans on getting it nor do i have any plans on my children getting it...i think the big reason everone is making such a big deal out of the h1n1 flu is because ppl have died from it...but open your eyes ppl...it has been around before and it is the same thing as the regular seasonal flu. you can get phneumonia from regular flu too and the only reason that the h1n1 flu is more aggresive is because it preys on ppl who already have health problems and small children who might not be at thier healthiest stages. i think as long as you keep a good eating habit and you take your vitamins and practice safe hand washing and sterilization then you more than likely will be safe from it...it only kills the ppl who don't do anything about it when they start to feel sick...so if you go to the doctor at the first signs of the flu then it can be treated. so why take the risks involved with the vaccine when you can do something to prevent getting it in the first place. (the risks are higher then with any other vaccine out there) the ppl who created the vaccine won't even take it!!! what does that tell you!?

Jessica - posted on 10/18/2009

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Quoting beth:

im really confused about the shot i was told that they used that shot back in the 70s and alot of people had issues with it like not walking. Its like no doctor out here can give us parents a good yes or no answer to is the shot safe. But then you hear about the storys of kids dieing from it i have a 3 yr old and a1yr old i just want a straight answer you know.


yes it is the very same shot they are promoting now and if you google it you will see that even today people are having side effects such as death,heart attacks, paralysis etc.

Jessica - posted on 10/18/2009

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I have had swine flu and it wasnt that bad. TBH i would rather have swine flu i am asthmatic too and i am told eveyr year to get flu shots but refuse. the swine flu vaccination has been linked to 4000 heart attacks within 24 hours of having the shot in the US and these werent all adults...some were children... if that figure doesnt make you want to question the use of the vaccine i dont know what will. Another reason i wont be getting my children vaccinated, my child with a low immune system also has an egg allergy and guess what is in flu shots lol.

Lindsey - posted on 10/18/2009

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I dont want to get my child the shot but I will do myself. I know that I have got sick from the flu shot many of times and i dont want to do that to her. I want her natural antiboties to fight it before I inject them into her. But washing our hands and not coming into contact with others that are sick and limiting her places that she goes to seems to help!

Crystal - posted on 10/18/2009

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I've never had a flu shot in my life. Now that I'm pregnant, my doctor is telling me that X number of pregnant women have died where their only risk factor was the pregnancy, etc. So, I'm a little freaked out. I've never had the flu very bad... so normally I'd just dismiss this as doctor instigated paranoia and assume that I won't get it.

On the other hand, I'll feel really stupid if this is the one year that I actually get the flu... so, my husband and I haven't decided what we're doing yet. Has anyone actually gotten the flu from the vaccine? That's my other concern... it's supposed to be safe, but what if I get the flu FROM the vaccine???

Beth - posted on 10/18/2009

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im really confused about the shot i was told that they used that shot back in the 70s and alot of people had issues with it like not walking. Its like no doctor out here can give us parents a good yes or no answer to is the shot safe. But then you hear about the storys of kids dieing from it i have a 3 yr old and a1yr old i just want a straight answer you know.

Sarah - posted on 10/18/2009

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all I know is that my children and I are not getting the vacine yet. I think this all came out to qulicky with not enough time or research. i dont want my kids to be the guinea pig in this experiment. Maybe later!

Julie - posted on 10/18/2009

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My son's school is offering the vaccine and sent home information about the vaccination. My first reaction was that I'm not going to have him vaccinated--the vaccine hasn't been tested long enough to determine if there could be any long term side effects. So I visited the CDC website. And it pretty much confirmed my first thought. The wording about the vaccine did not reassure me! Phrases like 'should' 'don't expect' 'may'--this tells me they are not sure about the vaccine at all. And what made it worse was there is a disclaimer on the sight that states if there are serious adverse effects from the vaccine you do not have the right to sue, however, there has been a fund set up to help those who 'may' experience problems!!! Seems to me like the government is looking for guinea pigs to test the vaccination, so I'm not comfortable vaccinating my child at this point in time.

Lisa - posted on 10/18/2009

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my daughter is 15 weeks preg and i am afraid of her geeting that shot because we had a nurse tell us that there was a guy that got that shot and a couple of days he died so i aint sure about her getting that shot but i dont want her getting sick nether so we dont know what to do .....did you get it yet????????

Kim - posted on 10/18/2009

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I'm glad I'm not alone in feeling very conflicted over the H1N1 vaccine! However, it's just a flu vaccine, which are altered somewhat every year to deal with the "most popular" influenza strains - so I don't see why this one is any different. AND when looking at the statistics from the CDC - not the local media - the numbers are astounding and frightening. 11 children died this week alone from H1N1. My children have not had the regular seasonal flu shot yet, but are getting it soon. My youngest, 18 months, can't get it b/c of his egg allergy - which is also very scary, since he too has 2 older, school age siblings, which have had several cases of seasonal and H1N1 flu in their schools. I feel like we are practically bathing in hand sanitizer!! My advice for everyone, check out the official reports from the CDC and don't listen to anyone else, then make an informed decision. Good luck to everyone this flu season!

Melissa - posted on 10/17/2009

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I agree with most of the moms on here. I was unsure as well. Not sure how much truth there is to this or not, but President Obama's children are not receiving the vaccine. I'll admit say I am not a supporter of Obama but it definitely says something when the President of the United States of AMERICA is not having his children vaccinated. Does he know something we don't??? I am really wondering to what extent we should trust our government. For the people by the people...right? WRONG!

Heather - posted on 10/17/2009

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I have 5 children ages 6,4,2,1 and 2 months old. So of course we are worried about H1N1, BUT I don't want to get the vaccination until we know the side affects, I don't want my child or myself to be a guinea pig until I know exactly what could come along with this shot. So for now we wash hands religiously and have taught our children to cough into the arm. Lysol toys and all surfaces on a regular basis. Our family Dr. suggested to keep children away from stores such as Wal Mart, and to also try to keep plenty of food and necessities on hand so you don't have to frequently visit the stores. And he also said that if you do need to get your shopping done it's best to go when it's not a busy time of the day ( I go at 6am). Good luck!

Heather - posted on 10/17/2009

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I have 5 children ages 6,4,2,1 and 2 months old. So of course we are worried about H1N1, BUT I don't want to get the vaccination until we know the side affects, I don't want my child or myself to be a guinea pig until I know exactly what could come along with this shot. So for now we wash hands religiously and have taught our children to cough into the arm. Lysol toys and all surfaces on a regular basis. Our family Dr. suggested to keep children away from stores such as Wal Mart, and to also try to keep plenty of food and necessities on hand so you don't have to frequently visit the stores. And he also said that if you do need to get your shopping done it's best to go when it's not a busy time of the day ( I go at 6am). Good luck!

Melinda - posted on 10/17/2009

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I am 21 weeks pregnant with twins and will be getting the shot my doctor got hers and told me that there have been 5 maternal deaths there I am not going to risk mine and my childrens lives its going around here and I trust my doctor, there are risks to getting it but i would rather take my chances with the shot then catch it(I have a knack for catching whatever is going around) and lose my life or my 2 boys

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Well I first found out about H1N1 this past summer when my son who was working at a Cam up in GA ( it was on the news and every day for a week) was exposed due to campers the camp wet quarantine and he went on tamiflu and I really was frightened but he learned all about the spread of it and how to deal with it since the CDC came out to the camp and showed them how to treat the camp. He came home at end of sumer healthy and explained a great deal of how it is spread and what to do. Basically keep things cleaned off with lysol wash your hands a lot , change your sheets and towels frequently every 3 or 4 days and not to use hand sanitizer only in emergency it strips all the good germs too. So I am not going to get my son or daughter shots I am not comfortable with the protocol o it and their have been deaths with the shot being given as well. So that is what I know I hope it helps.

Donna - posted on 10/17/2009

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When I 1st heard about it- scarey; now- I dont even think of it- its hard to even find- so just spray lysol & wash hands- I sure hope thats enuf

Ashley - posted on 10/17/2009

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I asked my daughters pediatric surgeon and he said to get whatever is out there I really trust his opinion!

Jennifer - posted on 10/17/2009

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I have a friend who just got over H1N1. He and his whole family (including his 5 year old daughter) had it. After having the H1N1 flu he said that he still would not get the vaccine. He said that it's the same as the regular flu and to treat it as such.



My family and I will not be getting the vaccine.

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