My three year old son won't ever sleep go to sleep early!!

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Jodi - posted on 05/04/2013

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"It does not sound like Jodi has ever dealt with something like this."

Um, I absolutely have dealt with this, and a strict routine, in particular removing naps, strict wake up times and strict bed times was how I managed it. AND I was a single mother at the time. But thanks for totally disregarding that anything I had to say was of any value. Rude and condescending, much?

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Jodi - posted on 05/05/2013

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Paula, given I had nothing in the OP to go by, I was actually trying to sound out what was happening. I had different things that worked with all my kids, and I didn't see the point in listing them all for the OP until I had an idea on what she was dealing with. I don't think I was the one making assumptions about anyone.

Paula - posted on 05/04/2013

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Also we had to remove naps or he would never take them to try and get him to go to bed at night so I completely understand a portion of your side as well Jodi! If he did not want to take naps he did not take them we got tired of fighting with him on nap time anyway, so we would keep him busy until bedtime and this is still in affect today. Now that he is 7 their are rare occasions that he will take a nap after school, especially if he is super tired or he is not feeling well.

Cristina - posted on 05/04/2013

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LOL ! OMG ! Thought I was the only mom dealing with this kind of situation (lol ) other kids love to sleep but my son hates it ! Nothing like momma ! I love sleep he is like his dad !! my husband gets three hours of sleep and he is good , ready to take on the day . LOL

Paula - posted on 05/04/2013

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Exactly Ms. Mesa! When my son or I would literally have to keep fussing with him to go to bed or I would ask him thinking that he would say yes. He would say NO I AM NOT SLEEPY pretty much any time I thought about trying to put him down for a nap and so on, even when at night trying to go to sleep he was always putting up a fight laying their singing the alphabet and playing and so on, but thank God he is past that stage now, he actually will tell me now that he wants to go to bed or just when it is bed time he willing goes to his room lays down and within about 20 minutes is asleep and I always check on him to make sure. So when I meant he would fight sleep I meant that he would literally fuss and argue with me or in your case like mine sing the alphabet or try to drown me out with a song because he did not want to listen. LOL

Paula - posted on 05/04/2013

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Sorry for you feeling that way Jodi, did not mean to offend and thanks for sharing your background of what you went through because when I was reading and trying to offer at advice you were not putting up what you dealt with personally so it was a bit confusing very short responses have a blessed day! Assume what you want, no harm was intended Be Blessed and I mean that! You are quite alright!

Cristina - posted on 05/04/2013

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And Paula you are very right once he starts school and gets older I'm pretty sure he will be more tired and want to sleep . He never wants to lol I hear other children tell there mom they are tired , that has beber came out of My Sons mouth lol its like he doesn't want to miss out on anything

Paula - posted on 05/04/2013

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Ms. Mesa, I use to have to fight with my son to go to sleep and sometimes sleep in the room with him all while I was pregnant with my daughter. They are exactly 16 months apart they look so much alike but yet they act the exact opposite of eachother. When my son started walking at about 9 and half months, I would wake up many mornings to clanging pots and slamming cabinets he was always into something and so full of energy and talk about the cell phone and computers and games he has never had a hard time understanding and working technological stuff even before he started reading he could figure out things real quick. They are too good for themselves. Little genius's, my dad said children that are intuitive and into stuff are born genius's. Just wait until he gets into school my son is 7 and is on the A & B honor roll in 1st grade and has been that way since he started kindergarten, they are a mess. Even when he was in Pre-K the teachers told me he had very good fine motor skills and knew most of his alphabet and so on.

Cristina - posted on 05/04/2013

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Aww thank you Paula !!! Yes my son is extremely active and extremely smart !! He is reading already and does things on a computer that adults don't do !LOL it just takes a lot for him to be tired ! he helps me do laundry and doesn't let me lift anything cause I'm pregnant lol love him to pieces he's such a great child

Paula - posted on 05/04/2013

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Christina Mesa sounds like you have a strong willed and determined child, my son was exactly like this, and when I would get him into a routine a family event in our lives changed I either started a new job or went to school in which I returned late ours about 10-11pm at night many nights and yes dad did not make them go to bed because he would have to use our only car to come get me with the kids anyway. I completely understand, the older he gets this will soon die down and when he starts going to school this will soon die down. As soon as my son started pre- mainly kindergarten he got easily tired when he got home sometimes taking naps as soon as he got home. I soon had to stop that because he would go to bed late or did not want to go to sleep at night. It does not sound like Jodi has ever dealt with something like this. I have one overly active child and the other a girl who is the exact opposite she can take naps and still go to back to bed at a reasonable hour with no problem. You definitely need people that have been through what you are dealing with. From reading all these posts your child is very active mentally, physically, and it takes a lot for him to wind down that in relation to a strong willed and determined child. It as you know is going to take some patience but hold on keep doing what works for you things over time and with his age will definitely start to calm down. My cousin who is a teacher and has two boys of his own had to comfort me in this sense as well. Have a great day and I would love to share some tips and ideas with you too if that would help.

Jodi - posted on 05/04/2013

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Yeah, sometimes starting at the other end of the day (morning) can work. The trick will be getting him out of bed early and keeping him awake all day without him getting cranky!! It will probably take some time, but try to keep it a regular wake up time, and you may find the nights just adjust themselves.

Cristina - posted on 05/04/2013

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Thanks I will try again , he just needs to get into routine again , he just feel asleep now hallelujah lol most likely he will be up early tomorrow and I can start the routine again , I've tried every night tonight it worked :)

Jodi - posted on 05/04/2013

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Ok, well the first thing you need to do is wake him at the same time each morning. If he is sleeping until late, then of course he isn't tired at night. So start waking him at a regular time each morning and see if that makes a difference.

Cristina - posted on 05/04/2013

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He used to sleep fine at 2 years old .. he had got a pattern down , but I started going to school at night to get my Esthetician license and didn't come home til 10:30 ,so he always waited out for me . His grandma couldn't get him to sleep most of the time.... So he would sleep at 11 when I would come home I put him straight to bed . I finished school in Nov. he hasn't been the same since...ever since then I put him in bed at 9:00 and he drinks his milk .. he will sit look around , gets up and looks out the window saying its not night time because he sees the light from the streets lol he is too much to handle and every night it's a different story... in the dark he can stay up for about two hours without budging ...some nights til 12am but he will sleep all night til 11am the next morning

Jodi - posted on 05/04/2013

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So this is a recent thing then?

Can I just clarify that you are putting him to bed, and he is staying there, not acting up or anything, wide awake until what time at night? What time are you putting him to bed?

Cristina - posted on 05/04/2013

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Since he found out he is going to be a big brother he is acting up , he might be jelous of the new arrival I try everyday to give him all the attention I can but I'm in so much pain lately with this sciatica pain that I can't walk without having a pain like a knife stabbing my lower back and hips ... I'm due next month ...

Cristina - posted on 05/04/2013

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I do have a bedtime routine every night , I limit him on the tv in our living room And we do not have a tv in his room ... night showers don't get him tired I even use the lavender calm baby body wash nothing works .. I turn off all lights and sing him two songs and that's it. He doesn't get out of bed but he will sit down talk to himself does whatever to not fall asleep , when he was a baby he used to slap himself to wake up !!!

Jodi - posted on 05/04/2013

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Sounds like time to implement absolute bedtime. He shouldn't be having TV near bedtime (it stimulates the brain), and if he has a TV in his room, time to remove it. You need to set up a firm bedtime routing. In our house, this has always consisted of a bath, pyjamas, a snuggle and a book, then tuck up in bed. No more getting out of bed. If they get out of bed, straight back to bed, and just remain persistent. They eventually get the message.

If you already have a bedtime routine, what are you doing, and how are you reinforcing it? Chances are he is only staying awake because you keep reinforcing it (i.e. "mummy, I still can't sleep", so you sing to him, let him stay up and watch tv, etc, etc.)

Cristina - posted on 05/03/2013

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He hasn't napped during day since he turned one !!! No matter how early I try to have him in bed he just won't fall asleep fast , I sing to him let him watch some tv he has physical activities everyday but he is NEVER tired ... Not even when me and my husband took him to Disney did he go to sleep early , up at 8am didn't sleep til 1 am

Jodi - posted on 05/03/2013

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Is he having naps in the daytime? This can make a difference. Around this age many kids are ready to give up their regular daytime naps, or they at least NEED to give up their regular daytime naps in order to sleep well at night. My son was one of these kids - if he had his daytime nap I just couldn't get him to bed at night, so I had to go through the pain of cutting his nap. It worked. Before cutting his nap, I couldn't get him to bed and sleep before 10pm. After we cut his naps, he would be falling asleep by 7pm and sleeping all night.

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