My newborn binge eats please help

Tobiah - posted on 03/10/2012 ( 26 moms have responded )

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Please help... I feed my newborn 4oz every night at 3 am ... I put him down to sleep he cries and cries... So we give him 2 more oz and he usually throws it up but won't be content until we give him that...should I give him the extra 2oz or let him cry it out? He's 3weeks old and I don't know when he's just being fussy or legitimately still hungry... Please help:(

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Giving water and not picking him up is the exact opposite of advice that someone w/ a 3 week old baby should listen to... That's just scary.

Terra - posted on 03/10/2012

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Babies need to suck. It's a biological soothing response that is wired into their brain. He probably is happy with the 4oz but needs to suck to comfort himself. He is NOT dilly dallying at the breast he is soothing himself the way nature intended. Remember that at 3 weeks old everything he is doing is an instinct. Also, breast milk is digested MUCH faster then formula so please ignore the comments on schedule feeding. A tiny baby needs to be nursed on demand. Your breasts produce the most milk at night. As a nursing mom I would highly suggest trusting your baby and your body and ditch those night time bottles. They are causing you and your little boy unnecessary stress.

Heather - posted on 03/12/2012

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He should be eating 2 to 4 oz. every two to three hours. You NEVER ever let a newborn cry it out. Oh my God!!! Seriously!



Try finding a low flow nipple, sounds like that's your issue. He is getting the formula way to fast. Are you buying bottles and nipples for newborns?



If he throws up the 2 oz. you give him, then yes, give him 2 more oz. or how ever much he will drink. If he is only waking up once in the middle of the night, you are SO lucky. You never let a newborn baby cry it out. EVER! I don't care what anyone else says, it's not safe.



You aren't supposed to let a baby cry it out till they are at least 7 months old or older.



He is still hungry. Please feed your baby every 2 to 3 hours when he is hungry. He should be taking 2 to 4 oz. at a time. Always make 4 oz. at a time, then keep a log for a few days as to how much he is taking in at what time, or if it varies. Then you will know when you can make him only 2oz.



A few other things that you will hear from some other young moms, don't put cereal in his formula, it will not make him fuller, longer. It will also not make him sleep longer. It might for a day or three, but it's not a smart idea, as he could choke on the cereal in the bottle.



Don't put infant Vicks on his feet, it does nothing.



Don't put crib bumpers in his crib. Don't put pillow around or near him, or comforters, ever. He could suffocate.



Please don't try to feed him infant cereal or baby food till he is 5 to 6 months old.



Hold your baby when he wants to be held. You can't spoil him, only soothe him and keep him happy. Make him feel safe by always being there for him. You won't spoil him, you will just make him feel loved, safe, and cared for.



Never leave him in a wet or poopy diaper, this won't teach him anything, ever.



He could have acid reflux or just need to be burped after 1 or 2oz., so burp him, he probably will spit up, and then give him some more formula.



Never water down formula, that's not healthy for him, or good for him.



If he keeps throwing up his formula, try buying a different type or brand. Maybe something that says Gentle on it.



I am prego with baby #3, and I have been taking care of babies and children since I was 12, I am now 37. I don't know everything, but I know a lot about babies.



If you need a friend, I am not here to judge, just to help, you are welcome to email me. mysticbutterfly37 at yahoo.com



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Karie - posted on 03/24/2012

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Your baby is only 3 weeks old, I'm with the majority here....please don't let him cry it out. He has lots of time to learn how to self-soothe. Right now, you two are still getting to know each other, and it's going to take a little time.



I have four kids, all four of my kids feeding habits were different. I fed on demand, as recommended by my doctor. As stated by several others, newborns operate on instinct. They KNOW when they are hungry. It is a recommendation that babies eat ABOUT every 3-4 hours. That's an average, not an exact science. Some babies will go longer than that, some may want to eat after an hour and a half. My oldest went an average of 5 hours between feedings, my third would go 2 hours if I was lucky. My last one was the only one I HAD to feed at least every 3 hours, as he was born with low blood sugar and we had to make sure to keep it regulated. After the first month, his sugars stabilized and he's been fine ever since. I was able to go to feeding on demand as with my first 3.



It just breaks my heart when I see an infant crying because they are hungry and the mom says, well he just ate two hours ago so he doesn't need to eat for another two hours. You eat when you are hungry, and to ignore that in an infant because it doesn't fit into the schedule you have determined is just wrong.



If the vomiting continues with most of his feedings, you may want to discuss it with your doctor. My third had reflux, like several others have commented. If that is the problem, it is usually a pretty easy fix. My son took zantac until he was four and slept with his head slightly elevated. Then he eventually grew out of it.



The main thing you need to learn is to trust your instincts. If you think there is something wrong, don't be afraid to ask your doctor. That's what he/she is there for. They understand you're a new mom and they expect you to have a lot of questions and concerns. I figured out very quickly that I would rather take my child in to be seen and have it turn out to be nothing, then to wait and have it turn out to be serious.

Loretta - posted on 03/19/2012

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I picked my children up every time they cried and they all became very, very independent and secure people. They did not get spoiled and they did not have to be "broken" of the habit. I get very frustrated when people are told this about their babies and out of fear choose not to respond to their babies' need for them when they are young. Have you tried keeping your infant close to you after nursing to see if it is just a need for you he is expressing? If he knows nursing is the only time he can cuddle with you, he will take that over nothing even if he is full.

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Clear - posted on 11/08/2015

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Dealing with newborns is a hard mummy's job, especially when it's your first time. Not to worry about! Just give your baby babies magic tea and he'll be no more a fussy baby.

Sharon - posted on 04/18/2012

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I'm afraid Brest feeding is in demand. He may be getting confused between bottle and Brest its hard when you are starting off and everything is new. Boys are much hungrier than girls but with Brest feeding you can feel as if they never stop feeding. Stick with Brest only for a while. He is only 3 weeks you both need to settle a bit first. Enjoy these early days they go by so quickly.

Janice - posted on 04/16/2012

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Tobiah, I see this was from last month. I hope all is well with your baby now. They grow so fast, dont they? :)

Janice - posted on 04/16/2012

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Well if breastfeeding is so terrible Cantaremos then the human race would have never survived!!!! Formula is a wonderful invention and I agree that its needed by some. However, most of your info is flat out wrong!



Breastfeeding does not guarantee health, it just increases the likelyhood of health.



Majority of breastfeeding problem are for a very short time. Most breastfeeding moms are not depressed, bored, socially repressed or in pain.



Reflux is not in any way related to reflux or colic. It occurs in baby who eat formula too.



You are right breast milk is just milk. Milk that is specifically designed for human babies. Formula is cow's milk that we have figured out how to make it more like breast milk.



I'm not sure why you are so angry but please don't post any more false info.



The World Health Organization was not created by Catholics!

Tina - posted on 03/24/2012

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A baby learns how to soothe from from. My 19 month old son comforts himself using methods I used from when he was a baby. He'd have a feed, change, cuddle. I did use a pacifier. I'd lay him down, rug him up and gently rub him on the forehead and down his nose it would relax him and he'd go to sleep to this day when he is tired he wrap himself up in his blanket and rub his own forehead and go to sleep. You also get to know your baby. It takes time but you learn when they're tired, bored or just want a cuddle. Trust you instincts and just be patient with your baby I know it's hard when you're sleep deprived and more than likely recovering from the birth. Just remember the time goes so quickly he wont be a baby forever enjoy it a much as you can.



Also people need to remember when someone asks for advice by all means give them advice but don't be rude. You have to remember a new mum isn't going to automatically know what to expect don't treat them like they are stupid and don't make sarcastic comments.

User - posted on 03/23/2012

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Newborns do not binge eat. I think this time during the night is a time your little one wants to be awake, was he active at this time before you had him? He needs comfort and some time to be awake, play with him. The puking is being overfull. Schedules do not work on newborns.

Also no water, it can cause problems on little ones becoming over saturated with water, they DO NOT need it. They get enough in breast milk or formula.

Also don't forget to burp him, some babies need to burp more than once.

Amanda - posted on 03/22/2012

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Tobiah - definitly take the advice from most of the other parents. Your baby cries when he needs you (or needs something).



Ellen's advice is very out-of-date. That was the advice 20+ years ago when her child was an infant. I looked at her bio and her son is 17+. It was also acceptable to beat your children with sticks and rulers back then too. There have been BIG strides in child rearing and medicine since then.

Jennifer - posted on 03/20/2012

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NEVER let a newborn cry it out! They need something so give it. I am on baby 3 and I can tell you I still cuddle all my children. My youngest is three months old and oldest is7. Feed, burp, change then cuddle. If they are still upset go back thru the list. Two of my babies had colic and they just wanted to bounce and be patted. Some burp sessions will take 10-15 min and others are immediate. All my children are independent and smart children who also know that mom and dad are a safe and comfortable zone. Everyday is not going to be a dream but every week you can look back on a job well done. Happy and content adults is what we are shooting for. My latest one is a binky baby, she takes it as soon as she is done burping and spits it out when she doesn't want it anymore.

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I would try the bink, dummy, pacifer or whatever you call it. My youngest (#3) never took a bink and the only way he would sleep is if he could find my pinky in the middle of the night so most nights I slept with my hand on his belly so as soon as he fussed I could move my hand up and offer him my pinky. His bed was right beside mine and made it easy to reach him. Each baby is different and sometimes (ok everytime when its baby #1) its hard to figure out their clues. You will get it. Trust your Mommy gut.

Jessica - posted on 03/18/2012

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How can any parent not want to cuddle or comfort a newborn baby. you've carried him for 9 months and hes been very comfortable and eaten whenever he wanted inside you. At 3 weeks old he is still getting used to a routine. Breaks my heart to hear that mums let such little ones cry it out. yes you'll miss out on a bit of sleep at first but he'll soon get into a routine...and 1 night time feed is doing great. Have u tried a dummy or help him find his thumb. Yes burping after feeding is very important and every baby if different . Our first burped as soon as he was lifted where my daughter could take up to 10/15 minutes. Good luck and most of all enjoy these early little days.

Allison - posted on 03/13/2012

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try a pacifier....because it is obvious that his stomach cannot take any more..or maybe u should try less tea and more soothing remedies....example ...singing, rocking and maybe some music for babies...there is something that is amiss and u need to pinpoint it....give it time, but most important, don't lose patience......

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Yeah.... let's not teach our newborns that Mommy will fulfill their needs (newborns don't have wants... their wants ARE their needs).... That's definitely not good.

Ellen - posted on 03/12/2012

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Use should not pick up ur baby all the time at night. That is what my babys dr. told me an my kid grew up fine water is fine. Also babys learn right away everytime u pick him or her up that they will get fed thats not good.

Elizabeth - posted on 03/12/2012

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He's probably not "binge" eating. A lot of new baby's cluster feed which means they eat, and then few minutes later feel the need to eat again. It's a comfort thing. You could try a pacifier instead of nursing again. Also if he is throwing up his milk, he might have a stomach issue that may need looked into.

Ellen - posted on 03/11/2012

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Hes a new born u have to ride it out, try some water, or 1oz its not helping him dont over feed. He just wants u and yes let him ride it out dont pick him up rub his tummy.try not to pick him up so much.

Laura - posted on 03/11/2012

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It sounds to me like you should ask your pediatrician what they think. Does your baby have hiccups often or make a gulping sound when not eating? Both of my kids were the exact same way and it turned out that they had GERD (acid reflux). I was making the same mistake of feeding them extra because they were acting hungry (hands in mouth etc) The doctor explained to me that a baby will "act" hungry when their tummy hurts them, be it gas or some other tummy trouble like reflux. Don't be afraid to call your doctor often! That's why they went to med school ;) My kids had to have a test done where they drink a bottle of some mixture (i can't think of the name right now) but anyway they drank the bottle and then they would take an x-ray of the baby and you could see the fluid rushing back up their throat. After the diagnosis, the doctor prescribed Xantac liquid 2x per day and a formula change and also gave us some tips like not to lay the baby down until about 15 minutes after they finish the bottle to help gravity keep the food down and having them sleep sitting upright like in their carseat or a bouncer seat. I hope this helps!

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My son would nurse up to every 45 minutes as he had reflux and nursing was his comfort. He also had to sleep upright on his belly on me while I was propped upright in my bed until he was 5 months old... otherwise neither of us slept.



Whether he's being fussy or is hungry shouldn't make a difference right now as he's only 3 weeks old... Please don't leave him to just cry. Personally, I'd just be nursing him since that's what you do during the day and maybe try holding him upright for a bit after he eats and see if that helps to settle him.

Tobiah - posted on 03/10/2012

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I Breast feed and pump.. But I find the bottle easier at night and earlier in the morning so I know that's he's getting everything he needs.. Otherwise he likes to dilly dally on the boob.. Lol... Thank you for those tips I will try them! I usually just put him down after burping and expect him just to go to bed...My friends son is almost six months and eating less than my three week is and that's why it posed as concern to me ... Maybe my boy just has a heartier appetite.. Thanks a lot!!!

Louise - posted on 03/10/2012

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You have to set out his feeding pattern not the other way around. A new born needs to eat if bottle fed every 3-4 hours. If he is finishing the bottle then make it a 5 oz bottle and feed him until he is content. Then make sure he is well burped as this is the main reason for babies crying after food and let him sit up for 10 minutes before putting him down flat. This will help with the wind and make sure the food is going to stay down.



Do not feed him again for at least 3 hours as all you are doing is giving him more wind to try and surpress. Have your tried a dummy as he may just want the comfort he gets from suckling?



Having a good orgainised routine will help him and you settle a lot quicker.

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