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User - posted on 02/05/2009 ( 19 moms have responded )

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my baby is 11 weeks old and formula fed. monday night i switched from infamil gentlease to soy. since then he has been more fussy and has spit up 3 or 4 times. my biggest concern is his stool is firm and he cried when he was having a bowel movement today. i am waiting for the dr. office to call back. should i switch back to gentlease? do i have to transition slowly? p.s. he did get vaccinations monday but he does not have a fever. thank you, kari

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Quoting Jenny:



Soy formula is not recommended, especially for boys because of the high estrogen content.  I know Similac has several varieties for lactose intolerance or gas.  We switched to Nutramigen due to colicy symptoms, but is very expensive.  Watch the vaccines too, maybe spread them out more because of the autism risk - again more prevalent in boys.






I agree completely.  My doctor had me switch my son to soy when he was a few months old because he was gassy and we wanted to see if maybe he was lactose intolerant.  The day I introduced a small amount of soy he stopped up and then he was crying because of constipation.  I had only given him maybe one bottle (mixed with the regular formula) and so I just stopped giving him the soy all together.  Then, not long after, I did some research and found out about the estrogen.  They tell us Americans how healthy soy is but what they don't tell you is that there is a natural estrogen hormone in soy.  From my research, even people in the Orient, where the stuff is GROWN don't give it to their young children.  I'd stay away from it completely unless your baby is lactose intolerant and even then, there are alternatives to soy.  Maybe it's just gas, like with my son.  Some babies just fart a lot lol....like father, like son was my conclusion.

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Soy formula is not recommended, especially for boys because of the high estrogen content.  I know Similac has several varieties for lactose intolerance or gas.  We switched to Nutramigen due to colicy symptoms, but is very expensive.  Watch the vaccines too, maybe spread them out more because of the autism risk - again more prevalent in boys.

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Natasha - posted on 02/05/2009

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i would have asked the dr before i switched formulas... but transitioning slowly is always the best thing to do. i had to switch formulas for one of my kids and the dr actually gave me a guide on how to do it from day to day.



good luck!

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What does the soy do to boys???






Here is a link to an article about soy formula and estrogen.  It was published in 2006.



 



http://www.westonaprice.org/brochures/So...



 



There are only a few conditions in which a baby should be on soy: cow's milk protein allergy, lactose intolerance, vegetarian families and a few others.  I just worry about all the chemicals that get put into foods, foods that are supposed to be safe.  I know that every little boy has a certain level of estrogen in him, just as girls have a certain level of testosterone.  But I don't see the reason to up that level unless absolutely necessary, especially since NONE of the articles can show studies of the long term effects.  Personally, that scares me. 



The best thing we, as mothers, can do is to be informed and to ask questions.  I went to the health department through out my pregnancy and so far, it's where I take my son for his check-ups.  At first, I think it kinda shocked and surprised the doctors and nurses when I would walk into the office and pull out my list of questions.  I got the impression that most women just come in and soak up what they say without question. 

Sara - posted on 02/05/2009

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My older boy was on Gentlease and then we switched to soy gradually and you need to also remember that it takes at least 2 full weeks for your babies body to get used to the change. My new baby is also 11 weeks old and we are dealing with colic so I understand your concern and we just got shots as well.

Keep your head up and you should see some results soon! Sara

Shawn - posted on 02/05/2009

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I would switch back right away!  My dr told me that soy has been known to conctipate children.  My son started on enfimil lipil then went to gentlease, to prosoby, then to neutramigine.  The nurses will tell you to stay on the new formula for 2 weeks.  But you know your baby better then they do!  If he was on gentlease sunday it should not make a difference!  To ease your concerns call the doctors office over and over until you get an answer you feel good about!!!! 



 



Good luck!!!!!!!!!!!

Emily - posted on 02/05/2009

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My daughter had a lot of formula trouble too. We switched to Enfamil Prosobe and it works great. She also had trouble with bowel movements at first. The doctor told me to put a teaspoon of dark Karo syrup in every bottle and do one ounce of room temperture water every day for a week. We actually had to do two weeks but it worked and she is just fine now. You may just have to play around with different formulas until you find the right one. The Karo has been a life savor! I hope this helps.

Elizabeth - posted on 02/05/2009

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Soy formula severly constipated my young son for quite a while. He had such trouble trying to go to the bathroom, that he started retaining the stool. This caused a bigger problem, for then his bowel got used to holding alot of stool, and he wasn't able to feel when he had to go. We had to go to the doctor many times to get the problem worked out. It was very distressing for him. I'm not a doctor, but I don't reccomend soy to any baby that doesn't absoutly have to be on it!!

Shawna - posted on 02/05/2009

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My first son was bottle fed and i started him on simalac and my gosh did he ever vomit, he would vomit almost the whole feeding. This went on for a few days and then finally i called my nurse and she suggested nestle goodstart. My son tolerated it very well. Its also cheaper too :)

Kelly - posted on 02/05/2009

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I would stick with the gentlease and just use gas drops for him. My first son was on soy and the PP is right the stool is more firm with soy.

good luck hope baby feels better!

User - posted on 02/05/2009

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thank you everyone for your replies



 



i switched to soy from gentlease because i thought he was too gassy. however, i think he is more uncomfortable with the soy.

Kim - posted on 02/05/2009

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Kari,

I'm a nurse and I also have a 3 month old on a soy based formula. I just wanted to let you know that soy based formulas often make their stools firmer and more terd like. I was concerned initially because she looked like she was having a rabbit terds, but 2 different pediatricians have assured me that because of the soy her stools will be firmer. If you think that he is straining you can give him some karo syrup.

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Fussiness and spitting up can be caused by all kinds of things.  If he has been on infamil for 11 weeks without a problem then I'm guessing that's not what's causing either.  Unless these symptoms have been there all along.  I would say to switch back and try ruling out other possible reasons for fussiness and spitting up.

Jolene - posted on 02/05/2009

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His body just might be more sensitive right now because he did just have some vaccinations. I would go back to the gentlease for now and wait a bit before you try again.

Dana - posted on 02/05/2009

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When you are going to switch your baby off of something be sure to transition the change slowly or else he may not take to the new item as well. I say keep him on the infamil, and make sure the bottle you are using is one that elminates the gas and bubbles. And keep some infant Gas-X handy.

Marie - posted on 02/05/2009

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I would switch back, and not slowly, but right away... the better for his system to get the other stuff out of his body. An eleven week old should not have hard stool, it's not normal and def something going on. Soy is a good alternative for allergies to dairy, but it can not always be the best... there has been a controversy on it for a long time now.

April - posted on 02/05/2009

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usually the dr's recommend a slow transition especially since your baby has been on it for a number of weeks. good luck. we used nestle good start which worked well for our baby who had problems with fussiness and constipation on similac

Kelly - posted on 02/05/2009

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You should do the transition slower if he is having problems with his bowel movements. When I switched my boys around on formula I just switched and they were fine. But all babies are different.



Just curious why you switched from the gentlease to soy?

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