my 4m old baby will not sleep though the night he wakes up after 5-6 hours then every 2 but now its getting worse now his 5 hour sleeps are every 2 hours the only thing that works is nursing him iv tryed everything rocking singing soother changing white noise keeping the room dark keeping the room light tonight ill try putting my shirt in his crib any other ideas

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Amanda - posted on 11/22/2008

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I would say that your baby is waking because he is use to you putting him to sleep, so when he stirs in the night he is alarmed because you aren't there. It is fine for you to put your baby to sleep however you like but you must be prepared to do the same thing each time he stirs. I believe completely in teaching babies to self soothe. I have 2 children and have done the following with both. The oldest only woke once in 12 hours til 12 months old, the second has slept 12 hours straight since 4 months.

You need to put your baby to bed when he is tired, not over tired, drowsy but not asleep. He will cry, but you will not let him 'cry it out', but you do need to leave him for a bit, maybe about 2-5 mins, whatever time you can handle. Then after the set time go in and comfort, it is best if he stays in his bed to do this, but if you prefer a cuddle is fine. Stay for about a minute, til he has settled but is not asleep, lay back in bed and leave, he will cry but do the same, waiting the time and then comforting. After about 30 mins you can give him a drink, either of water, or if breastfed you can offer a top up. They put back into bed awake and repeat. Most babies take between 40 mins and an hour to go to sleep the first time, but the time will get significantly less and less each time he goes to sleep by himself. You have to be consistent or it will not work. If he wakes under 1 1/2 hours in the day you should attempt to resettle using the same technique, but after 30min get him up. In the night I would say that if he wakes under 4-5 hours in the night you should resettle. To begin with you will get less sleep, but I guarantee that after about a week he will only be waking once in a 12 hour period. Goodluck and I hope this helps. The key to this technique is consitency if you are not consistent it will not work, he will just be confussed!!

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Alicia - posted on 11/25/2008

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hi there, Kayli is now 4months old, she is on novalac sd (sweet dreams) it helps for them to sleep and stay full for longer, nopt sure where you will get it from will have to look for it on the net, as iam in sa.

User - posted on 11/24/2008

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My first 3 children slept through the night at 4-5 weeks. I started giving them a little cereal at night before bed. After about a week they would sleep 12 hours. I also had them sleeping on their stomachs. This was the only way they would sleep. My last one didn't sleep through the night until 10 weeks. She also had some spitting up issues. We changed her bottles and her formula and finally found one that would work. She then started to eat her cereal and I welcomed the 12 hours of sleep at one time. My doctor said the cereal was fine since my 3 oldest ones were large babies.

User - posted on 11/23/2008

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when I first came home from the hospital with my daughter, who is now 4 months old she would wake up every 45 min...which was hard. Of course in the hospital she slept which I think it was cause her bed was on an angle but my friend who has 7 children 17 yrs old to 3 years old said they all were colic she put them on their side when they went to bed ....at the hosptial the nurses were like no the baby has to be on their back, I double check with my doctor and she said it was ok for her to be on her side ...I tried it with the pillow thing so she wouldnt roll and she slept for the first time for 4 hours ...The t-shirt thing also helps as they can smell your sent. I also use this little bumble bee my friend gave me for her which she hugs and it also keeps her pacifier in her mouth and she sleeps for 8-10 hours ....good luck

User - posted on 11/22/2008

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Our pediatrician recommended a book, 12 Hours By 12 Weeks. It was tough to do (on us), but it worked for our daughter and the book is very short with the limited time you have to read. Needless to say our daughter wasn't sleeping through the night at 12 weeks old but she was by 5 months and still is at 12 months so the overall approach seemed to work pretty well. I would definitely recommend it.

Sara - posted on 11/22/2008

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a lot of kids go through some big changes around 4 months, growth spurt, developmentally, etc. a lot of infants wake more frequently at night when a lot is changing or they are learning a new skill, so food may not help, your babes may just need the comfort of knowing mom is there. remember, too, that teething can start for some babies around 4 months, even if a tooth doesn't show for several months. the teething phenomenon lasts until about 18 months off and on and that can seriously disrupt sleep in a previously good sleeper.



if baby was sleeping 5+ hours at a stretch, you'll get back there, so don't panic. hunker down and take care of yourself, rest during the day as much as you can, eat well and hang in there. you're certainly not doing anything wrong by nursing baby so you can all get back to sleep.

sara

Rebecca - posted on 11/22/2008

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My daughter did the same thing at 4 months. She was up every 2 hours and I was feeding her solids. My doctor said that it was a growth supurt and it would pass. I did not find this helpful considering my daughter was sleeping threw the night since she was about a month old. The only thing I could do to make her sleep threw the night was to swaddle her and then put her to sleep in the breastfeeding pillow. It held so she thought that that was me there with her. When the growth spurt was over I slowly got her back to sleeping just in her bed. Now its a trick I use when she is sick, teething. It works like a charm. Hope this helps.

Beth - posted on 11/22/2008

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I've seen it mentioned here already, but the 'no cry sleep solution' is fantastic!

I have to admit that both my kids are great sleepers. Both slept through the nigh around 2 months (both had big feeding issues at 3-4 months which disturbed their sleep, but then went on to sleep 10-12hr. But this is NOT the norm. I don't know if I was lucky or if it had to do with the above book, which we implemented straight away. I also have the advantage of having a number of child health nurses at my disposal at work.

What you should try though is a dream feed. If my son (6months) doesn't feed enough during the day he wakes at night. To stop him waking, if I know he hasn't feed enough I dream feed him. This is where you pick them up, feed them and put them back to bed while they remain basically asleep. It works best with a bottle (but my boobs never really worked well anyway). Don't change them or they will wake up. The time of the feed really depends on when they go down for the night. Usually you do it around 9:30-10:00. If you use a bottle, you could go to sleep and let your partner do it if he's awake. Then you'll get more rest.

Good luck

Elizabeth - posted on 11/22/2008

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I recommend trying a little cereal in his bottle. In fact, when my son was 4 months old...I never let him go to bed without out it or else I would be up once a night at 2 am. You need to decide how you want him to go to bed. One way every night and he will begin to anticipate bedtime and know the routine.

Also, if he wakes up...let him cry. I know you probably want to crawl out of your skin when that happens, but neither one of you are getting any sleep that way. Just do what I do...turn to your husband and say, "This is all your fault." Then you'll feel a million times better:)

Keely - posted on 11/22/2008

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I had that same problem but i was getting up about 11times on an average night or he would sleep an hour and then wake up we tryed the all the same things but the 1 thing that worked was putting him in his half sisters room (when shes not here) and in a travel cot he goes thru the nite no problem we had to put him in there at bout 6 months old so not much older.hope that helps a little xxx

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My first daughter didn't sleep through the night until she was 8 months old and I was a very tired mom!! Then I read the book "On becoming Babywise" by Gary Ezzo (?) and after my second one, I did sleep training and she starting sleeping through the night at 3 months. The first night there was some crying as I tried to let her settle down on her own, and by the second night, I fed her, put her in her crib and she cried for less than a minute and then she slept until morning... It was very hard for me to do and I felt like a horrible mother when I didn't run into her room the minute she started crying. However, getting adequate sleep is so important for their growth and health-- and being a rested mom is a pretty great thing too! (Please note, I was breastfeeding at the time, and did not need to supplement her diet with formula or baby cereal.)

Best of luck!

Kerrie - posted on 11/21/2008

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My 4 mth old was doing the same, so I started to feed him solids, now he sleeps for a minimum of 8 hours, last night 10hrs and 45 minutes... I think my son was just starving hungry and the bottle just wasn't enough for him... He is able to eat from a spoon, but if you don't feel comfy doing that just make it very smooth and it will go through a large teet. Sometimes you have to do what is right for you, not the midwives and all the critics out there whom say don't give the baby solids til they are 6 mths... IF IT FEELS RIGHT DO IT...Hope this helps...Good luck...

Candy - posted on 11/21/2008

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If he does use a bottle sometimes try the Dr. Browns. They even have nipples that have different sized holes. I could get the number 3 and put some rice cereal in them just fine.

User - posted on 11/21/2008

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this was happening with my daughter at 5 months and I continued to take her out of bed because my children share a room and I didn't want to wake the two year old, but i realized that while i was producing enough breastmilk to feed her through the day and pump i was out by the evening...i didn't figure it out for w few weeks and then finally it hit me...once i gave her a bottle and started her on infant cereal she was way better and now she is six months and sleeping so long i have to wake her to get to work on time...so maybe while you are nursing in the night the baby may not be getting enough...good luck

Adina - posted on 11/21/2008

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Sounds like you're having fun ;) I remember those days. Baby could be going through a growth spirt. Other possibilities are that maybe you ate or drank something that didn't agree with the baby. I ate one chocolate donut while I was nursing my first baby and it upset her system. Another time my husband and i took her on a mini vacation. Without thinking about it I took a dristan for a stuffie nose....and for a long while i couldn't understand why she didn't want to sleep that whole night.. One other thing you might try is burping the baby more frequently. My first baby didn't get burped her first two days because I thought breastfed babies didn't need to be burped. Boy was I wrong, It wasn't until I got home with her that she got really crankie, I'll never forget my mom asking me how often i was burping her, and how surprised I was to discover she had to be burped at all. Oh, and if all else fails, and you really need some sleep...a little pancake syrup (forgive my spelling) on the end of a passifier....I'm sure their are many who will disagree with this suggestion, but there are times when the risk of being a horrible mom for giving your baby sugar outways the risk of missing one too many nights sleep.

Becky - posted on 11/21/2008

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my daughter was the same way. honestly i ended up putting her in the bed with me b/c it was easier in the middle of the night. is your baby teething? does he have an ear infection? if he is teething, the highland's teething tablets worked great for my daughter. also he may be just getting hungry, it helped if i cluster fed a couple of hours before it was bed time. just in case you don't know what cluster feeding is, it's when you feed him 3-4 times a couple of hours before bedtime. it has worked for alot of my friends but unfortunately not for me :( my daughter was just a night time nurser, she did grow out of it though. good luck!

Jennifer - posted on 11/21/2008

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My pediatrician encouraged me to work with my baby to eat well and stay awake during the day...and that doing that would help her sleep at night. I found that not allowing her to go more than 3 hours between feedings during the day (waking her up, if need be), helped her go longer between feedings at night.

I so sympathize with you trying "everything"...I have done that too! You might try sticking with one thing for several days and nights, and keeping a journal. I started keeping one of when she ate, slept and was awake and it REALLY helped me see patterns and then to make changes accordingly.

You might not have the eye focus, time or attention for reading, but I found "Healthy Sleep Habits, Happy Baby" to be a great resource for understanding a babies' need for sleep. I did not agree with everything he said, but the foundational ideas were so helpful in my experience.

Niprib - posted on 11/21/2008

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My son is five months and he does the same thing. Some nights he'll sleep longer, others he is up every two hours. Your baby may be going through a growth spurt and just needs to eat more often for a few days. I noticed this with both of my kids. I think what you are experiencing is probobly normal. Every child is different, my daughter didn't start sleeping through the night until she was close to 10 months old. I think every child is different. If you are having lack of sleep, ask your husband if would try a bottle a couple of times in the night, so that you aren't up every two hours. I nurse exclusively and so that means I don't have much of a choice, I have to get up when he's up. Just remember, it will pass.

Emily - posted on 11/21/2008

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When did you introduce the rice cereal? Was it anywhere near when he started sleeping less? Often, if babies are not ready for cereals they can cause horrible constipation which would contribute to night wakings. You could try holding off on the cereal for a week or so and see what happens.

User - posted on 11/21/2008

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ok ill try anything but he sees me and crys even more i no he wants me to pick him up & nurse him but ill try to resited thanx 4 ur help

Emily - posted on 11/21/2008

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Read the "No-Cry Sleep Solution" by Elizabeth Pantley. Also, 5-6 hours is officially considered sleeping through the night. He could also be teething, going through a growth spurt or not be feeling well (ear aches, etc.). For teething you can try putting some clove oil (diluted in something like olive oil) or Baby Orajel on his gums before you nurse him back to sleep. If it was his gums bothering him that should help him sleep longer stretches. For a growth spurt, you just have to be patient and wait for him to grow out of it.

You could also try co-sleeping for part of the night. Like, after his first 5 hour stretch bring him to bed with you and nurse lying down. You'll get more sleep and may not even notice if he wakes up more often after that.

One other thing I noticed with baby #3. She slept 7 hours by 5 months, but it didn't feel like that to me, because I was going to bed too late. She'd sleep from 7pm to 2am... but I'm a night owl and wouldn't go to sleep until midnight... so she'd wake up just as I was getting into a deep sleep. Now she's 11 months and we've adjusted routines a bit. She goes to bed at 8:30, I go to bed at 10pm and she doesn't wake up until 4:30am, so I get a good 6 hours of sleep myself before she wakes. :)

User - posted on 11/21/2008

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yep he gets rice every night at 730 then i top him off with a bottle puts him to sleep like a charm he just wont stay a sleep thanx though

User - posted on 11/21/2008

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i had the same trouble with my first baby (now 3), i did the same as u, tried rocking her back to sleep ect and she kept waking up every coupl of hours...but the reason they keep waking up is because you (and me) are teaching him that he needs u there to fall asleep. As hard as it WILL be , u have to not get him out of his bed when he wakes up. If u know he isnt hungry ( if it has only been 2 or 3 hours since his last feed) then just pat him back to sleep..u will have a sore back..trust me..but after a night or 2 he will learn that he can go back to sleep without ur help. It really is important that u try it soon otherwise u will make the same mistake as i did , i was still rocking my 7 month old back to sleep 4 or 5 times a night b4 someone told me what i was doing wrong and by that time had to do controlled crying to teach him the right way to go to sleep...now THAT was hard !! Good luck and hang in there

Jamie - posted on 11/21/2008

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Does your baby eat from a bottle yet? When my daughter was that age my doctor recommended putting some rice cereal in his formula~ just a little big, a spoonful for every big scoop of formula I think. You have to cut a little X in the nipple for it to come out, but we did that and it worked like a CHARM. She slept all night, and it was totally healthy. You can buy it at walmart or wherever near the formula. In comes in different phases, like infant, toddler, etc, and it has directions on back. I would definitely recommend it to anyone! Hope this helps!

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