rice cereal not working

Krissy - posted on 02/08/2009 ( 32 moms have responded )

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my 4 month old has just started the rice cereal. she is doing 1 TBL twice a day. the dr. told us to start her on it because she never seems to be satisfied with just a bottle. it's still not working. she is still hungry like an hour later! help!

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Angie - posted on 02/08/2009

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I have to agree with another mom who suggested that you call your doctor. I checked the American Academy of Pediatrics website and they suggest starting solid foods 4 to 6 months. I had always heard to wait until 6 months too but I was wrong. They also still suggest starting with rice cereal because it is so easy to digest. I couldn't find anything on their website about "torn gut". I also found that the AAP suggests rice cereal in the bottles of babies with GERD or acid reflux. I think that attacking each other is such a bad thing, I am shocked at the tone so many of these e-mails. Please ladies, let's remember that things change over time as new research comes out.

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Nellie - posted on 02/08/2009

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boil like 2 table spoons in 2 cups of water, don't add nothing. when the rice is cooked separate it from water. use the water when making her bottle. If you want you can start half rice water and half normal water just to see how she responds. then you can gradually use just rice water. I used this with all my 5 kids even when they were sick and didn't want to eat, or when diarreah. there is a lot of nutrients besides making them feel fuller. hope that helps. Nellie

Rachel - posted on 02/08/2009

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I have to say that posting in this thread was my first experience of interacting with anyone in the 'Circle of Moms' and I am horrified. As moms we should be rallying around each other and offering support. We've lost the ability to find that support in our physical communities and these forums should be a place to find it again. Instead, what do we have here? Judgment? Fear mongering? Guilting? Shaming? I am disgusted and I am out of here for good. This is not the kind of community that I want to be associated with.

Gelaine - posted on 02/08/2009

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Rice cereal tears up babies intestines, and should not be on the market for children so young. If you want to give her solids, do it with oatmeal, and NOT RICE cereal.

Megan - posted on 02/08/2009

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Four months is the old recommendation, which is why some doctors who aren't up to date will tell you it's okay. The thought that people still feed solids before that blows my mind. Don't people do research before hand? We are lucky enough to have all the info today that our parents, and our parent's parents didn't have. There is a reason to why they give you a time line. It's been proven that waiting longer decreases risks for allergies, obesity, etc, etc.. To say "we were all fed early, and we're fine" is absolutely ridiculous. That is like saying "We didn't have to be put in car seats and we survived, so it shouldn't be mandatory now". You might be fine, I might be fine, others might be fine.. but there ARE people who suffer from problems because they were fed solids too early. Why risk it? Both AAP, and WHO say six months.

I also don't get the point in the rush? If it's possible that delaying solids gives your child health advantages, isn't that what you'd prefer? Babies wake up in the night, babies get hungry and go through growth spurts, that is life. Don't put them at risk because you want a better nights sleep, or to save a couple bucks on formula (not implying anyone in this thread is, btw)

With that said, I agree 100% with everything Faerie has posted.

Valerie - posted on 02/08/2009

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Quoting Ashley:

my daughter is 6 weeks and i give her single grain rice cereal.... as to the woman who said that babies should not have it at 4 months... it is up to your baby... if she/he is ready for it they will let you know... like they say... not all babies are the same. your little one might be ready for stage one baby food.
i know when my brother was a baby at 4 months old formula just wasn't doing it for him either so my mom gave him solids and cow's milk and he was happy after that. but if you ever give your baby cow's milk before she s one make sure you get the supplement drops that you have to put in it... anyways good luck... and your little girl is too cute


Just curious, Why are you giving solids at 6 weeks? If she's nursing or getting formula, that should be adequate nutrition. Did your doctor tell you to?

Estha - posted on 02/08/2009

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I would give her more at her feedings.  She'll let you know when she's full.  Rice cereal caused constipation in my oldest so I gave my youngest one mixed and had no problems.

Tamara - posted on 02/08/2009

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Quoting Ashley:

my daughter is 6 weeks and i give her single grain rice cereal.... as to the woman who said that babies should not have it at 4 months... it is up to your baby... if she/he is ready for it they will let you know... like they say... not all babies are the same. your little one might be ready for stage one baby food.
i know when my brother was a baby at 4 months old formula just wasn't doing it for him either so my mom gave him solids and cow's milk and he was happy after that. but if you ever give your baby cow's milk before she s one make sure you get the supplement drops that you have to put in it... anyways good luck... and your little girl is too cute


im all for knowing the signs that your baby is ready for solids, and i have no problem with mums who wish to feed their children at 4 months..



 



sorry if this is harsh, and no offense intended..



but 6 weeks? that is little over a month old. how could your baby show any signs of wanting solid food at that age? it would be intersting to know what she did to show  you  this..cuz i really cant imagine how she could



and besides that point.. her tummy will not be ready to handle solid food. especially not cereals it could seriously have an effect on her insides.

Natalie - posted on 02/08/2009

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BTW, they are some solids that should not be introduced until a certain age and for good reason. Just because someone's child didn't have a problem doesn't mean everyone's won't.

Estha - posted on 02/08/2009

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I would give her more at her feedings.  She'll let you know when she's full.  Rice cereal caused constipation in my oldest so I gave my youngest one mixed and had no problems.

Natalie - posted on 02/08/2009

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If you're concerned about her being too hungry, ask your doctor what to do. You are just going to get a whole bunch of opinions on here. It's pretty much the same as typing it in on Google. I don't mean to undermine what help a community of Moms can be but everyone is told something different about introducing solids and what is right. If you trust your doctor (and I hope you do), they should be able to help.

Tamara - posted on 02/08/2009

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there is no reason you cant start feeding your baby solids at 4 mths... it was ok for god knows how many years before now, and my 4yr old son is fine after starting at 4mths but i only started him on fruit and veg. not jar stuff or cereals .
as long as you dont over do it, and feed her foods which are easy to digest she will be fine. cereals are a bit hard to digest so i would suggest feeding her some pureed fruits and vegetables. you can even sieve them too to make them easier for your little one to swallow and digest.
you can also freeze them in ice cube trays and pop them in a freezer bag. try with one and then when she is ready.. increase by 1 cube at a time. jake used to love carrot and mango :)

overall you know what is best for your child. start solids when you think she needs them. etc.
i did and my son has had no problems with weight or anything else at all

Tonya - posted on 02/08/2009

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well my 5 month old eats about a half of coffee cup full, a couple of spoonfulls wouldnt even cut it here. Shes probley needs more. Add a little fruit if she wont eat it applesauce or peaches make it taste better!

Louise - posted on 02/08/2009

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hi, is your daughter breast fed? if not is she taking hungry baby formula? we gave baby rice after milk feeds and also started mashed banana, ours took more rice than you are offering, she will eat more if she wants it.



 



good luck

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Six weeks on rice cereal? I'm sorry if you think this is harsh, but although 4 months (against research) is pretty stupid, six weeks is just asking for problems.



Why on earth would you give your baby cereal at six weeks? What signs could she possibly be giving you that she is 'ready' for solid food.



Research "open gut".

Tric - posted on 02/08/2009

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Having read all the above comments I'd have to agree with Kat, I have 16 week old twin girls and they've been ready for the next stage for quite some time. But because they were born at 34 weeks I've held back and given them more milk when they've demanded it. Some feeds they can take 8oz. And they've had trouble with the reflux which is another reason for holding back. We will be seeing our health visitor next week so will talk to her about it then, as she indicated on her last visit that because they were born premature they would be ready for weaning at 4 months. So next week we will start with the baby rice just to fill them up more. But I do agree with Kat's comments about scare tactics, it's not good and leaves a lot of mums confused, myself included. Just do what YOU feel is right for your baby. Nobody knows her better than yourself. xx

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I dont know who these doctors are that have advised not to give baby rice at 4 months old, i think they are the ones who need to be struck off. Baby rice is bland and is used as mainly a thickener to add bulk to their meals of milk whether it be formula or breast milk. It is absolutely safe to give it at 4 months and actually can be given earlier if babies have things such as reflux. 



It really annoys me that mums come on here and put the fear of god into women who are asking questions. I agree with Megan, just increase the amount slightly hun, if she seems dissatisfied then maybe try her with cereal. 



And i shouldn't worry about the scare tactics either, if a baby is meant to get allergies they will get them, its ridiculous to say that its due to early weaning, and it is never stated, it has been merely suggested, and in anyone i have spoken to's experience it doesn't make any difference. The same as if you're OCD with cleaning 4 times a day, baby needs some base on which to sustain its immune system. Being uber clean or uber obsessed with allergies etc, you will wind up going insane yourself and probably your kids too, along with them being susceptible to all number of things! 



Do what you feel is good hun, and yeah i'd go with Megan (Comment 1) and try increasing the amount, just gotta give it a go.



Best wishes, Another 4 month baby weaner!!!  xox

Ashley - posted on 02/08/2009

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my daughter is 6 weeks and i give her single grain rice cereal.... as to the woman who said that babies should not have it at 4 months... it is up to your baby... if she/he is ready for it they will let you know... like they say... not all babies are the same. your little one might be ready for stage one baby food.
i know when my brother was a baby at 4 months old formula just wasn't doing it for him either so my mom gave him solids and cow's milk and he was happy after that. but if you ever give your baby cow's milk before she s one make sure you get the supplement drops that you have to put in it... anyways good luck... and your little girl is too cute

User - posted on 02/08/2009

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My son couldn't handle any cereal before a year !  My sister-in-law mixed the rice cereal into the formula bottle (ya i know it says not to ).. it was the only way her son would be satisfied...  my sister gave her son 2 table spoons every night before going to bed (he was 5months), he slept all night... my other sis feed bottles of formula ever 3 hours (like 8oz) at 5 months.. i think you should try a bit more of the formula, and cereal.. watch out for constipation.. or a rash.. some signs there system can't handle it!  Don't worry to much though babies scedules are always changing! 

Patti - posted on 02/08/2009

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My 4 month old daughter (now 9 months) wouldn't take the rice cereal either, but we tried the single grain oatmeal and she loved it. Our doctor said either was ok. Gerber makes a banana flavored one and that's what she liked the best. Good luck!

Rachel - posted on 02/08/2009

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Quoting Melissa:



Quoting Faerie:




She is a baby, babies get hungry. Give her more milk.








Rice cereal has NO nutritional value at all, not to mention all the health risks you are exposing your daughter to.








4 months is the BIG growth spurt, which is often mistaken for a need to introduce solids.








Any dr that recommends rice cereal to the parents of a 4 month old baby ought  to be struck off.










I agree...rice cereal is not the answer to a baby who's hungry, more milk is.  Cereal doesn't quell a baby's hunger anymore than milk would and introducing it before 6 months (I've been told by a number of doctora, as I have premature twins) can lead to a host of issues later on!





There are actually a lot of factors to consider here, and saying 'rice cereal is not the answer' is not necessarily true...every baby is different and you can't always follow what the textbooks say.  I notice that you say 'she never seems to be satisfied with just a bottle'.  Based on that, I'm making an assumption that you are feeding your baby formula.  Studies show that formual fed babies often need 'real' food in addition to formula more quickly than breastfed babied need 'real' food and that it usually starts around 4-5 months instead of 6 months.  If your baby can hold their own head up, is wanting a bottle every 2 hours and still seems unsatisfied, seems interested in food and you have your own doctor's approval then feeding her food in addition to the bottles is just fine.



The LaLeche League and Lamaze both recommend sweet potatoes and avocados as first foods, so you could also try adding those.  Steam and mash sweet potatoes (or buy the jarred kind).  Mash well ripened avocados and feed raw either on their own or mixed into the cereal or sweet potatoes.  Sweet potatoes are full of vitamins and minerals as are avocados which are also packed with healthy fats.



And while commercial rice cereals that are made from white rice have no nutritional value and often only causes constipation, a brown rice cereal is packed with lots of healthy vitamins and minerals too (some references will note concern about the fiber content, proposing that babies will become full before they reach their nutritional needs, but this isn't proven and babies in most other countries eat whole grains successfully).  Try the one from My Organic Baby, which you can usually find in the organic section of the grocery store - my daughter loved it!  If the rice cereal doesn't work out, you can also safely try baby oatmeal (which is basically finely ground rolled oats).



We started our daughter on all of these foods at around the same age.  She sees a dietian because we are vegan to ensure she's getting all of the right fats and nutrients and the dietian was most impressed with all of these choices we made.  Good luck and happy eating!

Jackie - posted on 02/08/2009

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I agree with giving your baby more milk. Don't push the cereal if you feel it's not working...Also, cereal doesn't need to be baby's first food. Sweet potatoes or bananas are great too. My youngest didn't start solids until 7.5 months and she nursed every couple of hours or so until then. Even at 7 months she wasn't overly interested of satisfied by the solids, so we took it slow. My dr wanted me to start at 4 months!! I'm glad I didn't :)



 



Good luck  :o)

Melissa - posted on 02/08/2009

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I agree that rice cereal has benefits, definately nutritional as when my boys started we could take them off their iron supplements. What I was agree with is starting too early can lead to food allergies later on as well as number of other health issues. That's why it is now 6 months vs 4. 4 months is the old way of thinking, same as putting a baby to sleep on their tummies. As research progresses new information is discovered and relayed.

Laura - posted on 02/08/2009

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Our dr put my daughter on oatmeal and it fulfils her. or try giving her a little more

Shaunna - posted on 02/08/2009

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Maybe I am just clueless, but how is rice cereal bad for the baby?  It provides extra calories (energy for growing), potassium, iron (which I know can cause some bowel problems on occasion, if given too much iron), calcium -- good for those growing bones, not to mention other vitamins in addition to the ones that breastmilk or formula are giving.  How does that equate to NO nutritional value?  (Please note that I am not trying to argue, just understand your statement.)



(*Academy of Pediatrics recommends that the first solid food that should be introduced is rice cereal, also.)



My daughter went through the same growing period at four months, and it didn't matter how much milk she was getting, it wasn't enough.  It was only when we started introducing cereals that she felt satisfied.. after a few weeks of cereal, I started introducing veggies and then fruit.

Bobbi - posted on 02/08/2009

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ya 4 months is a little early, however my doctor wanted me start my daughter at 5 months as she is still feeding every 2 hours...which does not bother my. She is also disyplaying a huge interest in food. Most babies from my understanding hate the cereal. As did mine until I started adding a mashed banana to it. She loves it now. The rice cereal isnt for the nutritional value...that is still the breast milk at this point. It is to get them used to eating and different textures and is also something mild on there bellies. Rice cereal is also one of the least likely foods that a baby will have an allergic reaction too. if she is hungry feed her. The point of the cereal should not be to fill her up...they will not eat enough at this point to accomplish that...but is to begin training them on solids. I had the same hope that she would be full and want to sleep through the night and i wouldn't have to feed her as often. It has taken me the full 5 months not to question how often she eats but just to satisfy her needs....nothing to worry about mom if she wants to eat alot.....Good Luck!

Melissa - posted on 02/08/2009

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Quoting Faerie:



She is a baby, babies get hungry. Give her more milk.






Rice cereal has NO nutritional value at all, not to mention all the health risks you are exposing your daughter to.






4 months is the BIG growth spurt, which is often mistaken for a need to introduce solids.






Any dr that recommends rice cereal to the parents of a 4 month old baby ought  to be struck off.






I agree...rice cereal is not the answer to a baby who's hungry, more milk is.  Cereal doesn't quell a baby's hunger anymore than milk would and introducing it before 6 months (I've been told by a number of doctora, as I have premature twins) can lead to a host of issues later on!

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She is a baby, babies get hungry. Give her more milk.



Rice cereal has NO nutritional value at all, not to mention all the health risks you are exposing your daughter to.



4 months is the BIG growth spurt, which is often mistaken for a need to introduce solids.



Any dr that recommends rice cereal to the parents of a 4 month old baby ought  to be struck off.

Hannah - posted on 02/08/2009

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My little one - now a very healthy 2.5 year old didn't take to rice cereal, he had a variety of pureed steamed fruit and veg and was up to three meals a day within a couple of weeks - you will know when they are getting enough as they sleep through and are much calmer!

Megan - posted on 02/08/2009

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She is probably just going through a growth spurt. I would continue to offer her more bottles throughout the day,and/or increase the amount she has per eating . It'll pass :)

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